LOD (Scrimmage Game 1 Season 2)

[Pumchavas28]

I guess once you are out of the playoffs they give you Scrimmage Games to give you something to do....

Should be interesting I guess...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/compare_teams.pl?team1=229&team2=924 (http://goallineblitz.com/game/compare_teams.pl?team1=229&team2=924)

Seems we are facing a Western Conference Team.

I don't know about ya'll... But WINNING is WINNING, and I'd rather we all do our best to BTHO of all 3 teams they have us scheduled to Scrimmage. :gig:

[Pumchavas28]

OR.........

If we don't want to make winning a MAJOR priority but more of a 2ndary one to figuring out playing time for next season...

We could use our Scrimmages against these teams as a way to take care of out Position Battles... or use them in conjunction with 4 the 1st 4 games next season to do this also...

Thoughts???

[whitelightnin_23]

I like the idea of using the scrimmage as a way to test game plans (% pass vs % rush, etc) rather than personnel (since there is no XP benefit).

BUT, if you want to try out all 3 RBs (and put the other @ return specialist)...I wouldn't complain! ;)

[Agnlaw]

Agree. Good time to experiment. Game plans yes, but maybe experiment with player settings.

ie.,
>Have the D-line set their tackling style to force fumbles

>Have a couple of players set on "normal" play intensity

etc., that kind of thing

[Agnlaw]

OR.........

If we don't want to make winning a MAJOR priority but more of a 2ndary one to figuring out playing time for next season...

We could use our Scrimmages against these teams as a way to take care of out Position Battles... or use them in conjunction with 4 the 1st 4 games next season to do this also...

Thoughts???

Try Pug at QB!:gig:

[zrf2002]

do the players get paid for the scrimmages, earn xp and level up? i was out yesterday so i might have missed some things.....

[zrf2002]

also, i saw we have 1 home game and 2 away games for scrimmages.... does the team receive ticket and concessions revenue for the home game or is there possible revenue sharing for the scrimmages since half the teams will have 2 home games and half will have 2 away games..... i would try to look for this on the glb forum, but their forum really sucks......

[txags92]

I believe they are just like the playoff games...no per game exp. I am in favor of trying out different player settings and game plans instead of the position battles. But that is the OC in me speaking...

[Agnlaw]

I believe they are just like the playoff games...no per game exp. I am in favor of trying out different player settings and game plans instead of the position battles. But that is the OC in me speaking...

The way playing time has worked out (pretty damn equal) I don't see a reason to have the position battles again. From what I can tell, it doesn't seem to matter much who is starting .

[Pumchavas28]

Agree. Good time to experiment. Game plans yes, but maybe experiment with player settings.

ie.,
>Have the D-line set their tackling style to force fumbles

>Have a couple of players set on "normal" play intensity

etc., that kind of thing


That is a good idea...

[Pumchavas28]

The way playing time has worked out (pretty damn equal) I don't see a reason to have the position battles again. From what I can tell, it doesn't seem to matter much who is starting .
:gig: That was the initial GOAL....

This team is turning into a bunch of Manu type players, in the aspect where starting is a Non-Issue....

[Pumchavas28]

also, i saw we have 1 home game and 2 away games for scrimmages.... does the team receive ticket and concessions revenue for the home game or is there possible revenue sharing for the scrimmages since half the teams will have 2 home games and half will have 2 away games..... i would try to look for this on the glb forum, but their forum really sucks......


Nope... No cash reward for scrimmages... :sad:

But players still get paid. :)

[Agnlaw]

That is a good idea...

Cool. Tell us what you want to try & we'll set our players up accordingly. We may learn a few things.

[Pumchavas28]

For the 1st Game on Defense (txags92 can call the Offense).

I'd like to see the LB's set to cause fumbles...

I'd like to see the DB's go for the INT & be aggresive.

The D'line can also go for causing fumbles..

I'd like to see how many turnovers we can create....

[zrf2002]

i just switched ZA's and GWH's advanced tactic for coverage style to "Aggressive: go for the int frequently, even if you might get beat." will be interesting to see if we can get any more int's with this....

[txags92]

Should LBs go for interception on coverage as well? I have always had Rock set to cover close, but he always only went for INT if he had help over the top.

[txags92]

I am assuming our first scrimmage is tomorrow at noon? I will get back to you early this evening with settings for the offense. Please check in tonight or tomorrow morning before about 10am for offensive settings requests.

