Tech In Dallas

[Burnetaggie99]

:mad: I will refuse to buy tickets to this game if its moved. I think all students and alumni should show Byrne a lesson and boycott this game. This game is meant to be played @ Kyle Field. Since when is it that the voice of most Aggies goes unlooked by Byrne. I'm for starting a campain against the move of this game. I will be making Maroon shirts for this year saying something about keeping the game @ Kyle Field. I just have not come up with something I like yet. Maybe someone else has some ideas. Once the shirts are made, I will sell them outside Kyle Field and donate the money to the 12th man foundation.

[TwelfthAG]

Keep it at Kyle, Damnit!

[Loftin]

Has that issue come up again? I thought that Bill Byrne laid off the idea when his email was swamped with hate mail.

[House Divided RV]

You realize that donating the money to the 12th Man is donating to $Bill. If you get these shirts up and going, I will buy 3 right away. I hate this idea beyond belief.

I think there was an article from Tech's AD where he basically said he is for it because of the money aspect.

ALL CONFERENCE GAMES SHOULD BE PLAYED IN THE HOME TEAM'S HOME STADIUM PERIOD!!!

[House Divided RV]

Here is the link I saw about Tech's AD...

http://www.redraiders.com/stories/082006/foo_082006027.shtml

[Superaggie79]

:mad: I will refuse to buy tickets to this game if its moved. I think all students and alumni should show Byrne a lesson and boycott this game. This game is meant to be played @ Kyle Field. Since when is it that the voice of most Aggies goes unlooked by Byrne. I'm for starting a campain against the move of this game. I will be making Maroon shirts for this year saying something about keeping the game @ Kyle Field. I just have not come up with something I like yet. Maybe someone else has some ideas. Once the shirts are made, I will sell them outside Kyle Field and donate the money to the 12th man foundation.

I'm not sure that it's the voice of most aggies. It's probably more the loudest voice. Plus there are plenty of benefits of playing up there. We can't think like aggies that are against any change... college football is changing and we have to change with it or take the chance of being left behind.

[The Massacre]

i don't want to see the game moved, but lubbock is a horrible road trip and having the game in dallas would almost give us a "home field" advantage each year. i mean as far as the number of fans that go to the game, that is.

[Loftin]

I'm not sure that it's the voice of most aggies. It's probably more the loudest voice.

I'd be willing to bet that more than 90% of Aggies oppose the idea of moving the game to Dallas.


Plus there are plenty of benefits of playing up there. We can't think like aggies that are against any change... college football is changing and we have to change with it or take the chance of being left behind.


How is legitmizing a rivalry with Texas Tech moving up? I'd say it's a big downgrade from the Texas A&M Football prestige we had 10 years ago.


i don't want to see the game moved, but lubbock is a horrible road trip and having the game in dallas would almost give us a "home field" advantage each year. i mean as far as the number of fans that go to the game, that is.


There are only a handful of Aggies that go to that game anyway. If you don't want to go to Lubbock, don't. I enjoy the home game we have with them.

Also, I doubt that our numbers advantage in Dallas is as big as you think. In Houston, San Antonio or Austin there are WAY more Aggies than Red Raiders. In Dallas, however, I see a much higher percentage of Raiders and a much lower percentage of Aggies than other Texas cities.

[AggieFrog]

I don't want to see us play Tech in Dallas, even though that would mean a short drive for me. I would MUCH rather play Arkansas or LSU.

[The Massacre]

Also, I doubt that our numbers advantage in Dallas is as big as you think. In Houston, San Antonio or Austin there are WAY more Aggies than Red Raiders. In Dallas, however, I see a much higher percentage of Raiders and a much lower percentage of Aggies than other Texas cities.

yah, but you said there are few Aggies that go to the game in lubbock. i'm sure a lot more would go the game if it were in dallas. that would even out the "away" game, but we would still lose numbers for the games that should have been at Kyle.

[Superaggie79]

I'd be willing to bet that more than 90% of Aggies oppose the idea of moving the game to Dallas.



