Reggie vs. Vince stats

[Loftin]

Now that both teams have played 3 games, here are the stats for the two players:

Reggie McNeal:
286 Yards Rushing(95.33 per game)
776 Yards Passing(258.67 per game)
1 INT
36-64(53.13% completion)
8 TD Passes
1 Rushing TD

Vince Young:
202 Yards Rushing(67.33 Per Game)
544 Yards Passing(181.33 Per Game)
4 INT
39-60(65% Completion)
5 TD Passes
1 Rushing TD

[texag005]

Hmmmm, yet vince young is the big time Heisman cadidate? Interesting how the liberal media seems to think gameplay isn't important or something, b/c they don't seem to be talking much about Reggie.

[pabloknight]

Hmmmm, yet vince young is the big time Heisman cadidate? Interesting how the liberal media seems to think gameplay isn't important or something, b/c they don't seem to be talking much about Reggie.
Yeah, how 'bout that stellar passing performance from Reggie against Clemson?

I don't think Vince will win the Heisman. I'd like to see it, sure. But all he does is give us a chance to win every game. Not always pretty, but he has figured out how to win the big ones. (If you don't believe, see Mich and tOSU) Once we get the OU monkey gone, the only thing left is the return march to the Rose Bowl.

Now, how did your Heisman-worthy QB fare in his last bowl game, and against your one ranked opponent this year?
Beating up on creampuffs will pad your stats, but you have to beat the big boys to get the recognition.
Reggie could have gotten it with a win at Clemson.

[Pflugerville Ag]

If Reggie can pass for 200-250 and run for 50-100 on average and we beat t.u., he will be in NYC.

[Vlyrock]

Yeah, how 'bout that stellar passing performance from Reggie against Clemson?

I don't think Vince will win the Heisman. I'd like to see it, sure. But all he does is give us a chance to win every game. Not always pretty, but he has figured out how to win the big ones. (If you don't believe, see Mich and tOSU) Once we get the OU monkey gone, the only thing left is the return march to the Rose Bowl.

Now, how did your Heisman-worthy QB fare in his last bowl game, and against your one ranked opponent this year?
Beating up on creampuffs will pad your stats, but you have to beat the big boys to get the recognition.
Reggie could have gotten it with a win at Clemson.

I only have to say -- the season's just beginning. Big XII play starts and a lot of questions will be answered over the next few weeks (especially when Aggiefans gets $20 for an OU or A&M win over Texas). ;)

VY had as many creampuffs to statpad against and he's not up there, so can't blame the stats on that.

[pabloknight]

If Reggie can pass for 200-250 and run for 50-100 on average and we beat t.u., he will be in NYC.
I would agree.
But since ya'll will be 0-6 against us (that's 6 in a row) after T+1 this year..... :p ....we're not too worried about it.

[pabloknight]

I only have to say -- the season's just beginning. Big XII play starts and a lot of questions will be answered over the next few weeks (especially when Aggiefans gets $20 for an OU or A&M win over Texas). ;)

VY had as many creampuffs to statpad against and he's not up there, so can't blame the stats on that.

vly, make sure you iron that $20 bill out nice and crisp. Last night's game doesn't have me worried. ;)

[Pflugerville Ag]

You've got a choice Pablo. The last time we beat you, you beat OU. So, that means that UT does not have the ability to beat both A&M and OU in the same year. Its your choice. Who do you beat?

[pabloknight]

Good question. I can't believe that a I-AA offensive coordinator out coached a I-A defensive coordinator. I think last night had very little to do with our players. I lay most (not all) of blame on Torbush. Every time he called a blitz, its like SWT knew it was coming and called a perfect screen play. We made their QB look like Leinart. I wish this game would have stayed as far away from television as possible.

We'll beat OU, and your D will "give" us the other one this year. ;) :p

[Vlyrock]

Well, no...because we have a weak passing D...Vince Young's the quarterback. No problem at all for the Aggie D. :gig:

[beandip54321]

Reggie will finish the season stronger than he has started, he will make his last year count, I promise.

[85swhorns46]

I only have to say -- the season's just beginning. Big XII play starts and a lot of questions will be answered over the next few weeks (especially when Aggiefans gets $20 for an OU or A&M win over Texas). ;)

VY had as many creampuffs to statpad against and he's not up there, so can't blame the stats on that.

Not so fast there Vly. VY may have had as many cream puffs as Reg, but Vy played half games against both of them. I promise you He would have the same amount of passing and more rushing than Reg, if he played against his creampuffs like Reg did against his. He might of had another int or two, but as many yards if not more.

