Pre game music

[aglock]

:mad: :mad: :mad:
What they hell is the athletic dept thinking when they play music that lyrics of "mother****er" (albeit it was half cut off) but you could still tell what it was.

my own son heard and said that was a bad word.

I asked around, becuase i did not hear it at first and was confirmed that the MotherF_ _ _ er was used.

That is totally wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Loftin]

Usually the kinds of music where you hear that word the most(metal and rap) are the same kinds of music that get people pumped for football. If it was edited, I don't see the problem.

[aglock]

It was not edited becuase it was still heard by everyone around me and then repeated by son to me!

Obviously to me by your reply Loftin you do not have kids.......

I have already sent emails to the athletic office and Gates

Energetic music is all fine and good, metal and rap but not Gangster rap!!

[NPLAggie07]

I couldn't tell if the word was cut out or not. But I agree..kids are at the games and I think they should think about what music is being played.

[Dustin00whoop]

Gansta rap is okay too, they just need to completely edit out the whole "moter****er" & not just leave it at "motherF____r"

[aglock]

No, sorry dustin........Gangsta Rap is not okay too......

There is to much other music out there in metal and rap. Though personnaly I prefer the Metal (AC/DC, Areosmith).

Heck in even the 75 and 60 year olds behind me like it!!!

[Loftin]

Define "gangsta" rap.

I really can't see our players getting pumped up to Will Smith or MC Hammer.

[KCAggie]

Why should players need music to get pumped up. Besides, isn't that what locker rooms are for. If the players can't get pumped up from our fight song and the crowd behind them, then they should be on the bench.

[Dustin00whoop]

No, sorry dustin........Gangsta Rap is not okay too......

There is to much other music out there in metal and rap. Though personnaly I prefer the Metal (AC/DC, Areosmith).

Heck in even the 75 and 60 year olds behind me like it!!!

What is wrong with gansta rap if there isn't any cussing in it?

[aglock]

RAp songs that degrade women;
use the n-word allot and curse;
is basically gangsta rap.

[aglock]

Becuase you would have to edit the entire song and probably would not sound all that great. ANSWER IS: don't play music that has curse words in it period......

[TwelfthAG]

Ha, that's never going to happen. It's a different generation, one that needs that kind of music to get pumped up for a game.

[Dustin00whoop]

Becuase you would have to edit the entire song and probably would not sound all that great. ANSWER IS: don't play music that has curse words in it period......

I don't think the Beatles are going to do a lot of good to provide energy for the team. There isn't a whole lot of music out there that doesn't have cussing in it. Rap is played on the radio all the time. Obviously, that music is edited. Some times they even go as far as to rewrite some of the lyrics to make it radio safe. I don't have a problem with that. If its clean enough for the radio its clean enough for Kyle.

[Superaggie79]

leave Your Kids At Home! They Annoy Me

[KCAggie]

leave Your Kids At Home! They Annoy Me

No, they are future aggies, we need them at the game to experience what kyle field is like.

[Foot Wedge]

I'm with lock on this. Songs that need editing need to be edited out of the door. Show a little respect for people who find today's "music" classless and offensive.

B.C.

[Superaggie79]

No, they are future aggies, we need them at the game to experience what kyle field is like.
Don't be like that chick on texags that talked about her kids going to A&M and then they didn't get in. That was funny as hell. She kept saying "he's an aggie anyways" WRONG!

[Superaggie79]

I'm with lock on this. Songs that need editing need to be edited out of the door. Show a little respect for people who find today's "music" classless and offensive.

B.C.
Catch up to today.

[Foot Wedge]

If being offensive and having no class means I need to catch up, I'll just stay behind.

Thanks anyway,

B.C.

[Dustin00whoop]

Don't be like that chick on texags that talked about her kids going to A&M and then they didn't get in. That was funny as hell. She kept saying "he's an aggie anyways" WRONG!

I can guarantee he is more of an Aggie than you.

[Superaggie79]

You don't even know me. I was one of the most active student leaders on campus the past several years. I've never missed a game and been to almost every yell practice. You people need to learn the difference in internet and reality.

[Vlyrock]

You don't even know me. I was one of the most active student leaders on campus the past several years. I've never missed a game and been to almost every yell practice. You people need to learn the difference in internet and reality.
Do me and the rest of us a favor, don't use Aggiefans.com as a venue for you to express your "fake internet" personality where you can belittle posters and post random pointless posts and comebacks.