How is legitmizing a rivalry with Texas Tech moving up? I'd say it's a big downgrade from the Texas A&M Football prestige we had 10 years ago.
You said it right there 10 years ago... we ain't **** now and we need to realize it and have a chip on our shoulder and do something about it... And yes humiliating Tech on national tv every year would be good as long as they stay a legitimate top 25 team.



There are only a handful of Aggies that go to that game anyway. If you don't want to go to Lubbock, don't. I enjoy the home game we have with them.

Also, I doubt that our numbers advantage in Dallas is as big as you think. In Houston, San Antonio or Austin there are WAY more Aggies than Red Raiders. In Dallas, however, I see a much higher percentage of Raiders and a much lower percentage of Aggies than other Texas cities.
I didn't say anything about our numbers being equal. Tech is going to go to this game no matter what. I don't know if you've noticed but in Kyle field they travel pretty damn well.

[House Divided RV]

National TV has not been confirmed yet. If this cannot be confirmed on ABC then this should never go through. Either way, I am still totally against the change in venue.

[Superaggie79]

National TV has not been confirmed yet. If this cannot be confirmed on ABC then this should never go through. Either way, I am still totally against the change in venue.
Agreed if it's not nationally televised then I'd drop the idea as well.

[Burnetaggie99]

I still need sloan ideas for the shirts.

[Superaggie79]

drink much?

[Aggiediver03]

The decision of whether to have any game in Dallas (or any other neutral site) is about exposure/recruiting/tv/etc. It is not about legitimizing a rivalry with Tech. I think people are making way too big a deal about it, honestly any conference game is just as important as the next one, and rivalry or not beating Tech is just as important as beating Texas because it gets us one step closer to the goal.

Would another school like LSU be a better option for a Dallas game? maybe, but because they are a bigger name school who would get us more exposure than Tech. But if Tech is all we can get and the tv/etc deal is a good one, then I say go for it.

And yes I live in Dallas, so it would be convenient for me, but that's one why I think it's a good idea. It's a big picture thing.

[Fxalaweed]

As much as I'd love to see the game stay home and home it might help the team get their head outta their ARSE! One of the biggest problems besides coaching against tech is the fact that they see us as a BIG rival and we look at them as the Red-Headed step child of Teaxs. They play us as if they were in the Nat'l Champ game and we play them like they are U.LA.LA. thus the beatings we've taken as of late. So maybe putting the game on the same stage as the red creek shootout might help step our game.

[Loftin]

I understand that beating Tech on a (semi) big stage would help us a little bit right now. But this is a long term deal that will hurt our image as a top tier program for a long time.

Even if you believe that Tech is equal to us and that this isn't completely embarrassing to even discuss, you have to realize that legitimizing a rivalry with them is settling. It's like saying, "we haven't been good enough to beat our real rivals in the last couple of years, so let's pick someone we can beat and settle for mediocrity."

[House Divided RV]

ALL CONFERENCE GAMES SHOULD BE PLAYED ON THE CAMPUSES! PERIOD! Move all the non-conference games you want but leave the conference games alone.

[Aggiediver03]

football programs are cyclic, there are years where you are up and years where you are down, you go on streaks with rivals, etc. I do not understand why everyone is getting their panties in a bunch over a game with Tech, it does not diminish our rivalry with Texas - it's still played on T+1, the traditional rivalry week. A&M-tu will always get more publicity than Tech. But whether you like it or not (and I'm not a fan of the Tech football program) they have been playing well the last several years and are earning more and more respect, so playing them on a publicized weekend cannot possibly hurt us.....unless we lose. So if you're afraid of losing to them, then fine, lets play them in the dark, otherwise, bring it on...

[Loftin]

so playing them on a publicized weekend cannot possibly hurt us.....unless we lose. So if you're afraid of losing to them, then fine, lets play them in the dark, otherwise, bring it on...

Win or lose, it lumps us in with the red-headed stepchild status of Texas Tech.

Nice job trying to turn it around and say that not wanting to play them in College Station and in Lubbock is an admission of inferiority. Like I said before, playing this game at a neutral site is settling for mediocrity on a permanent basis. I like to think of Aggie Football as something greater than that.