[Agnlaw]

i just switched ZA's and GWH's advanced tactic for coverage style to "Aggressive: go for the int frequently, even if you might get beat." will be interesting to see if we can get any more int's with this....

Dix has been modified the same way.

This will be interesting. With new custom equiment I'm also going to experiment with excessive speed. Holland is now at 60.23; Dix now at 61.84. Didn't sell their old stuff, so just in case it doesn't work out I'll be able to go back to the originals.

[Agnlaw]

Should LBs go for interception on coverage as well? I have always had Rock set to cover close, but he always only went for INT if he had help over the top.

You'll have to confirm with Pum but I think the plan is operation create turnovers. The CB's aren't strong enough tacklers to create fumbles but the inverse may not apply to LB's with respect to going for interceptions. I think LB's should also set to go for interceptions tomorrow (and, yes, the scrimmage is at noon tomorrow).

[txags92]

OK, I had a chance to do a little scouting during lunch using my phone. I may tweak this a bit, but here is the plan. We are going bombs away on offense. They only have 2 DEs on their roster and only 1 FS. They have an extra SS to backup the FS, but none of them are very high level. I plan to go really pass happy with a dose of up the gut running to keep the linebackers from helping out in pass defense (or to hurt them with the run if they try). Here is what I need from the offensive players:

OT - Set your blocking to pass blocking, put your head on a swivel and get ready to wear out a couple of DEs.

C and OGs - Set your blocking to run blocking and get ready to mow down some DTs and LBs.

TE and WR - If it isn't already, your blocking should ALWAYS be set to run blocking...because if we are passing, you should be downfield anyways. And lace up your track shoes, because we are going to try to torch them passing deep this game.

RB/QB - I don't have any idea what QB settings are available so if you let me know, I will give some advice. RBs, you know what your guys are best at...just know we will be doing alot of inside running and they will also probably see some passes thrown their way as well.

Feel free to ask questions, but that is my plan right now after some brief scouting of our opponent.

[Pumchavas28]

Should LBs go for interception on coverage as well? I have always had Rock set to cover close, but he always only went for INT if he had help over the top.


Yes! Lets see what happens...

[Pumchavas28]

OK, I had a chance to do a little scouting during lunch using my phone. I may tweak this a bit, but here is the plan. We are going bombs away on offense. They only have 2 DEs on their roster and only 1 FS. They have an extra SS to backup the FS, but none of them are very high level. I plan to go really pass happy with a dose of up the gut running to keep the linebackers from helping out in pass defense (or to hurt them with the run if they try). Here is what I need from the offensive players:

OT - Set your blocking to pass blocking, put your head on a swivel and get ready to wear out a couple of DEs.

C and OGs - Set your blocking to run blocking and get ready to mow down some DTs and LBs.

TE and WR - If it isn't already, your blocking should ALWAYS be set to run blocking...because if we are passing, you should be downfield anyways. And lace up your track shoes, because we are going to try to torch them passing deep this game.

RB/QB - I don't have any idea what QB settings are available so if you let me know, I will give some advice. RBs, you know what your guys are best at...just know we will be doing alot of inside running and they will also probably see some passes thrown their way as well.

Feel free to ask questions, but that is my plan right now after some brief scouting of our opponent.


THIS could be very interesting! :gig:

[txags92]

I agree. What I want to do with these games is examine the effects of slanting the game plan heavily in one direction and then not allowing the CPU to change it much. The end result will be to learn how well you really can pick on a player or set of players and whether or not it is possible to wear those positions out if they have insufficient depth.

In this case, their team weakness is the secondary and the lack of depth at DE. So passing alot will force the DE to be in pass rush mode alot which will hopefully wear them down. Also, with a low level SS as the backup at FS, deep passing should expose that weakness pretty easily, especially with our faster WRs taking on a slower SS playing out of position at FS. Lastly, running hard inside should pull the LBs closer to the LOS and keep them from running down WRs that beat the secondary or break tackles.

It will be a good test for our QBs to see if we can carry an offense on their throwing ability.

[txags92]

For the RBs, don't worry...I plan to do one game with a run heavy offense focused on inside running (with lots of FB action as well) and one game with a run heavy offense focused on outside running (may even throw in some QB runs). Anybody up for some short side option for old time's sake? (Just kidding!). Hopefully by the end of these scrimmages, we will learn some useful information about our strengths and weaknesses on offense.