[JohnL]

Now that both teams have played 3 games, here are the stats for the two players:

And you played who that is even close the tOSU D?

[texag005]

85, Reggie was pulled after about 2 series of the 3 quarter against smu, so that's basically a half. His 400 yards therefore weren't compiled over the entire game. I'm not commenting on the tsu game, b/c yes it took him playing the entire game to get 400 total yards, but i'm not sure if vy could've done that. Well i take that back, if he ran for 300 and passed for 100 he could do it :gig:

[pabloknight]

Wonder what today's stats look like? :p

[Loftin]

Wonder what today's stats look like? :p

They will look like crap.

[Loftin]

Here are Reggie's stats vs. Baylor:

12-31 Passing
132 Passing Yards
2 INT
83 Rushing Yards
0 TD(rushing and passing)

My guess was right, they look like crap.

[Texas Aggie 07]

I bet his averages are higher

[texag005]

Hey I'll give Vince some credit, this was the first game in his career where he's thrown for over 200 yards and not thrown 2 interceptions. Congrats on a milestone improvement :p

[phatbc]

well reggie is way better looking than vince....<cough> i mean err....he's way cooler

[Texas Aggie 07]

well reggie is way better looking than vince....<cough> i mean err....he's way cooler
that gets a 7.3 on the Gaydar scale :undecided

[dre1222]

Reggie looks different out of uniform.
http://www.aceconference.org/Reggie%20McNeal.jpg

[dre1222]

But yes, reggie is better looking than vince.

[UTHornExpress]

If Reggie can pass for 200-250 and run for 50-100 on average and we beat t.u., he will be in NYC.


aggy manages to beat Baylor by 3 and you want to beat UT!

Classic stuff.

[dre1222]

Of course we want to. And if the team actually shows up to play, we can. However, with the way we've been playing lately, we will get creamed. Only time will tell.

[CHHS_Aggie]

aggy manageso beat Baylor by 3 and you want to beat UT!

Classic stuff.

That is classic stuff. You know we have a shelf here at Aggiefans for classic stuff like that. We'll put that right next to "Simms 4 Heisman, Roy Williams 4 Heisman, Benson 4 Heisman" I think it will fit in nicely.

[Texas Aggie 07]

what about benson for heisman?

[CHHS_Aggie]

what about benson for heisman?

Oh my bad I'll edit it.

[texag005]

aggy manages to beat Baylor by 3 and you want to beat UT!

Classic stuff.


So you're logic is that since we played probably the worst game imaginable offensively and yes barely squeaked by baylor, that we shouldn't "want to beat" tu? Give me an explanation of why barely beating a team should make us think any different of our undying burn to BEAT THE HELL OUTTA tu? Oh yeah you don't have any logic in your correspondence left here, all you do is shoot nonsense out of your mouth.

[redraider217]

reggie has thrown more than 1 pick....he threw two against baylor alone.

and texas has played the likes of mizzou and osu.....to tamus txst and baylor.

[Vlyrock]

So reggie's got 3 on the season?...it's not quite the 5 that VY has.

VY has 780 passing yards (54-82 passing) with 7 passing td's and 5 int's.
Vince has 310 rushing yards on 48 attempts, 2 TD's

Reggie has 908 passing yards (48-95 passing) with 8 passing td's and 3 int's
Reggie has 369 rushing yards on 38 attempts, 1 TD

[JohnL]

Yet you are not ranked.

I think the different in stats shows that VY is on the better team and does not have to carry the whole load anymore. Reggie's stats look better because he does not have the supporting cast that VY is lucky enough have.
IMHO anyway

[CHHS_Aggie]

http://x1.putfile.com/10/27419561726.gif

"Oh stop it you meanies"

[JohnL]

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are. :)

[texag005]

This might sound like just another Aggie complaining, but I honestly think that the reason VY is getting all the hype is b/c tu has the connections in the media and in the journalism circles. And we all know that the media and the newspapers is who really counts in this country, not the people that actually know about football.


Ok that sounds bad, I'm not saying VY isn't a good player, nothing of the sort, when i say hype i'm just saying that he gets more exposure and attention, even though his numbers are slightly less than Reggie's. I think that ya'll have a much better defense at this point in time than we do and that helps VY a lot too. Offensively skill position wise, I think we are basically even at RB, but I think we've got a better set of WR's than ya'll do. But that's just my opinion.

[Vlyrock]

Yet you are not ranked.