[Burnetaggie99]

Most of the time the Tech game @ Kyle is a national big game on TV anyways. Why give up the chance to win that game at home. Also you are Fu*king students out of seats and those of us who can't donate the big money won't be able to get seats. The towns of B- CS will lose money they could be making on a gameday weekend too. If we want to get a non - conference team like TCU of LSU, then I would agree to that as most Aggies would to. The Tech game needs to stay like it is. You think the players and coaches are for giving up the home field avanatage and the gameday atmosphere that impress recruits taking vists to Kyle Field during that game. The 12th man would also be lost due to the fact the staidium will be split even with Tech. This is a stupid idea and if we think we need to play in Dallas, then it should be a non - conference game.

[House Divided RV]

THANK YOU Burnetaggie99! Well said!

[Superaggie79]

Most of the time the Tech game @ Kyle is a national big game on TV anyways. Why give up the chance to win that game at home. Also you are Fu*king students out of seats and those of us who can't donate the big money won't be able to get seats. The towns of B- CS will lose money they could be making on a gameday weekend too. If we want to get a non - conference team like TCU of LSU, then I would agree to that as most Aggies would to. The Tech game needs to stay like it is. You think the players and coaches are for giving up the home field avanatage and the gameday atmosphere that impress recruits taking vists to Kyle Field during that game. The 12th man would also be lost due to the fact the staidium will be split even with Tech. This is a stupid idea and if we think we need to play in Dallas, then it should be a non - conference game.
The students will go... many are from that area. Remember how much we dominated the cotton bowl in numbers of fans?

[Burnetaggie99]

How are we going to give the students tickets if 1. they are not going to include this game on their sport passes. 2. how will they pay the $80 ticket price. 3. the cotton bowl only holds 65,000 and we have 40,000 students alone. How are we going to get all the current sports pass student tickets. As far as us old Ags it will fall down to how much we donate to get a ticket to this game. Then you have to give Tech the other half of the seating. Just stupid sh*t. I'm all for it if it's with a non - conference team.

[Superaggie79]

You really think all 40,000 students go to the games at Kyle? Ma and Pa will buy the tickets like everything else and as far as the money read: wannabe aggies.

[Burnetaggie99]

There nothing about wanna be Aggies. I have had season tickets since I graduated A&M '99. I pay about $1,200 for 2 seats and donate over another $1,000. My dad helps me out with a little of the donation he is class of '72 but other than that I foot the bill. I support the Ags win or lose. I can bet though I will fall into the category of not getting tickets to this Tech game if moved to Dallas. If any Aggie gives any money to the university, he's a Aggie in my book.

[Aggiediver03]

Win or lose, it lumps us in with the red-headed stepchild status of Texas Tech.

Nice job trying to turn it around and say that not wanting to play them in College Station and in Lubbock is an admission of inferiority. Like I said before, playing this game at a neutral site is settling for mediocrity on a permanent basis. I like to think of Aggie Football as something greater than that.

I'm not trying to turn anything around or say we are inferior. And just how is a neutral location settling for mediocrity? Always playing away games (eg small schools in non-con games) sure I get that as admitting who is better. But a neutral site is just that, neutral...not an admission of anything.

[Aggiediver03]

Also you are Fu*king students out of seats and those of us who can't donate the big money won't be able to get seats. The towns of B- CS will lose money they could be making on a gameday weekend too.

I agree with you that at least some students would not be able to go to the game, and if this was done, there needs to be some way to include the game at least as an option on sports passes.

And yes, BCS would absolutely lose money on the deal. But ultimately this is all about money and recruiting, so the athletic department will have to decide what's best, and inevitably someone will be upset.

[Vlyrock]

How is legitmizing a rivalry with Texas Tech moving up? I'd say it's a big downgrade from the Texas A&M Football prestige we had 10 years ago.

I'm tired of reading people saying legitimizing a rival hurts a program or makes it lose prestige. First of all, a program isn't prestigious based on who it calls its rival. It's prestigious based on how many games it wins yearly.

If Baylor was our neutral site game, and we went 50-3 over a 5 year span, people wouldn't say, "Man, Texas A&M is really good, but look at who they have a neutral game with and have a rivalry with. What a laughingstock."