[Pumchavas28]

This would also be a good test of Arm Strength for our QB's & Stamina for our WR's.. :gig:

I am VERY, VERY interested to see how our QB's respond... While they are similar in some areas, they are both very Different in other...

Alot like JJ & McGee in real life... This could really tell us what their limits are & how good they can perform...

Even though this 2ndary we are facing is not on the level of OKC's 2ndary, this will be a peak into finding out whether or not had we jumped on that fumble in the 4th Quarter, would we have had a serious chance at winning the game with our QB's from such a long distance from the end zone & needing a TD???

Can our WR's take this kind of game???

[Pumchavas28]

For the RBs, don't worry...I plan to do one game with a run heavy offense focused on inside running (with lots of FB action as well) and one game with a run heavy offense focused on outside running (may even throw in some QB runs). Anybody up for some short side option for old time's sake? (Just kidding!). Hopefully by the end of these scrimmages, we will learn some useful information about our strengths and weaknesses on offense.


I am anxious to see that as well... I would like to think that our O'Line is at an Elite Level... but for some reason against the Best Defenses who have ratings similar to our Defense... our O'Line struggles to plow the road & we are lucky to get 5 pancakes against the Top 4 teams in the Conference.. But against everyone else... 15 or more Pancakes seems to be the norm.

[txags92]

I think some of it may have to do with people having OL on pass blocking focus. I know you requested at about mid season that everybody put their tackles on pass blocking and let them decide for themselves what to do with their centers and guards. I had Moses Hall on pass blocking except for one game during that stretch and RAB on run blocking. If in the future scrimmages we put every OL player on run blocking and ran the ball 50-60 times, I suspect we will get a bunch of pancakes on anybody we play.

[txags92]

Another thing I am interested to see from this exercise is how intelligent the CPU is on the defensive game plan. It is hard to know for sure without knowing what their auto-correct setting is, but it will be interesting to know if it is a Tecmo Bowl type of thing where it will let you keep being successful with the same things over and over or if it will change and adapt to those plays like Madden or NCAA.

[Dustin00whoop]

I would also like to see what Tee Dee & I could do if threw the ball 75-80% of the time. ;)

[txags92]

Well watch the game tomorrow...QBs should be throwing around 80%.

[Pumchavas28]

:gig:

[Agnlaw]

Couldn't see any difference with Dix going for interceptions. He allowed 2 passes to his side but looked good otherwise. Zero PD's! 1 FumR. Also didn't see any plays where his new speed was a significant factor.

here, Dix is too slow!
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=4915155

Holland looked pretty good. Seems like the new speed is making him a deep threat.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=4915434

I'm open!
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=4913226
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=4913938
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=4914019
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=4914216
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=4915983

need to work on jumping?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=4915057
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=4915795

[txags92]

I need to go watch the game, but my first impression was that there were no big surprises. I thought we might break a few more long passes, but they are actually a pretty good team despite their lack of depth in a few areas. What the game showed me was that we could focus almost exclusively on the pass and still score plenty of points. However, the # of 3 and outs probably wears our defense out a little more.

[Pumchavas28]

The Avg Yards per pass wasn't all to high considering we were trying to go deep....

I found that odd... Especially for TD... he averaged 4 yds a pass.

Also... I tried some different Sub Setting for the defense...

I went with 98/99 for every position instead of just SS & FS... The # of plays per player seemed a bit different..

Not as balanced as I had hoped... Seems the settings we had before worked better in getting everyone closer to being even...

OR maybe I am just looking TOO close at the numbers.

[Pumchavas28]

Also considering we all went for the Fumbles & INT's... I was sad to see that we only forced 1 turnover on Defense.... :sad:

That is no different than any other game considering we average 2 or 3... (1 INT & at least 1 FFum)

[whitelightnin_23]

how many missed tackles?

[Pumchavas28]

4.

[Pumchavas28]

1 good thing I did notice... with all the pass thrown... only 1 dropped pass & that was from a RB which is ok... ZERO for the WR's & TE's..:gig:.

[whitelightnin_23]

from me... :sad:

[txags92]

I think what the average per pass tells us is that the QBs were having to check down to secondary receivers because their secondary was able to cover our deep receivers well. If we had a low percentage, I would just attribute it to that, but our completion percentage was fine.

[Pflugerville Ag]

Sweet PR TD for P-Ville that wins the game with 3 minutes left. Love the cut back he made...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=4916359

[Pumchavas28]

That was a sweet ball the blockers set up... Nice VISION by P-Ville.:gig: