I knew Texas wasn't that good [Archive]

Loftin

12-10-2005, 06:16 PM

Texas at #2 is a joke that everyone will finally get to laugh at when they are exposed by Duke on Saturday.

LINK (http://www.aggiefans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4854)

I've been saying since before the exhibition games even started that Oklahoma was the best in the Big XII and that Texas was nowhere even close to being the #2 team in the country. The media lovefest continues, and Texas still sucks. They will probably go 1-1 against the Aggies again this year, and there is no way that they will win @Iowa State. OU will likely sweep the Bongwhorns this year. :gig:

Loftin

12-10-2005, 06:23 PM

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texag005

12-10-2005, 06:27 PM

The media lovefest will continue on forever with texas. For some reason maybe because the media is mostly liberal yankee hippies and texas university is made up of liberal hippies for the most part? I'm just glad that this media bull**** finally got brought out in the open. I put money on it that they will beat a few more creampuffs, i don't know who's on their schedule, but they'll beat a few teams and be right back up at the top again. It's constant BS

TwelfthAG

12-10-2005, 06:40 PM

"#2 Texas gets blown out by #1" ... I have a feeling we'll be hearing that again very soon :gig:

CaliHornia

12-10-2005, 06:58 PM

jagowar

12-10-2005, 07:18 PM

I wouldn't extrapolate anything about how you will play against us from how we played today against Duke. That competition was a hair better than you've seen against UNT.

We've already beaten two top 20 teams this year. I don't think we're the number two team in the country but we're good enough beat you guys twice this season.

And we are good enough to beat you two times this season.... who cares until we play? The whole purpose to this thread (I think) was texas got exposed today (and to en extent we have the past 2 games even though we won). Dook probably would have exposed us too (but I think we would have done a better job of making sure somebody was on reddick... i really was suprised how open tu's guards left him)

CaliHornia

12-10-2005, 07:33 PM

And we are good enough to beat you two times this season.... who cares until we play? The whole purpose to this thread (I think) was texas got exposed today (and to en extent we have the past 2 games even though we won). Dook probably would have exposed us too (but I think we would have done a better job of making sure somebody was on reddick... i really was suprised how open tu's guards left him)

Based on what would you say you're good enough to beat us at the FEC? We didn't look good tonight, but we're not Penn St or Grambling.

Loftin brought the point up. What I can't figure out is why you care how badly another team beat us. When did Aggies start playing against us vicariously through every team we play in every sport? Is it really that rough being on campus in Aggieland right now that you'll take a win against us through Duke?

Our teams will play and who is better will be settled on the court between the two teams.

After that is done will you do in basketball what you guys have done in football and adopt as t-shirt fans any team you think can do the job your guys can't?

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Seems a little strange you'd be getting jollies off posting a pic of a guy who was hurt. Weird.

jagowar

12-10-2005, 07:35 PM

There have been threads when tech loses too (Tech lost (http://www.aggiefans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4894))....same for baylor but they cant lose yet).... today it was your turn and I expect when we lose there will be threads on all the sip boards. This forum is for all basketball not just aggie basketball.

and face it the #1 vs #2 thing has been hyped by the media outlets for a while so you really didnt expect any "talk" when you got "schooled"?

Loftin

12-10-2005, 07:38 PM

I didn't watch the game, Calihornia, I was at the A&M game. The pic looks to me like a Longhorn crying, and the caption didn't say anything about an injury.

And yes, the point of this thread was that Texas was exposed. Texas is barely good enough to be in the top 25, yet the media puts them at #2. I love when truth prevails.

cyanide

12-10-2005, 07:40 PM

That guy looks like his poon was smashed by a large sausage. haha

CaliHornia

12-10-2005, 07:57 PM

I didn't watch the game, Calihornia, I was at the A&M game. The pic looks to me like a Longhorn crying, and the caption didn't say anything about an injury.

Well, he got hurtl.

And yes, the point of this thread was that Texas was exposed. Texas is barely good enough to be in the top 25, yet the media puts them at #2. I love when truth prevails.

We've beaten two ranked teams. One that is still #13 in the country. Barely good enough to be in the top 25? Thing is, after reading everything you said about your football team after beating up on teams like SMU and edging SWTSU (you guys were going places!) I think you might actually believe this stuff.