I mean, honestly...I've said it before and I'll say it again -- any major school in Texas (tu, baylor, tech) should be considered a rival. We compete with them on so many levels (on the field, admissions, recruiting) that it's important we win every single possible game against every single Texas school.

I don't think who is pinned as your rival defines your program and how well it is (or isn't doing).

Also, this Texas Tech team isn't the same Tech team from 10 years ago.

[House Divided RV]

Speak it, Vly!!! :gig:

[Aggiediver03]

I'm tired of reading people saying legitimizing a rival hurts a program or makes it lose prestige. First of all, a program isn't prestigious based on who it calls its rival. It's prestigious based on how many games it wins yearly.

If Baylor was our neutral site game, and we went 50-3 over a 5 year span, people wouldn't say, "Man, Texas A&M is really good, but look at who they have a neutral game with and have a rivalry with. What a laughingstock."

I mean, honestly...I've said it before and I'll say it again -- any major school in Texas (tu, baylor, tech) should be considered a rival. We compete with them on so many levels (on the field, admissions, recruiting) that it's important we win every single possible game against every single Texas school.

I don't think who is pinned as your rival defines your program and how well it is (or isn't doing).

Also, this Texas Tech team isn't the same Tech team from 10 years ago.

I agree 100% :gig:

And that would be very, very impressive if anyone could go 50-3 in 5 years...:wow:

[Vlyrock]

I agree 100% :gig:

And that would be very, very impressive if anyone could go 50-3 in 5 years...:wow:

Yeah the numbers off. There'd actually be 7 more games (plus bowl games) -- I just threw numbers out. :)

[Aggiediver03]

Here's an update from this morning's Dallas Morning News, not really anything we didn't already know except that it's still being negotiated.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/082206dnspotecham.334e97e.html

[aggie1997]

This issue needs to die!

[Dustin00whoop]

There is nothing good that could come out of this. We lose another home game & then we have to deal with red raider fan every year instead of every other year.

[Superaggie79]

Louie supports it!

[jagowar]

I personally dont give a crap where the game is played.... I just want us to start beating the living snot out of them each year. Thats the only (and I repeat ONLY thing I care about). I'd rather see us play the damn game in alaska if we could beat the crap out of them each and every year.

[macduff93]

I still need sloan ideas for the shirts.


"We do NOT want to play those $#*&&@()*@&)&&$#@#@!* wankin', wannabe crybaby convicts-in-training in Dallas!"



No?!? just trying to help.

[Dustin00whoop]

Louie supports it!

Exactly....that shows you how bad of an idea it is. If that idiot supports it then you know its a horrible idea. And I'm with BurnetAggie...if they move it, I won't go. Other than money, there isn't a single reason to move this game.

[Superaggie79]

Exactly....that shows you how bad of an idea it is. If that idiot supports it then you know its a horrible idea. And I'm with BurnetAggie...if they move it, I won't go. Other than money, there isn't a single reason to move this game.
What if the tides changed and moon lined up with uranus and we were #2 playing a #1 Tech?

[Burnetaggie99]

I still won't be there.

[Superaggie79]

Good I can get my buddy a ticket then!

[Dustin00whoop]

I wouldn't be there because I'd be pissed that the game should've been played at Kyle. Like I said, other than money, give me one good reason to move this freaking game.

[Dustin00whoop]

Good I can get my buddy a ticket then!

And no, don't think you'll be able to get your buddy a ticket. The big time money will be able to get their buddies tickets. You'll be sitting at home like the rest of us wondering why in the hell we ever moved this game to Dallas.

[Loftin]

Exactly....that shows you how bad of an idea it is. If that idiot supports it then you know its a horrible idea. And I'm with BurnetAggie...if they move it, I won't go. Other than money, there isn't a single reason to move this game.

I, too, would never attend this abomination.

[Superaggie79]

Being a true aggie I'm just supposed to pay for my ticket stand and yell no matter what right?

[Dustin00whoop]

When the administration sells out the student body & the majority of season ticket holders I think the rules change.