I started the site with the intention of making it one of the best forums out there where people from all view points can discuss sports and other topics -- not a site for immature people to build up an internet persona intended to offend and piss people off. The name SuperAggie79 should be an extension of you and your thoughts, not your polar opposite where you can live out a fantasy of doing all the stuff you can't do in real life.

[KCAggie]

Too funny!

[Dustin00whoop]

Man, I add the dude to my ignore list & still can't get away from him.

[PinetarAg]

I remember sitting at the game last night thinking "good, they edited it", not "why do they have to playing a song that needs to be edited". I don't see a problem with play a song AS LONG as it is edited in public forum.

[KCAggie]

I am impartial but I don't have kids either.

[BOOZINB85]

Do me and the rest of us a favor, don't use Aggiefans.com as a venue for you to express your "fake internet" personality where you can belittle posters and post random pointless posts and comebacks.

I started the site with the intention of making it one of the best forums out there where people from all view points can discuss sports and other topics -- not a site for immature people to build up an internet persona intended to offend and piss people off. The name SuperAggie79 should be an extension of you and your thoughts, not your polar opposite where you can live out a fantasy of doing all the stuff you can't do in real life.

http://bh.knu.ac.kr/~sdsong/images/Atomic%20Bomb.gif

[Superaggie79]

Man, I add the dude to my ignore list & still can't get away from him.
I thought we were tight. :(

[Gig em12]

You don't even know me. I was one of the most active student leaders on campus the past several years. I've never missed a game and been to almost every yell practice. You people need to learn the difference in internet and reality.


I am totally on your side on this one vly... i truly can't stand this guy. You say your this big aggie supporter and a great student, yet all you do is try to get under fellow aggies' skin and just try to piss people off with your devil's advocate comments. What kind of aggie is all about being a jerk and incosiderate to other aggies?

[KCAggie]

maybe he's a techie in desguise

[macduff93]

I can guarantee he is more of an Aggie than you.


LMFAO, Dustin. :rep:

[Superaggie79]

y'all sure are quick to judge.

[Superaggie79]

Here's my real response. The world is changing and the student and culture on the Texas A&M campus is changing as well. People want things to stay the same. The school is built on traditions and on not changing. But with vision 20/20 it's obvious that the university is going a more progressive route. No longer will the student body be made up of people like me from a town of 1500 in the middle of the country that is just looking to get an education and work there way up in the world through hard work. Now we have people on the campus that are more worried about research and graduating cum laude than whether or not people are saying howdy or the ags are winning games. In the same way the athletic dept. has gone a more progressive route under the lead of Bill Byrne. And because of this you will see more and more things that might offend or bother some conservative types because they want to cater to the newer younger generation. They've already got all of the alums they're going to get when they graduate and most are going to stick around for life. Your kids can be sitting in their room and turn on a radio station that had the exact same song playing probably edited the exact same way. They probably know more about computers and the internet than you or I will ever imagine and they can be listening to anything there as well within a few minutes. You can't protect your kids forever and trying to keep them away from things like this is just going to make the transition into the real world that much harder. I'm sorry that you don't agree with how the world is changing but it's the truth and it's going to happen so you and everyone else will have to find some way to cope with how these things are changing. That's it.

[MDaggie09]

the fact that your kid was able to hear the word and repeated it to you is a sign that the music they choose to play should be better edited/ not played at all.. i know plenty of songs that get me pumped up that dont have any curse words in it... theres always another choice of song that they could choose to play to pump the crowd up. theres so many different songs that have that "energetic" feel to them that have the same effect... i know i curse, and im not going to ever say that i dont. but there is always a time when you should respect others and especially families

[Vlyrock]

For the most part, I agree. There are a lot of "pump up, energetic" songs that could be played that don't have swearing. Although, i know that the trend is to play the most popular songs that are hip and current. Those, will sometimes, have swearing in it. I think it's the responsibility of the Athletic Department or whatever place is playing it to make sure the words are appropriately edited so you don't know they are there unless you're familiar with the uncut song. :)

[Loftin]

I think that if the kid knew what the bad word was, even after it was edited, he must have already heard the word before. Therefore, the kid didn't hear anything he didn't already know, and the damage was done before he ever stepped foot in Kyle Field.