This is why you're having such a hard time with us in the Rose Bowl, playing for the national title. You're not dealing in reality.

The truth will prevail twice this season when we play.

I expect when we lose there will be threads on all the sip boards.

Nah. We don't really care. You guys have a good team that plays hard and a coach I like. I think, like me, most of us care if we beat you, but we really don't care who else does.

phatbc

12-10-2005, 08:02 PM

That guy looks like his poon was smashed by a large sausage

according to AP, you are right.

East Rutherford, N.J. (AP) -- As crushing as the loss was to Duke, Texas suffered another major setback. Brad Buckman, 22, went down in the game after apparently getting his poon smashed by a large sausage. The large sausage was non other than J.J. Redick's

Loftin

12-10-2005, 11:22 PM

Hard time with the Rose Bowl? Ha! I've had two poor souls already bet me that Texas wins straight up. That's easy money for me.

USC - 66
texas - 6

Vlyrock

12-11-2005, 02:15 AM

Calihornia...I don't root against Texas just because I have "school-envy" or am jealous of your past successes. Basically, I root against you guys because any success you encounter from here on out directly impacts Texas A&M. Beating #1 Duke would've done well for:

1) your seeding in March (which doesn't so much affect A&M)
2) your recruiting around the country (which greatly affects A&M).

Don't feel like your team is special and we root just against you. After Texas got blown out, I watched and rooted for the Zags to come back and beat OSU. I know this is all out of conference, but I can't root for another Big XII team...I just can't.

Loftin

12-11-2005, 02:24 AM

A lot of people are like Vly, but not me. I like other Big XII teams to do well in non-conference play, because it helps our SOS. However, A&M's arch-rival in recruiting and more importantly in general, is Texas. I hate texas U and hope they lose every game.

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Vlyrock

12-11-2005, 02:25 AM

I felt that way for a while Loftin...but any big wins for schools in the Big XII hurts A&M. When it comes down to two teams and one spot in March...the team with the "big wins" usually gets the spot. That hurt A&M last year...and if OSU and Texas can not get them, more power to A&M. It all comes down to conference play, but if they don't have that as leverage...it's an advantage they don't have.

CaliHornia

12-11-2005, 03:00 AM

Hard time with the Rose Bowl? Ha! I've had two poor souls already bet me that Texas wins straight up. That's easy money for me.

USC - 66
texas - 6

Your knowledge of football is bad, bad, bad. You thought your team was good this year. You thought beating SMU meant something. Some of the crap you said had us rolling over at bofz.

Either your mind is totally clouded by the kool-aide or you just don't know football.

I'd advise you though if you're not rich to lay off gambling on football based on what I've seen of your ability to predict things.

CaliHornia

12-11-2005, 03:06 AM

Don't feel like your team is special and we root just against you. After Texas got blown out, I watched and rooted for the Zags to come back and beat OSU. I know this is all out of conference, but I can't root for another Big XII team...I just can't.

Nah, we're special.

You don't get Ags predicting us to have a three loss season this year (which was all over Texags in the preseason) unless you've got it really bad for us.

You can act like it's just because of recruiting, or whatever, but that's not it. OU dominated us for a pretty good run, got a national title, had a few more chances at it, stole a few recruits. . .now look who is smiling. If you guys had a one loss season this year, your recruiting would be fine. It isn't what we're doing that's hurting your program, it's whatever Fran's doing.

The only thing keeping you guys down is stuff internal to A&M, whatever it is.

Vlyrock

12-11-2005, 03:17 AM

Nah, we're special.

You don't get Ags predicting us to have a three loss season this year (which was all over Texags in the preseason) unless you've got it really bad for us.

You can act like it's just because of recruiting, or whatever, but that's not it. OU dominated us for a pretty good run, got a national title, had a few more chances at it, stole a few recruits. . .now look who is smiling. If you guys had a one loss season this year, your recruiting would be fine. It isn't what we're doing that's hurting your program, it's whatever Fran's doing.

The only thing keeping you guys down is stuff internal to A&M, whatever it is.

All the above may be true...but why is that coming into play???...this is a basketball thread...

On to the three loss football season (it was a possibility...Ohio State, OU, and us)...it's not like it was a huge stretch. It just didn't happen that way. Talk sports and quit trying to prove how much everyone here has a hard-on for Texas...cause I promise you won't get an admission from anybody and it gets tiring reading the same type of post over and over...