There is a huge difference between not supporting some type of money hungry move & not going to the t.u. game because you think we're going to get beat, or leaving the ISU game early because we're getting killed. Both of those things pissed me off so badly last year. I still get red in the face thinking about all of those 2%ers filing out of Kyle in the early part of the 4th quarter of the ISU game.

[Superaggie79]

What if that added money meant that we had the ability to increase our facilities more and attract more star recruits and one a national championship in Football and Basketball and brought us back to power in Baseball?

[Dustin00whoop]

What if that added money meant that we had the ability to increase our facilities more and attract more star recruits and one a national championship in Football and Basketball and brought us back to power in Baseball?

If you think that we are so close that a little more money from a TV deal could get facilities to a point that we could win NCs in both football & basketball you are off your rocker. And besides, there is no way to say that could or couldn't be the case, so its pointless to argue it. When we start sacrificing things that make A&M A&M to get more money we are heading in the wrong direction. And if it continues, the A&M my daughter will know won't even be comparable to the A&M that I know. And in my mind, thats a bad thing.

[Aggiediver03]

Like it or not, money is a major factor and without it we cannot continue to compete and attract top notch recruits. If it allows us to get more money and turn that into better facilities/etc we have a much better chance of winning and regaining our prestige.

Those of you who want to whine about it can just sit home and pout.

[Dustin00whoop]

Or those of you who are okay with it could start giving some freaking money to the program so we don't have to get money from other sources.

[Dustin00whoop]

Like it or not, money is a major factor and without it we cannot continue to compete and attract top notch recruits. If it allows us to get more money and turn that into better facilities/etc we have a much better chance of winning and regaining our prestige.

Those of you who want to whine about it can just sit home and pout.

My initial post in response to this was kind of harsh. I guess what I'm getting at is, there are more ways to raise money for the program without having to sell out for a TV deal. Most of you young guys are too young to remember, but Groff did the same damn thing with the t.u. game. Took a TV contract to move it to 10:30 in the freaking morning the day after Thanksgiving. It hasn't been the same since.

Now, we're looking at taking a home game away to play on a neutral site for nothing but money. It makes no sense. And yes, while those of us who decide to whine about it can sit at home & pout, don't forget that those of you who don't whine about will be sitting at home & pouting because you couldn't get a ticket.

[Superaggie79]

If you think that we are so close that a little more money from a TV deal could get facilities to a point that we could win NCs in both football & basketball you are off your rocker. And besides, there is no way to say that could or couldn't be the case, so its pointless to argue it. When we start sacrificing things that make A&M A&M to get more money we are heading in the wrong direction. And if it continues, the A&M my daughter will know won't even be comparable to the A&M that I know. And in my mind, thats a bad thing.
If we are that far away then we need money even worse.

[Dustin00whoop]

If we are that far away then we need money even worse.

Wow, I remember when I used to think that way. You do realize that you can't just throw money at a problem & fix it, right? If that were the case then the Yankees would always win the WS, & by spending more we would be guaranteed a MNC, etc. The problems we have with our program cannot be fixed by simply getting a TV deal.

[Pflugerville Ag]

Agree with just about everything Dustin is preaching. :rep:

[Superaggie79]

Wow, I remember when I used to think that way. You do realize that you can't just throw money at a problem & fix it, right? If that were the case then the Yankees would always win the WS, & by spending more we would be guaranteed a MNC, etc. The problems we have with our program cannot be fixed by simply getting a TV deal.
I would like to see the numbers for money spent for athletics at texas, usc, florida state, and miami.

[Dustin00whoop]

I would like to see the numbers for money spent for athletics at texas, usc, florida state, and miami.

Well, look it up then. I'm not going to do your research for you. :D

[Superaggie79]

I will I just gotta work now so if anyone else also wonders they may do the research

[Pflugerville Ag]

Found some interesting data on http://www2.indystar.com/NCAA_financial_reports/expense_stat/show?school_id=144

t.u. brings in $89.65M in revenue in all sports. $52.30M came from football. Take away their expenses and they make a profit of $7.25M overall (profit of $39.29M in football)

A&M brings in $64M in revenue in all sports. $36.36M came from football. Take away our expenses and the profit is $5.3M ($24.98M in football).

Florida State brings in $56M in revenue in all sports. Only $18M came from football. Take away their expenses and they only made $164K. Football profited $6.6M.

Miami and USC were not listed. Most other schools are. Its crazy that FSU profits less than $200K in sports. But, if I remember correctly, they do not charge students for any sporting event (even football).

[Superaggie79]

wow... I thought texas didn't charge students either.

[Dustin00whoop]

Well, looking at that P-ville, it kind of proves my point. There are a lot of schools that have better football programs that we do & they make less money--Nebraska, West Virginia, Auburn, to name a few. LSU is right there with us money wise & yet their program is leaps & bounds above ours.

Like I said before, if you think this TV deal to play Tech (keep in mind, its just freaking tech...not Notre Dame, Michigan, or Penn State) will bring our program to the same level as some of these other programs we are talking about, you have lost it.

[Dustin00whoop]

NO....t.u. definitely charges students.

[Superaggie79]

Please don't bring West Virginia into this.

[Dustin00whoop]

Please don't bring West Virginia into this.

You want to argue that we have a better program than West Virginia? Seriously? I'm just bringing up programs that are better than ours. West Virginia is one of those...without a doubt.

[Loftin]

This is the first time in a long time that I agree with Dustin on a thread.

[Superaggie79]

You want to argue that we have a better program than West Virginia? Seriously? I'm just bringing up programs that are better than ours. West Virginia is one of those...without a doubt.
I'm talking about school that are consistently top tier and have large national exposure. WV is good now but we'll see if they can keep it up (shouldn't be hard in that conference)

[Dustin00whoop]

I'm talking about school that are consistently top tier and have large national exposure. WV is good now but we'll see if they can keep it up (shouldn't be hard in that conference)

I'm proving your point wrong. They took a program that only won 3 games in '01 & now have gone to 4 straight bowl games & won a BCS title game with considerably less money running through their Athletic Department. It just proves my point that there are ways to fix a program without selling out your fan base for a TV contract.

[Superaggie79]

Miami is a private school?

[Superaggie79]

I'm proving your point wrong. They took a program that only won 3 games in '01 & now have gone to 4 straight bowl games & won a BCS title game with considerably less money running through their Athletic Department. It just proves my point that there are ways to fix a program without selling out your fan base for a TV contract.
sell me on your plan

[Dustin00whoop]

Win, Win, Win!!!! We have some of the best facilities in the nation. We have had a top 20 recruiting class the last 6 years. We have one of the highest paid coaches in the nation. We have one of the highest capacity stadiums in the nation. The only thing we need to do to drum out national attention is win freaking football games. We haven't been doing that, but its not because we don't have enough money.

And on that note, don't get started Loftin. Lets just agree that for now, we don't know the reason for us not winning football games. But I guarantee you that after this season either I will agree with you, or you will agree with me....I hope its the latter, because I'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

[Superaggie79]

Ok but how do we do that?

[House Divided RV]

WIN! Winning solves all problems with recruiting, filling the stadium, 12th Man donations, etc. If you win, the networks will put you on TV more, which will give you more chances for recruits to see you on TV, which allows more former students to consider getting season tickets and joining the 12th Man. WINNING IS THE KEY TO ALL IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!

[Superaggie79]

This means that we're doing something else wrong. It's not like our guys are sitting there saying who cares let's just lose. So what do we do to win? Fire Fran and hire someone else? That'll cost money to buy him out and then sign someone else. Get better recruits? If they're not coming now then we've gotta change something which will cost money. Just tell me how do we just win?

[Pflugerville Ag]

It's not like our guys are sitting there saying who cares let's just lose.

I can make a strong arguement that this was a false statement with last year's team.

[Superaggie79]

Anyone that is an athlete doesn't like to lose

[Aggiediver03]

My initial post in response to this was kind of harsh. I guess what I'm getting at is, there are more ways to raise money for the program without having to sell out for a TV deal. Most of you young guys are too young to remember, but Groff did the same damn thing with the t.u. game. Took a TV contract to move it to 10:30 in the freaking morning the day after Thanksgiving. It hasn't been the same since.

