tu players tasered!!

[BigJohn]

Attorney: Deputies used a taser on Brown, Gatewood (http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2006/09/05/attorney_deputies_used_a_taser_on_brown_gatewood.h tml)

By Suzanne Halliburton (shalliburton@statesman.com) | Tuesday, September 5, 2006, 07:02 PM
Travis County deputies unnecessarily used tasers on Tarell Brown and Tyrell Gatewood before they arrested them early Monday morning, the lawyer representing the suspended Texas players charged Tuesday.
Jamie Balagio, the attorney for Brown and Gatewood, is requesting that a videotape of the arrest be made public.
“They were both unnecessarily tasered,” Balagia told the American-Statesman Tuesday evening. “If a tape is there, let them release it to the media.”
“The only time you use a taser is to prevent you from using a gun,” Balagia said. “Basically, they said, ‘We tasered them because we didn’t want to shoot them to death.’ “
Brown, a starting cornerback, and Gatewood, a reserve safety and special teams player, were riding with former Longhorn Aaron Harris early Monday morning when Harris was pulled over by sheriff’s deputies for erratic driving. Harris passed field sobriety tests, but according to the arrest affidavit, admitted that he had been smoking marijuana. Harris had .7 grams of marijuana in his pocket and deputies found 1.1 grams of pot under the front seat of the car.
Deputies said they saw Gatewood and Brown asleep in the car — Gatewood in the front seat and Brown in the back. They said a loaded 9mm handgun was in Brown’s lap. There was no mention in the affidavit that the deputies used a taser to subdue the players.
Brown was charged with possession of a handgun, a Class A misdemeanor, and possession of marijuana, a Class B misdemeanor. Gatewood and Harris each were charged with possession of marijuana.
Roger Wade, spokesman for the sheriff’s department, said he could not comment on the case. “We don’t respond until we get to court,” Wade said.
Brown and Gatewood have been suspended from team functions and will not play Saturday against Ohio State.
The two players met with Brown on Monday afternoon after they were released from jail. They voluntarily took a urine test Monday to prove that they had not been smoking pot.
Balagia said that Gatewood had bought the gun for “recreational” purposes and had used it at an indoor shooting range about two weeks ago. Balagia said Gatewood forgot to take the gun into his apartment. Brown saw it on the floorboard in the backseat, Balagia said, and offered to take it inside once the three arrived home Monday morning. Gatewood and Brown are roommates, and Harris has been staying with them temporarily.
“When they tasered them, they made the charge against Tyrell and then jacked up the charges on Tarell,” Balagia said.

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2006/09/05/attorney_deputies_used_a_taser_on_brown_gatewood.h tml

[The Massacre]

interesting

[beandip54321]

Wow, that is one of the strangest articles I have seen in a while.

[Dustin00whoop]

Leave it to The Statesman!

[Slotback]

There has to be documentation of the use of a tazer. If it was in fact used, that should not only be in the narrative of the report, it should also be found in the officer's probable cause statement.

[cyanide]

I think being tasered while asleep would be one heck of a way to wake up. heh...

[GregH]

Talk about a new kind of HIGH!!!!lol

[SHAG69]

There has to be documentation of the use of a tazer. If it was in fact used, that should not only be in the narrative of the report, it should also be found in the officer's probable cause statement.


What are you? An attorney?! If I get into trouble, I'm calling slotback!!:D

[BOOZINB85]

Let see, you pull over a vehicle with three large black men, and one has a 9mm in his lap. Yeah, i'd taser the sheot out of them for my protection. I'm sure there some missing information that would validate the tasering.

[polish]

Let see, you pull over a vehicle with three large black men, and one has a 9mm in his lap. Yeah, i'd taser the sheot out of them for my protection. I'm sure there some missing information that would validate the tasering.
Comments like that are why some people see A&M as racist :cry:

[BOOZINB85]

Comments like that are why some people see A&M as racist :cry:


Oh jeez, grow up. That isn't a racist statement. Face facts, you put yourself in the shoes of the police officer, and i'm sure you'd do the same. Or would you rather form a circle, hold hands and sing kumbaiya?

Sounds like the cops did the right thing.

[polish]

Oh jeez, grow up. That isn't a racist statement. Face facts, you put yourself in the shoes of the police officer, and i'm sure you'd do the same. Or would you rather form a circle, hold hands and sing kumbaiya?

Sounds like the cops did the right thing.
I disagree.

I can see Brown. Why was Gatewood tasered, for sleeping? If he was just because the car had a gun, why wasn't Harris tasered?

You were talking hypothetically, in your statement, and you mentioned that they were black had something to do with it.

Man you need to grow up to the world we live in. Face Facts.