Loftin

12-11-2005, 03:39 AM

Loftin

12-11-2005, 04:01 AM

Your knowledge of football is bad, bad, bad. You thought your team was good this year. You thought beating SMU meant something. Some of the crap you said had us rolling over at bofz.

Either your mind is totally clouded by the kool-aide or you just don't know football.

I'd advise you though if you're not rich to lay off gambling on football based on what I've seen of your ability to predict things.

I actually ended up winning $160 this year by betting on college football, and it would have been huge if I hadn't had an awful last 3 weeks of the season. I will get $40 on January 4th(20 from a roommate and 20 from a friend) when USC beats the hell out of Texas.

USC has an unstoppable offense, and Texas can't stop them(if Stephen McGee and Javorskie Lane can each rush over 100 yards in the same game, what could Reggie Bush and LenDale White do?). Texas would have to play a perfect game just to keep it close. Texas has 11 INT and 31 fumbles this year, as well as 95 penalties for 818 yards. Texas just doesn't have what it takes to compete with USC.

Vlyrock

12-11-2005, 02:07 PM

Your knowledge of football is bad, bad, bad. You thought your team was good this year. You thought beating SMU meant something. Some of the crap you said had us rolling over at bofz.

Either your mind is totally clouded by the kool-aide or you just don't know football.

I'd advise you though if you're not rich to lay off gambling on football based on what I've seen of your ability to predict things.

Also, optimism about your team is different than football knowledge. Like the post above, look up my old betting posts...I consistenly had winning weeks and finished around the 65% percentile over the season....that requires some pretty good football knowledge. Just because I root for a team that had a losing season (or am optimistic they can win one they ended up not winning) doesn't imply a lack of football knowledge.

CaliHornia

12-11-2005, 03:29 PM

I actually ended up winning $160 this year by betting on college football, and it would have been huge if I hadn't had an awful last 3 weeks of the season. I will get $40 on January 4th(20 from a roommate and 20 from a friend) when USC beats the hell out of Texas.

USC has an unstoppable offense, and Texas can't stop them(if Stephen McGee and Javorskie Lane can each rush over 100 yards in the same game, what could Reggie Bush and LenDale White do?). Texas would have to play a perfect game just to keep it close. Texas has 11 INT and 31 fumbles this year, as well as 95 penalties for 818 yards. Texas just doesn't have what it takes to compete with USC.

If you've won any money, it's just been by accident -- probably betting on what everyone recognizes are the better teams.

You thought your team would be Baylor by 70 points. You thought you guys were going to a bowl game. No one who knew anything about college football would have said these things after the SWTSU game. The problem is, you like all Aggies have had too much cool-aide and you're way too impressed with the one or two times a year Fran gets a hold of a team and runs the score up to get the heat off. He knows that the current crop of Aggies is satisfied beating on nobodies, hence your schedule next year.

And, I can just as easily say that if Fresno State (a team that lost two games in the WAC, one to lowly Nevada) can almost beat USC, we can too.

I would not draw too much from how you guys played against us. It was our worst game of the year, and we were due a bad performance, and we did not gameplan as we should have for the option. Everyone would tell you that. We still beat you by 11 points in your house. The good news was that our team can just show up and beat you guys this year.

I hope you've got your hopes up for McGee's Heisman season next year. By the end of one game running that option he was having trouble walking. So I hope you enjoy him for the three or four games he actually be able to play in.

CaliHornia

12-11-2005, 03:34 PM

USC has an unstoppable offense

LOL. If ND, one of the worst defenses in college football this year, almost as bad as yours, can hold them to 34 points with a very fortuitous last second TD, I'm sure we can, too. And if Fresno State and Arizona can put up points on them, we can, too.

USC scores a lot of garbage time points. You know you haven't even watched them play this year, except maybe once or twice. So why are you acting like you know so much about them? You're just repeating what you hear other people on tv say about them.

CaliHornia

12-11-2005, 03:38 PM

On to the three loss football season (it was a possibility...Ohio State, OU, and us)...it's not like it was a huge stretch.

Actually, it was. The only team up there that even came close was tOSU.

OU wasn't close and everyone who knew anything knew it wouldn't be given what they had coming back and the fact that Stoops was losing his players mentally.