We also didn't start #2 in the pre-season polls. I'm not trying to take away from Texas -- but it's ridiculous we dropped from #17 to out with a 1 point loss on a last second field goal ON THE ROAD @ Clemson.

But teams like Purde and others that lose stay in the rankings.

[texag005]

We also didn't start #2 in the pre-season polls. I'm not trying to take away from Texas -- but it's ridiculous we dropped from #17 to out with a 1 point loss on a last second field goal ON THE ROAD @ Clemson.

But teams like Purde and others that lose stay in the rankings.


Could it be that there really is a media bias out there? ;)

[Vlyrock]

i still think polls are the most retarded way to determine a championship game...

Let 'em prove it on the field (i.e. playoffs like every other freakin' sport in the world)

[jagowar]

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are. :)

http://aggiefans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3362

that one is better...

[redraider217]

well reggie may have better stats......but he does not have the supporting cast, the supporting defense, etc. that texas has

but while were comparing stats...... :)

Hodges is 114of 158 for 1450 ....13TD 2INT
thats a 72% completion rating with 9.2 yards per play

even after being sacked 8 times this year, hodges still has 49 yards on teh ground with 2 rushing scores....one for 17 and one for 5

[UTHornExpress]

We also didn't start #2 in the pre-season polls. I'm not trying to take away from Texas -- but it's ridiculous we dropped from #17 to out with a 1 point loss on a last second field goal ON THE ROAD @ Clemson.

But teams like Purde and others that lose stay in the rankings.


I don't think it was the one point loss to Clemson that keeps the aggys out of the rankings it is their poor performance against lower caliber teams that does. anm is not even close to being the same caliber of team TEXAS is.

[phatbc]

anm is not even close to being the same caliber of team TEXAS is

at this point, I don't care. We have the goods to pull out wins even when we play crappy. If we get firing on all cylinders we can do it (if that ever happens). Actually, as long as we just get firing on all cylinders the last regular season game of the season. I would like to see the lower caliber aggies beat the mighty tu.

[UTHornExpress]

at this point, I don't care. We have the goods to pull out wins even when we play crappy. If we get firing on all cylinders we can do it (if that ever happens). Actually, as long as we just get firing on all cylinders the last regular season game of the season. I would like to see the lower caliber aggies beat the mighty tu.


(if that ever happens). That's one hell of an "if", if your grandma had balls she'd be your grandpa kind of thing!

[dre1222]

Yes, we will never again beat tu. We bow down to the mighty Texas.

[UTHornExpress]

Yes, we will never again beat tu. We bow down to the mighty Texas.


Without a doubt, you should!

[sawemoff56]

No you should face the truth that reggie is a much better quarterback. If texas beats aTm it will only be because of our defense and dome defensive cordinators.

[sawemoff56]

Cut it out meanies that was hilarious. truth hurts

[sawemoff56]

Thats freaking hilarios man. cause vince is pretty gay

[phatbc]

Thats freaking hilarios man. cause vince is pretty gay

hey thats not very nice. Vince isn't pretty. No but seriously football is all about looks and Vince is definitely failing miserably there.

AGAIN...lets clarify this:
VY is a better leader and proven winner
RM is a better quarterback

There really is no arguement. "Next song, Next song," Jack Black.

[texag005]

AGAIN...lets clarify this:
VY is a better leader and proven winner
RM is a better quarterback

There really is no arguement. "Next song, Next song," Jack Black.


Phat hits the nail on the head! And i'm gonna add that Reggie will always be a better quarterback and can develop leadership skills and his ability to be a proven winner. If you have flawed quarterback mechanics, and just not the same god given ability to fling the ball like Reggie does, it's a lot harder to become a better QB, than it is for somebody to develop a persona as a proven winner.

[Dustin00whoop]

Phat hits the nail on the head! And i'm gonna add that Reggie will always be a better quarterback and can develop leadership skills and his ability to be a proven winner. If you have flawed quarterback mechanics, and just not the same god given ability to fling the ball like Reggie does, it's a lot harder to become a better QB, than it is for somebody to develop a persona as a proven winner.

See David Carr & that jacked up throwing motion.

[pabloknight]

and can develop leadership skills and his ability to be a proven winner. .... than it is for somebody to develop a persona as a proven winner.
Then how f-ing long is it gonna take Reggie to develop into a proven winner? :mad: You guys have run out of time. :p

[Texas Aggie 07]

I hope it happens this weekend

[texag005]

A college career is not eternity. Reggie will have the rest of this season and his hopefully illustrious career in the NFL. I was not insinuating that all that development by either guy had to be in college. I think Reggie definately has a better shot at being a productive QB in the NFL than vy. vy's lob throws and short routes are gonna get picked off even more in the NFL than they do now, and that's gotta be scary for whoever his offensive coordinator is. I'm not saying he can't be a good QB in the NFL, I just think Reggie has a better shot at it.