I'm not blaming the parents, either. It's the reality of today. Any kid who knows how to operate a remote control and who has cable at home has already heard every cuss word there is and seen sexually explicit scenes. Every kid who knows how to operate an FM radio has already heard a thousand songs with words edited out. I think this is a "non-issue," and very silly to get upset about.

[phatbc]

I think everyone makes valid points.

BUT, any music is fine if it gets our players pumped up and is edited properly. CASE CLOSED.

[BOOZINB85]

Why don't they play stuff like Lyle Lovett, Robert Earl King, Patriotic music. Rap is crap, and should not be played at a college football event, especially at a place like Kyle Field.

[polish]

Why don't they play stuff like Lyle Lovett, Robert Earl King, Patriotic music. Rap is crap, and should not be played at a college football event, especially at a place like Kyle Field.
Probably because of recruiting. While most people in Kyle would like it, recruits might not. People paying would rather a big bowl than good music, so they try to show those deciding if they should come, that A&M is not as backwoods as they think

[Pflugerville Ag]

Do me and the rest of us a favor, don't use Aggiefans.com as a venue for you to express your "fake internet" personality where you can belittle posters and post random pointless posts and comebacks.

I started the site with the intention of making it one of the best forums out there where people from all view points can discuss sports and other topics -- not a site for immature people to build up an internet persona intended to offend and piss people off. The name SuperAggie79 should be an extension of you and your thoughts, not your polar opposite where you can live out a fantasy of doing all the stuff you can't do in real life.

Well said Vly. :rep:

[Pflugerville Ag]

No matter what music they play, someone is not going to like it. If the players want rap music to get them fired up, then I am all for it. Just completely edit it.

I guess our basketball team is not allowed to play music during their warmups either?

[TexAg77]

With the money our atletic department has, why can't they get local artist, wether they are rap or whatever, to come up with some special music just for the Aggies?

[Pflugerville Ag]

They have done that in the past with Roger Creager. Its a cool one time thing for the fans, but doesn't do much for the players.

[Superaggie79]

With the money our atletic department has, why can't they get local artist, wether they are rap or whatever, to come up with some special music just for the Aggies?
That would be the cheesiest thing ever. Did you not see "rise up" or whatever it was? No Tellus is an artist maybe he could do something.

[TwelfthAG]

[no comment]

[Pflugerville Ag]

That would be the cheesiest thing ever. Did you not see "rise up" or whatever it was? No Tellus is an artist maybe he could do something.

If you think "Raise Up" was done by the athletic department, you are crazy. Just to set the record straight for about the 100th time on that video, it was done to be a funny skit for a local access TV show in B/CS. It was never done in seriousness. I know both guys that made the video. One happens to now the the youngest D1 NCAA head softball coach in the country and the other is a professional videographer in San Antonio.

[Superaggie79]

That is cheesy. And I don't think that's what he was talking about.

[Superaggie79]

If you think "Raise Up" was done by the athletic department, you are crazy. Just to set the record straight for about the 100th time on that video, it was done to be a funny skit for a local access TV show in B/CS. It was never done in seriousness. I know both guys that made the video. One happens to now the the youngest D1 NCAA head softball coach in the country and the other is a professional videographer in San Antonio.
I'm just saying that when lyrics are made for something like that they come off cheesy. Right now the background with the fan on the video and ribbonboards looks cheesy too.

[BOOZINB85]

Probably because of recruiting. While most people in Kyle would like it, recruits might not. People paying would rather a big bowl than good music, so they try to show those deciding if they should come, that A&M is not as backwoods as they think

Please explain how playing rap music with vulgar language in it is cosompolitan.

If we have to play that crap in order to recruit, i'd rather we have a crappy team with upstanding individuals playing not thug gangsta rap fans.

[Superaggie79]

But that doesn't bring in money which is what this is what it's all really about.

[aggieamy07]

Just because a person listens to rap/gangsta rap/whatever you call it doesn't mean they aren't upstanding individuals.

[Pflugerville Ag]

I'm white and like rap music. I have never been arrested or gotten in trouble. Am I not an upstanding person?

[Loftin]

Please explain how playing rap music with vulgar language in it is cosompolitan.

If we have to play that crap in order to recruit, i'd rather we have a crappy team with upstanding individuals playing not thug gangsta rap fans.