And while you guys gave us a decent game, I knew we'd be able to do what it took to win, whatever it was. We still beat you by 11. That's not really a very close game when it's all said and done.

Loftin

12-11-2005, 03:52 PM

pabloknight

12-11-2005, 04:41 PM

USC has an unstoppable offense..... Texas just doesn't have what it takes to compete with USC.

Guess we will see, eh? I don't exactly remember seeing USC's offense facing any top defenses this year. Besides, we have our 1 bad game this year, and still beat you, in your house. USC eeks out their bad game by 3 points. Anyway, I am optimistic of my team's chances. Just like you were prior to this season. :p :rolleyes:

I'll be back Jan. 5 to gloat (or to eat crow in the worst case scenario).
Hey, that reminds me, which one of ya'll bet that we couldn't beat OU and A&M this year?

Vlyrock

12-11-2005, 04:50 PM

That was me. Remember, it was Aggiefans.com vs BOFZ.net and the loser would donate to the other's site. Just let me know where to send it and I'll pay up. I think we had said $20 (but I can look it up)...

-Vly

pabloknight

12-11-2005, 04:58 PM

CaliHornia

12-11-2005, 05:00 PM

Considering that we started the season ranked #17, I don't think "most"(if any) people thought we'd be 5-6 right now when our team was a disappointing 2-1.

Also, Baylor was much better than anybody thought they'd be this year, and A&M was much worse than anybody thought this year. The 70-point win prediction was not unfounded, especially if you consider that the 2003 Aggies(possibly the worst A&M team in my lifetime) beat them 73-10.

You were ranked #17 because the folks that vote on that stuff don't actually watch the games. They know about maybe 10 teams or so and after that they don't really care. You believed them because you don't know anything about football.

See, what was clear from your season last year was that you guys were on the verge of having a very mediocre season and were saved by a turnover margin that very likely would not be duplicated the next year because so many of them were unforced. The turnovers you guys got masked the fact that you had a really horrible defense.

And I'll go out on a limb and say that with your horrible defense a 70 point win margin would always be unfounded. For crying out loud, I don't know many Longhorns that would have predicted we'd beat anyone by that margin this year and we're a far better program (naturally some of this has to do with the fact that Mack is trying to save his job by beating up on bad teams the way Fran is).

I knew, and I told you this pretty clearly on the BOFZ, that when you guys struggled with Texas State you were done. Finished.

The talent disparity in a game like that should have been crystal clear and it wasn't. You guys struggled with a DI-AA team. The kind of programs that have games like that, even against good DIAA teams, are Indiana, Duke, etc. Not legitimate bowl teams.

You refused to believe it after that game. By that point, everyone who knew anything was off your bandwagon. There was no more dark horse talk, no nothing from anyone but Aggies that loved the SMU beatdown.

phatbc

12-11-2005, 11:25 PM

broken record keeps playing

KCAggie

12-12-2005, 01:09 AM

:confused: I'm confused....Isn't this a basketball thread????

Gigem314

12-13-2005, 10:30 PM

You've repeatedly said that we made a big deal about the SMU win, but we didn't.
It doesn't matter...don't you know that longhorns know everything? Especially about our program and fans? Nevermind what we say...only they know. ;)

texag005

12-14-2005, 12:24 AM

I would not draw too much from how you guys played against us. It was our worst game of the year, and we were due a bad performance, and we did not gameplan as we should have for the option. Everyone would tell you that.

So you didn't gameplan for the option considering that's 90% of the plays Fran called this year? Regardless of who the QB was you should've known the option was gonna be what you were gonna see. Are you sure about that one? and I accidently deleted the part where you said McGee was having trouble walking...... Is that why he got up after every play, after every hit and then went back for more? All the McGee for Heisman next season talk on here is in complete jest by anybody that mentioned it. Now if they were to say that in a few years it's a possibility, well it just might be, but i don't think anybody on this site honestly would tell you that they think McGee is gonna have a snowballs chance in hell of being mentioned in the same phrase as heisman next year

CaliHornia

12-14-2005, 01:42 AM

So you didn't gameplan for the option considering that's 90% of the plays Fran called this year? Regardless of who the QB was you should've known the option was gonna be what you were gonna see. Are you sure about that one? and I accidently deleted the part where you said McGee was having trouble walking...... Is that why he got up after every play, after every hit and then went back for more? All the McGee for Heisman next season talk on here is in complete jest by anybody that mentioned it. Now if they were to say that in a few years it's a possibility, well it just might be, but i don't think anybody on this site honestly would tell you that they think McGee is gonna have a snowballs chance in hell of being mentioned in the same phrase as heisman next year

Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

We didn't gameplan specifically for Tech--Chizik said so. We just ran our base defense.