[CHHS_Aggie]

I think with Vinces size and speed, he'll be a Matt Jones in the NFL-----Wide Receiver.

[Loftin]

I think with Vinces size and speed, he'll be a Matt Jones in the NFL-----Wide Receiver.

Vince Young = Matt Jones in NFL, Bethel Johnson if he's lucky

Reggie McNeal = Aaron Brooks in NFL, Donovan McNabb if he's lucky

[pabloknight]

A college career is not eternity. Reggie will have the rest of this season and his hopefully illustrious career in the NFL. I was not insinuating that all that development by either guy had to be in college. I think Reggie definately has a better shot at being a productive QB in the NFL than vy. vy's lob throws and short routes are gonna get picked off even more in the NFL than they do now, and that's gotta be scary for whoever his offensive coordinator is. I'm not saying he can't be a good QB in the NFL, I just think Reggie has a better shot at it.

Based on the tools they have, I would agree that Reggie is a more proto-type NFL qb prospect than Vince is.
I only made my point as is to show how you guys flip-flop back and forth about how great a college QB Reggie is, but then it's "no, he will be a great NFL qb"...
Reggie has the tools. But face it, he has not won but one Big one since he's been at A&M. And yes, it was a good one.

[texag005]

You're absolutely right, I'm not saying he is ever going to have the record that VY has. I think a great deal of VY's record has been the talent that he's had around him for the 3 years he's played. I think if Reggie had the same talent and defensive prowess that you guys had some of those years, we're in a lot better position than we are right now, maybe with Reggie in the NFL, but what if's will be what if's. I think they are both great college QB's, and both could possibly be great NFL QB's. I just think that the situation will be flipped in the NFL with Reggie being the one that receives most of the attention of the two. It's all speculation right now though, both of them could also suck a fat one in the NFL.

[sawemoff56]

I agree i wasn't trying to cut vince. Im just tird of people saying that he has a future at quarterback. He is a talented quarterback but in the nfl he is gonna be areciever. I appologize if i was cutting him down. I just thinking reggie is just as good of a leader as VY. And chhs I think with time he can be just as good as Mcnabb.

[TomballAg]

Vince is a winner, he has beaten A&M, Michigan and Ohio St. recently. Reggie has struggled against Texas, Tennessee, Clemson and Baylor. They are both great athletes, Vince finds a way to get it done.

[jagowar]

Vince is a winner, he has beaten A&M, Michigan and Ohio St. recently. Reggie has struggled against Texas, Tennessee, Clemson and Baylor. They are both great athletes, Vince finds a way to get it done.

and the defnese has had nothing to do with that? texas is lightyears ahead of us on the defensive side of the ball still.

[texag005]

Vince finds a way to get it done.

He has also had a lot better players around him. VY is a good player, not taking it away from him. I'm just saying he's had a lot more support than Reggie.

[CHHS_Aggie]

He has also had a lot better players around him. VY is a good player, not taking it away from him. I'm just saying he's had a lot more support than Reggie.

Sure has had a lot better o-line

[phatbc]

Sure has had a lot better o-line

o-line is the most valuable, it'll open up lanes for a running qb, and buy way more time for the pass. VY definitely has that huge benefit.

[TomballAg]

I never said Texas did not have a better defense. The discussion was about VY vs. RM only. There no question that Texas has much better talent on both sides of the ball than A&M right now. I doubt there are more than two Ags that would even start for Texas (Carter and Appel maybe).

My point is that VY makes plays in big games to win them. RM has not done that since OU a very long time ago.

[texag005]

Yeah but that's our point I think. We're saying that Reggie hasn't been put in the position to make big plays b/c of the lack of talent and defense. You can only make those big plays if you have a defense that can keep you in the game. In the cu game last year, Reggie drove us down the field for the FG, and then in the baylor game this past weekend, he had a crappy game, but he drove down the field and made plays when he needed too. Sure he hasn't been as consistent as vy, but again, vy has had a lot more opportunity b/c of his surrounding players.

[sawemoff56]

My thing is switch the two players. Put VY with the aggie o-line and defense, do you think he can still produce like he does?

[TomballAg]

Of course it's all hypothetical but off the top of my head VY as QB of the Aggies means the Ags do not lose to Baylor last year and struggle mightily this year. VY is much more decisive at deciding to run and is a better open-field runner. He forces defenses to adjust to him.

[sawemoff56]

I'm sorry reggie is a much better runner. And who's faster again

[TomballAg]

Reggie may be faster on the track but VY plays faster and makes much better open-field moves.

[texag005]

Yeah Tomball, VY does have a lot better open field moves. The thing with Reggie is, that he has such explosiveness going from not much speed to poof he's gone that he doesn't need to jukes and what not to be evasive. He gets going and then makes a small shoulder move or something and the guy he's trying to fake out is already 2 steps behind him. I do however agree with you that vy is definately a better open field runner but i have to respectfully disagree that vy is faster on the field than reggie, pure speed wise.

The thing about vy seeming to make quicker decision about running vs passing is that I think that Reggie has a lot better passer skills than vy and his routes are probably more complexed and take longer to develop b/c he can put the ball in tighter places than vy. I think Fran has a lot to do with Reggie seeming to stay in the pocket b/c he is a pass then run QB, where as i believe vy is a we're gonna make you stop him running and then if you do that, we'll throw the ball.

[sawemoff56]

Thats what I meant to say he just sayed it alot better.

[TomballAg]

Excellent discussion texag2005. While I'm not sure which of the two offenses contains more complex pass routes I do see your points about Reggie and VY.

We are very fortunate to have both of these tremendous athletes stay in state to play their college ball. We may disagree on a few of the finer points that each brings to the table but I'm sure we both agree about how talented they both are.

[85swhorns46]

where as i believe vy is a we're gonna make you stop him running and then if you do that, we'll throw the ball.
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I don't know he's been staying in the pocket a lot more than I thought he would. I think that is a sign of him growing up. He is realizing that he stays healthier if he can wait for the pass. I thought at the begging of the year he would do every game like the mich game last year, but he hasn't. He continues to throw for 200+ yards, and is getting better at it every week. Now don't think I am trying to say that is his main threat, but I am saying he isn't running like he has, and isn't passing like he has either. If he stays through his senior year (he has said he will) He is going to be one B@d@ss player.

[texag005]

I've actually noticed that about him too this year. He looked good saturday, even though his throwing motion still drives me insane for some reason, but what can I say he looked damn good saturday while our QB with his supposed superior overall QB skills looked like crap.

[85swhorns46]

I really don't know what it is. One reason might be that he actually has a few WR that can catch. That and that he realizes that those runs he has made on 3rd and 30 and 4th and 18 were great, but there is going to be a time when he goes for it and falls short. And faliure is what scares him the most. He wants to go for the sure thing, and Passing at the time is a sure thing.

[JohnL]

Up to date stats for yesterday and Year to Date.
Can some one explain to me with the stats so close how Reggie's QB rating is so much higher than VY's? I'm not looking for a flame here, but I'd really like to know.

Reggie McNeal:
18-27
262 Yards
3 TD-1 INT
150 Yards rushing
1 rushing TD

Vince Young:
25-29
336
2 TD – no INT
58 Yards rushing
3 rushing TD

YTD-VY / RMcN
Passing
CMP 93 / CMP 76
ATT 138 / ATT 142
YDS 1357 / YDS 1317
CMP% 67.4 / CMP% 53.5
YPA 9.83 / YPA 9.28
TD 12 / TD 11
INT 5 INT 4
RAT 113.1 / RAT 151.4
Rushing
CAR 75 / CAR 55
YDS 413 / YDS 505
YPC 5.5 / YPC 9.2
TD 5 / TD 2

[texag005]

Well if Reggie had a few receivers that actually lived up to their potential and caught the ball with consitency, he might have a few more passing yards, but he might also decide he wants to be a ballerina. Who knows?

[Vlyrock]

I'm not sure why the ratings are different. Are yards per completion included in the equation? That's a big difference between the two considering Reggie has less completions (17) but only 40 less yards.

[JohnL]

Yeah, I took those off the Espn stats site, so I don;t know if they are real or not. I just thought it looked strange for the similar numbers.

[Vlyrock]

Yeah, I don't know -- have you searched for the formula for QB rating?