[BOOZINB85]

I need to grow up!!?? Let's see how old are you? I've seen quite a bit in my 43 years, and I guarantee you that we aren't getting all the facts.

Why is it that these three black men had a 9mm weapon in their vehicle?

Why would a football player need a handgun, especially in Austin, which isn't that dangerous of a town. I should know, I spent 4 years there. These three thugs were up to no good, and you know it.

[Pflugerville Ag]

Gotta agree with Boozin on this one. A policeman walks up to a car and sees three men (who cares what color they are) and one has a gun in his lap. If they were sleeping and did not respond to the officers commands, then using a taser was justified. At that point, does the officer even know if the guys were actually asleep or acting like they were asleep. With a gun in plain view at 3am, he did what he needed to do to make sure that his safety was a priority.

Maybe if I see the video I will change my mind, but until then, I'll side with the police. As I said in my post on the other thread, this attorney for the players is a sleezy bastard. He always represents t.u. football players when they get in trouble and tries to get the media in Austin to turn on the police.

[Dustin00whoop]

Gotta agree with Boozin on this one. A policeman walks up to a car and sees three men (who cares what color they are)...

I think that is the point that Polish was trying to make, P-ville...who cares what color they are.

[BOOZINB85]

I think that is the point that Polish was trying to make, P-ville...who cares what color they are.


This is gonna sound racist, but it's not, so don't pull out the racial card, i'm just trying to point out the obvious.

How many times do you see three white guys being pulled over with a 9mm in their lap, with pot in the car, and the cops have to taser them?


I rest my case.

[addsae]

lets see what slotback has to say about it?

[Slotback]

In reading the article, it appears that more than one officer was present. That being the case, then one can cover the trio with his sidearm and another can produce a taser, thus giving a less than lethal option to the officers. The wild card in the whole situation was the pistol in Gatewood's lap. That was an immediate problem and of course the officers are going to make damn sure they go home that night. What do you expect?

Use of force must be documented. I'll guarantee one thing, if the officers had screwed up, the Sheriff would have been out front telling us that an internal investigation is ongoing.

[Burnetaggie99]

Their lucky they didn't shoot first.

[BOOZINB85]

Their lucky they didn't shoot first.

It's post like this which upset polish who is too politically correct to see the truth, to think that we Aggies are racist.


Here is what would happen if a democrat came up on this situation.
Unable to remove the trigger lock in time, the democrat tries to reason with the three thugs and is killed.

Here is what would happen if the cop was a Republican. Bam, Bam, Bam.

Here is what would happen if the cop was from the south.
Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, reload, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

[The Massacre]

The loss of Brown, a senior and Texas' top cover corner, represents a huge blow to a defensive unit considered the Longhorns' strength this season. Brown was likely to draw the assignment of covering Buckeye wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr., one of Ohio State's top playmakers.

i thought brown was a redshirt freshman??

[Dustin00whoop]

It's post like this which upset polish who is too politically correct to see the truth, to think that we Aggies are racist.
That couldn't be farther from the truth. Burnet's post had nothing to do with race--he just stated a point. Your post, however was strictly about race.

And note to you, Boozin, anytime you start a statement with, "this is going to sound racist," know that it is because it is racist. Anytime someone says, "this is going to sound racist," you can bet that whatever follows the comma is going to be racist statement. So take off your hood, quit building your crosses to burn, & wake up.

[cyanide]

And the sounds coming from my door at three a.m. after the Ags win the national champsionship: Bam! Bam-bam-bam-bam! Bam-bam-bam-bam-b-bam! Come ON, honey! Open the door!

[Pflugerville Ag]

I think that is the point that Polish was trying to make, P-ville...who cares what color they are.

I made that comment not about their color, but b/c Polish disagreed with them being tasered.

[Pflugerville Ag]

I heard a very interesting update to this story on the news this morning. Apparently, the lawyers that are representing the two players are big t.u. fans and are only charing the players $1 to represent them. I know that lawyers are allowed to do pro bono work, but if they are only doing this b/c these are sip football players, how would this not be a big NCAA violation???? I seriously doubt that any of us would have a lawyer offer to defend us for $1 if we were in the same situation.

[BOOZINB85]

I heard a very interesting update to this story on the news this morning. Apparently, the lawyers that are representing the two players are big t.u. fans and are only charing the players $1 to represent them. I know that lawyers are allowed to do pro bono work, but if they are only doing this b/c these are sip football players, how would this not be a big NCAA violation???? I seriously doubt that any of us would have a lawyer offer to defend us for $1 if we were in the same situation.


If you ran a 4.1 40 and could throw the football a mile you probably wouldn't have much to worry about.