Now, we're looking at taking a home game away to play on a neutral site for nothing but money. It makes no sense. And yes, while those of us who decide to whine about it can sit at home & pout, don't forget that those of you who don't whine about will be sitting at home & pouting because you couldn't get a ticket.

First of all I really don't think my age has anything to do with it, and even if it does I really don't think 3 years is a very big deal.

I never said that money is the only consideration. The entire picture should considered in any decision like this. But you contradict yourself when you say money isn't everything and then in your next breath tell me and "us young guys" that we should be donating money. Frankly if I want to donate money then I will, but it's really no one's business but mine. Nevertheless, any money that I would ever donate would be insignificant in relation to a TV contract.

And you can always get a ticket, whether you are willing to pay for it is a different story. But I'm willing to take my chances.

[Loftin]

And on that note, don't get started Loftin. Lets just agree that for now, we don't know the reason for us not winning football games. But I guarantee you that after this season either I will agree with you, or you will agree with me....I hope its the latter, because I'll be laughing all the way to the bank.


That's true. And I also hope that I agree with you at the end of this season.

[Slotback]

We should keep our home game in College Station. If Tech wants to play their home game at Jerry's World, fine.

Unfortunately I believe we are going to be stuck with this game being played in Dallas in the future.

[Burnetaggie99]

You figure that aleast 10,000 students graduate a year from this great university. We have a 45,000 enrollment. Just say our total alumni base is somewhere around 80,000. If those 80,000 people would just give the university $20 a year, that would be about $1,600,000 dollars a year the university could use to hep pay for the things to keep up with the big boys. So if most alumni just pony up like the rest of us we wouldn't have this problem.

[Dustin00whoop]

You figure that aleast 10,000 students graduate a year from this great university. We have a 45,000 enrollment. Just say our total alumni base is somewhere around 80,000. If those 80,000 people would just give the university $20 a year, that would be about $1,600,000 dollars a year the university could use to hep pay for the things to keep up with the big boys. So if most alumni just pony up like the rest of us we wouldn't have this problem.

Thats kind of what I said initially, but you just made it sound a lot nicer. Good job, Burnet. :rep:

[macduff93]

If those 80,000 people would just give the university $20 a year, that would be about $1,600,000 dollars a year the university could use to hep pay for the things to keep up with the big boys. So if most alumni just pony up like the rest of us we wouldn't have this problem.


Some of decrepit old, non-millionare, farts give more than that already. :mad:

I can assure you, though, that IF this season is a great as I feel it could be, the level of involvement and generosity will increase significantly. We all want to feel like we did in 1985 when Jackie's plan finally fell into place and we dominated the SWC. It just ain't been the same since he left, at least not for me and all the Old Ags in this part of Texas.

[MarylandAG]

Does anybody else see a problem with this

Fran quote


Franchione said he doesn't have a strong opinion on moving the Texas Tech (http://www.aggiesports.com/delicious/feed.php?tag=Texas_Tech_Red_Raiders)-A&M series to Dallas.
"We've got to play them no matter what, so it's not a tremendous deal to me," Franchione said.

From this source
http://www.aggiesports.com/stories/082406/football_20060824054.php


How can you not have a strong opinion on this when your teams FANS have very STRONG opinions on the subject! How can it not be a tremendous deal, taking a game away from Kyle Field! Be critical of me if you want, but I think the head coach at a university should be responsive to the fans! After all we pay the salary, if the fans don't show up.....I do think this is a BIG deal, and I wouldn't be so non chalant about it!:mad:

[Dustin00whoop]

I agree, Pinche. That is absolutely appalling. You're damn right he better have an opinion. Quit wussing out & take a freaking stand. I understand that he has to play to both sides (the guy that signs his paycheck & the people that are/aren't calling for his head) but at least say you can see both sides.

[MarylandAG]

Before anybody says anything, Coach Fran is the head coach at Texas A&M and right now he calls the shots for my Aggies and as such I support him and root for him to right this ship. But like Pinche says, I'm tired of these "PC" responses, come on coach show me some fire! You have to have an opinion and a strong one at that when you coach at our school!

[Superaggie79]

A&M vs Tech Dallas '07 WHOOP!