Odd, I rarely even notice the music when it's played at the stadium, yet I live and breath the success of Aggie Football. That's such a silly thing to dwell on. I, like everybody else, prefer certain types of music. However, I don't act offended when I hear something I don't like.

Most good kids these days listen to rap, just like the bad kids. That music is overwhelmingly popular with people my age. Listening to what's popular as a young man is NORMAL, and not an indication of lack of character. You may not know this, but "Wrecking Crew" was a term coined by one of our players. It was the name of a popular RAP GROUP at the time. Whether you like it or not, rap is now a permanent fixture in Aggie Football Tradition(Take that, Old Army).:D

If you want to only find players who prefer classic rock, country and oldies, then prepare to be on the losing end of a game with the Citadel, 77-0.

[BOOZINB85]

Odd, I rarely even notice the music when it's played at the stadium, yet I live and breath the success of Aggie Football. That's such a silly thing to dwell on. I, like everybody else, prefer certain types of music. However, I don't act offended when I hear something I don't like.

Most good kids these days listen to rap, just like the bad kids. That music is overwhelmingly popular with people my age. Listening to what's popular as a young man is NORMAL, and not an indication of lack of character. You may not know this, but "Wrecking Crew" was a term coined by one of our players. It was the name of a popular RAP GROUP at the time. Whether you like it or not, rap is now a permanent fixture in Aggie Football Tradition(Take that, Old Army).:D

If you want to only find players who prefer classic rock, country and oldies, then prepare to be on the losing end of a game with the Citadel, 77-0.

Hmmm didn't seem to matter in the 80's.

I guess my generation prefers music that doesn't involve lyrics that refer to ****ing your woman up the a$$, or "i'm gonna kill whitie". I've heard some of the lyrics from some of the music that you call rap. It's inapproiate, and it's offensive to me.

So if it is offensive to one person and this is the era of political correctness then using that logic, it should be pulled from the airwaves.

[TwelfthAG]

I guess my generation prefers music that doesn't involve lyrics that refer to ****ing your woman up the a$$, or "i'm gonna kill whitie". I've heard some of the lyrics from some of the music that you call rap. It's inapproiate, and it's offensive to me.

While the lyrics of rap music they play can be offensive, I think you are exagerating a bit.

http://www.aggiefans.net/users/twelfthag/temp/wordrap.jpg

[Pflugerville Ag]

Its not like they were playing 2 Live Crew!

[Loftin]

Hmmm didn't seem to matter in the 80's.


That's because we were winning. And unlike you, I'd rather the Aggies win than play music at the stadium that old people will enjoy.

[aggieamy07]

Hmmm didn't seem to matter in the 80's.

I guess my generation prefers music that doesn't involve lyrics that refer to ****ing your woman up the a$$, or "i'm gonna kill whitie". I've heard some of the lyrics from some of the music that you call rap. It's inapproiate, and it's offensive to me.

So if it is offensive to one person and this is the era of political correctness then using that logic, it should be pulled from the airwaves.

Screw political correctness...I hate PC anything. And using your logic I know plenty of people who don't like country or find it offensive to their ears so that shouldn't be played either I guess. Or because I'm not a fan of most rock/classic rock much then that shouldn't be played because it's offensive to my ears. Come on...it's just music and as long as it's the explicit lyrics aren't in there (i.e. no Eminem talking about killing his wife) or the cuss words are edited out totally or it's some random song about nothing like Grillz who cares.

[BOOZINB85]

Funny how when a rock/metal star has a party people just get drunk, stoned or laid. But at a rap star party there is always gunfire.

[aggieamy07]

Hmmm...last time I checked P Diddy had parties all the time and nothing happens at those except the same things at rock parties...AMAZING!

[Superaggie79]

And you guys thought I was baiting y'all.

[Superaggie79]

Funny how when a rock/metal star has a party people just get drunk, stoned or laid. But at a rap star party there is always gunfire.
Tell that to Dimebag

[Loftin]

Funny how when a rock/metal star has a party people just get drunk, stoned or laid. But at a rap star party there is always gunfire.

Wow. The sad thing is that I bet you believe that.

[TwelfthAG]

Sweeping generalization.

[aglock]

I don't care if it is really rap or not but if they have to edit a song (rap or not) to play it at a football stadium then it should not be played.

It is obvious to me that the majority of the replies to my original post or people with no children and do not understand what it means to be a father.

I have already explained to my children about the use of certain "bad" words when they hear them and that they are not approproiate.

It it is true I cannot keep them innocent forever but I certainly do not expect them to hear things that has always been a family event!

[Superaggie79]

It's an entertainment/money making event. They will sacrifice anything for another dollar.

[The Massacre]

i'm white and i be listening to da gangsta rap all da time, yo!

:D

[aggieamy07]

If the song is PROPERLY edited unless you let your kids listen to the music they shouldn't know what is being said. Yes, they should have edited out the "mother" part as well, but they didn't. Oh well, life goes on, the kid already knew the word anyway. It's one thing to be the best parent you can be and keep things away from your kids to the best of your ability but you can't expect everything to be up to your standards. Someone sitting around you could have said the entire thing anyway so be happy the song was at least semi-edited.

[Superaggie79]

That is a great point

[KCAggie]

You can go into a spencers in the mall and buy a shirt that says F--K on it. May not be right, but that is the way society is now. I personally would be more worried about kids watching girls gone wild commercials on late night tv than a half-ass edited rap song. Again, i do not have kids and would not want them to hear that type of music, but not really much you can do about it outside of locking them in their room.

[KCAggie]

And just so every doesn't think i'm gay, i myself quite enjoy the girls gone wild commericials.

[The Massacre]

And just so every doesn't think i'm gay, i myself quite enjoy the girls gone wild commericials.

i laughed. i enjoy them also. :D

[Vlyrock]

haha, nice.

[Dustin00whoop]

First off Boozin, if you are going to suggest another artist then at least get the guy's name right--there is no one named Robert Earl King (how the hell did no one else catch this?). He is Robert Earl Keen & if you were the Aggie that you claim to be, I would think you would at least know the name of one of the most famous Aggie singer/songwriters...especially since he was in school in the 80s. Hell, even these guys that are on campus now, that aren't in the Corps, know Robert Earl Keen.

Secondly, Aglock, don't go assuming you know about everyone on here. Both P-ville & I know what its like to be fathers. And I have no problem with my daughter hearing music that doesn't have cuss words in it. If its edited properly, she never would know that there is cussing in there in the first place. If you want to take issue with something, take issue with the improper editing of the song, not playing a song that had to be edited.

[Superaggie79]

I just figured he couldn't spell and I've seen how that goes around here.

[aglock]

Dustin......

I did not assume anything I was just reacting to the information provided.

The main point of this thread is:

1. For people who believe as i do to rally and voice their concerns to the administration.
2. More importantly if music has to be edited to be played on the 12th man TV it should not be played.

On the same subject, I did receive word back from the Atheletic Office and they are going to discuss this topic in their weekly meeting. Also, I was informed that I was not the only one to bring this to their attention.

[Pflugerville Ag]

2. More importantly if music has to be edited to be played on the 12th man TV it should not be played.

Then about half the songs on the radio should not be played either with that philosophy.

[Superaggie79]

This is true. If they change it will be because the minority is more vocal. Maybe I should rally students together just to make Byrne sweat it out.

[aglock]

Pfluggerville ag,

I am not talking about the radio and the radio does not enter into this subject. Texas A&M can not control that.........

I am strictly talking about what it is played at a family event at a university who supports family values and ethics.

[PinetarAg]

"I am not talking about the radio and the radio does not enter into this subject. Texas A&M can not control that........."- aglock



What about when said radio stations broadcast outside of games or other A&M events should they not be allowed to because they play music that has to be edited???

Shouldn't we applaude that they still edit music. With some of the things I hear and see on TV, I'm surprised they edit radio as much as they do.

[Dustin00whoop]

Aglock....if the song is properly edited, how would anyone know that it had to be edited in the first place, unless they knew the actual words to the song?

[Superaggie79]

What about "Rodeo" by Garth Brooks?

[Pflugerville Ag]

Or "Ain't goin' down till the sun comes up?" Anyone know what that songs is really about???? I'll even give rep to the first person who gives the right answer.

[Dustin00whoop]

a hard on

[KCAggie]

not going down on a chick until the guy gets his

[Pflugerville Ag]

a hard on

Correct. :rep:

[Pflugerville Ag]

And just so every doesn't think i'm gay, i myself quite enjoy the girls gone wild commericials.

Speaking of Girls Gone Wild....

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/09/12/ggw.plea/index.html

[Superaggie79]

does this mean my subscription will go up?