[Burnetaggie99]

File a complaint with the NCAA. Lately Austin cops have been shooting first around here. I think they killed like 4 or 5 people in the last 8 months. So thats why I said the tu football players were lucky the cops didn't shoot first.

[Slotback]

Austin might be Moscow on the Colorado, but don't jack with APD or TCSO. They'll at minimum change your channel.

[BOOZINB85]

An old friend of mine who grew up in Georgetown told me the difference between Travis county(Austin), and the ajoining county Williamson(Round Rock/Georgetown).

Travis county, you get pulled over and they find a bag of weed, they dump it out and send you on your way.

Williamson county, you get pulled over and they find a roach, you go too Huntsville.

[aggiedad04]

:confused: Interesting; at best. All we have is a comment from a lawyer that is trying to get his client off/lighter sentence that the police used a taser (a trigger word if you will to obtain a negitive reaction by the public.) Nothing in the report we know of, about the use of a taser and yes if it was used I am sure it would have been in the report. My big question is if you put yourself in your buds car and find a pistol under the seat would the normal and resonable person hold the gun in their lap and go to sleep? I value my limbs to much to take the chance shooting myself. Let the friend take his pistol inside himself when he gets home. I will be the good friend and remind him, not hold it for him. My guess is they wernt asleep at all and as others have said were up to no good..Just my guess.

[BOOZINB85]

:confused: Interesting; at best. All we have is a comment from a lawyer that is trying to get his client off/lighter sentence that the police used a taser (a trigger word if you will to obtain a negitive reaction by the public.) Nothing in the report we know of, about the use of a taser and yes if it was used I am sure it would have been in the report. My big question is if you put yourself in your buds car and find a pistol under the seat would the normal and resonable person hold the gun in their lap and go to sleep? I value my limbs to much to take the chance shooting myself. Let the friend take his pistol inside himself when he gets home. I will be the good friend and remind him, not hold it for him. My guess is they wernt asleep at all and as others have said were up to no good..Just my guess.


If you find a gun in your buddies car, along with the pot, you do the smart thing. Get out, call a friend, parent or taxi and go home.

[Dustin00whoop]

He was in the front seat with the gun, right? How about at least putting the damn thing in the glove compartment or the center console. That where I always carry both my grass & my guns. :D

[The Massacre]

i am pretty sure he was in the back seat with the gun in his lap. i think he was also asleep.

[Dustin00whoop]

Okay, even in the back seat...put it in the center console, or hand it to Gatewood to put in the glove compartment.

[Dustin00whoop]

And who believes for one second a drug test performed by the university. Let an independent perform the test. Thats like Lance Armstrong saying, I've been tested 100s of times by Team Discovery & never tested positive. What kind of credibility is there in that?

[BOOZINB85]

And who believes for one second a drug test performed by the university. Let an independent perform the test. Thats like Lance Armstrong saying, I've been tested 100s of times by Team Discovery & never tested positive. What kind of credibility is there in that?

Yeah, and Floyd Landis ate something bad the night before. More along the lines like of him getting a bad dose of masking agent that day. What do you want to bet Phonak sacked their team physican.

Lance sucks, and that's the truth.

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[Pflugerville Ag]

Not that it matters much, but they were not pulled over by Austin PD. It was the Travis County Sheriff's department that pulled them over.

[Burnetaggie99]

When I was in Iraq, I slept with a loaded gun with the safety off, that way all I had to do was find a target and start pulling the trigger.

[BOOZINB85]

When I was in Iraq, I slept with a loaded gun with the safety off, that way all I had to do was find a target and start pulling the trigger.


Did you have the privelage of sending any of those godless islamic facist pigs straight to Hell?

[Burnetaggie99]

Put it this way you should sleep well knowing that my Marine Recon unit while @ Camp Blue Diamond Iraq near Ramadi in the Al Anbar Province took care of alot of problems.

[Pflugerville Ag]

:rep: to Burnet

[BOOZINB85]

Put it this way you should sleep well knowing that my Marine Recon unit while @ Camp Blue Diamond Iraq near Ramadi in the Al Anbar Province took care of alot of problems.

Thank you for your service, and for ridding this world of part of the muslim scourge.

[Dustin00whoop]

Thank you for your service, and for ridding this world of part of the muslim scourge.

Boozin, you came across as a crotchity old man at first, but you've had me laughing my ass off the last couple of days. :rep: to you & burnet. Keep it up!

[BOOZINB85]

Boozin, you came across as a crotchity old man at first, but you've had me laughing my ass off the last couple of days. :rep: to you & burnet. Keep it up!

Thank you sir. It takes me a little time, but I do have my moments.


BTW, the Mark Dodge piece was very inspiring.