[Texas Aggie 07]

Four categories are used as a basis for compiling a rating:

Percentage of completions per attempt
Average yards gained per attempt
Percentage of touchdown passes per attempt
Percentage of interceptions per attempt

[Texas Aggie 07]

The average standard is 1.000. The bottom is .000. To earn a 2.000 rating, a passer must perform at exceptional levels, i.e., 70 percent in completions, 10 percent in touchdowns, 1.5 percent in interceptions, and 11 yards average gain per pass attempt. The maximum a passer can receive in any category is 2.375.

For example, to gain a 2.375 in completion percentage, a passer would have to complete 77.5 percent of his passes. The NFL record is 70.55 by Ken Anderson (Cincinnati, 1982). To earn a 2.375 in percentage of touchdowns, a passer would have to achieve a percentage of 11.9. The record is 13.9 by Sid Luckman (Chicago, 1943). To gain 2.375 in percentage of interceptions, a passer would have to go the entire season without an interception. The 2.375 figure in average yards is 12.50, compared with the NFL record of 11.17 by Tommy O'Connell (Cleveland, 1957).

In order to make the rating more understandable, the point rating is then converted into a scale of 100, with 158.3 being the highest rating a passer can achieve. In cases where statistical performance has been superior, it is possible for a passer to surpass a 100 rating. For example, take Steve Young's record-setting season in 1994 when he completed 324 of 461 passes for 3,969 yards, 35 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions.

The four calculations would be:

Percentage of Completions-324 of 461 is 70.28 percent. Subtract 30 from the completion percentage (40.28) and multiply the result by 0.05. The result is a point rating of 2.014.
Note: If the result is less than zero (Comp. Pct. less than 30.0), award zero points. If the results are greater than 2.375 (Comp. Pct. greater than 77.5), award 2.375.

Average Yards Gained Per Attempt-3,969 yards divided by 461 attempts is 8.61. Subtract three yards from yards-per-attempt (5.61) and multiply the result by 0.25. The result is 1.403.
Note: If the result is less than zero (yards per attempt less than 3.0), award zero points. If the result is greater than 2.375 (yards per attempt greater than 12.5), award 2.375 points.

Percentage of Touchdown Passes-35 touchdowns in 461 attempts is 7.59 percent. Multiply the touchdown percentage by 0.2. The result is 1.518.
Note: If the result is greater than 2.375 (touchdown percentage greater than 11.875), award 2.375.

Percentage of Interceptions-10 interceptions in 461 attempts is 2.17 percent. Multiply the interception percentage by 0.25 (0.542) and subtract the number from 2.375. The result is 1.833.
Note: If the result is less than zero (interception percentage greater than 9.5), award zero points.

The sum of the four steps is (2.014 + 1.403 + 1.518 + 1.833) 6.768. The sum is then divided by six (1.128) and multiplied by 100. In this case, the result is 112.8. This same formula can be used to determine a passer rating for any player who attempts at least one pass.

[JohnL]

Then what I have must be bogus.
VY has more TD's, better yards/per, with less attempts.

[Texas Aggie 07]

I would guess reggie's is off since 158 is the highest possible, and he isn't anywhere near that

[pabloknight]

I just read today that after Vince's 25 of 29 performance Saturday, his rating is 171.8, making him #4 in the country. :D

Now after reading the post above me from TexAg07, I guess there are as many QB rating matrices as there are BCS formulas.... :confused:

[Texas Aggie 07]

I guess they don't convert it to a 100 point average scale. that would be my only guess

[85swhorns46]

I almost am thinking that other teams are going to start and make vy run again. Stop putting 8 or 9 in the box and stop that pass.

[sawemoff56]

You mean stop the side-arm throw

[texag005]

side arm throw or not, he's been getting it done with a lot more consitency than our beloved QB who has a problem throwing the ball HIGH over the receivers heads. I honestly don't know whether to think the defenses tu has been playing are just making huge mistakes or whether the o coordinator in austin is just that good, b/c a few of those passes against tech, there wasn't a guy within 15 yards of the reciever and I think some offensive lineman could've made those throws.

[85swhorns46]

Ohio st has a good D we put 270 up on them.

[sawemoff56]

side arm throw or not, he's been getting it done with a lot more consitency than our beloved QB who has a problem throwing the ball HIGH over the receivers heads. I honestly don't know whether to think the defenses tu has been playing are just making huge mistakes or whether the o coordinator in austin is just that good, b/c a few of those passes against tech, there wasn't a guy within 15 yards of the reciever and I think some offensive lineman could've made those throws.

I don't think reggie has a problem throwing it over peoples head. He's doing that just fine :gig:

[texag005]

Yeah I was more or less talking about the game ya'll just played against tech where they couldn't seem to find your receivers for some reason