If we didn't do anything special for them I can pretty well guarantee you we didn't game plan for you.

It was a coaching mistake not to better prepare for that. Mack later said he didn't expect McGee to run the option that well. In any event, despite his heroic efforts and your outstanding recruiting classes, you guys took another one on the chin. Chizik and co. did enough.

And I'm talking about the end of the game where he was very obviously hurting. He limped. Those last couple of plays you could tell he'd had it. Maybe by that time it was too late, but he was hurt.

I'm telling you right now--that kid will not make it through an entire season if Fran tries to run an option based offense next year. It will not happen. He had a lot of adrenalin in him against us, but that won't be flowing every game. And whether it does or not, the bruises from Saturday aren't going to heal by the next week.

texag005

12-14-2005, 11:53 AM

Yeah I totally agree with you finally. If we try to run the same damn option stuff all year, he won't make it without some kind of injury. I don't think any QB could make it without getting injured, if even just a slight injury. The difference is that he's a warrior and he is a tough SOB, and unless his bones are sticking out of his legs or his shoulder doesn't move, i bet he'll be trying to get on that field to play.

I can't believe your coaches wouldn't gameplan at all for another team. If they did, more power to them, but that just doesn't seem like it's feasible no matter how much that's what they say. I didn't get to watch the tech game, but i'm sure they gameplanned for them. I mean to gameplan means to set out a scheme that you think will work against a team. To change the defense which is what you're saying they didn't do, and they probably didn't b/c i didn't watch the game, but that is completely different. I mean if your CB's could press and bump the tech receivers off their routes then you wouldn't need to change the defense. It still baffles me though that a defensive coordinator would be so cocky as to think he didn't need to make any adjustments to his defense. That being said, it definately worked so far this season, but I hope he keeps not making changes when ya'll play SC, b/c then it is gonna get ugly.

CaliHornia

12-14-2005, 02:40 PM

I can't believe your coaches wouldn't gameplan at all for another team. If they did, more power to them, but that just doesn't seem like it's feasible no matter how much that's what they say. I didn't get to watch the tech game, but i'm sure they gameplanned for them. I mean to gameplan means to set out a scheme that you think will work against a team. To change the defense which is what you're saying they didn't do, and they probably didn't b/c i didn't watch the game, but that is completely different. I mean if your CB's could press and bump the tech receivers off their routes then you wouldn't need to change the defense. It still baffles me though that a defensive coordinator would be so cocky as to think he didn't need to make any adjustments to his defense. That being said, it definately worked so far this season, but I hope he keeps not making changes when ya'll play SC, b/c then it is gonna get ugly.

That's Chizik. He believed in his defense.

If you look at how we played Tech, you'll see that it was the same way we've played everyone. Nobody beats us on a long play. Our DB's keep everything in front of them and they don't give much cushion. Consequently, Tech got their yards, but it took them a lot of plays at the risk of turning the ball over to get down the field.

We may have run a couple of blitz packages at them you wouldn't see much the rest of the year, but it was nothing really special.

Robinson showed Texas how you beat Tech--you knock the fool out of their receivers whether they catch the ball or not and you keep them in front of you.

Against you guys, if McNeal plays or McGee plays like McNeal, our game isn't close. What killed us was the punishment that McGee was willing to take to run that option. He was getting drilled. To his credit, he did get up (until the very end there where I know he was hurting, though I believe that was the result of a sack). When that happens, one of two things usually results. The QB will start pitching it earlier, meaning the guys on the outside don't have to commit, making the option easier to stop or the coach's conscience will get to him.

Neither of those happened against you guys.

My guess is that Chizik and Mack just didn't believe there was anything special enough about McGee and the way he ran the option to plan for that specifically. They were wrong, but we still won anyway and our defense came up with what we needed when we had to have it.

They will gameplan for USC. I think what you have seen offensively and defensively from Texas since USC has been what we have needed to win and not a bit more.