LOD (Game 6, Season 2)

[Pflugerville Ag]

Time to drop the other thread and start a new one. Game 6 kicks off in 4 hours.

[Pumchavas28]

BTHO Pariahs!!!!!!!!!!!:gig:

[Agnlaw]

Here's their #1 WR (4+ receptions/game):
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=68959

He didn't hide his profile (the other WR's all have their profiles hidden). Speed is king to cover this guy (he upped his to 44 this morning... faster than any of our CB's). None of our CB's are over 41 (I had to change Dix' equipment to favor stamina) but we each have stronger special abilities.

BTHO Pariahs!!!

[Pumchavas28]

Our FS just moved up to Lvl 10 today... and our SS is a beast.... if that guy gets behind our CB, I have faith in our Safeties to make the correct plays....

:gig:

[Pumchavas28]

Also.... Only 2 players are not at 100% right now.... Pinetar & Franks... but they are both in the 90's in Energy... so when they go in, they wont be that far off in playing up to their Full Potential...

Well just say they caught the Flu... ;)

[Agnlaw]

Yes -- and I'm thinking that special abilities should help to make up the difference in speed.

[texags08]

They cant be all that deep at OL, bec they have a Lvl 15 LB in the top players...

They are fairly talented at DL, though not exceptionaly deep, this could be another tough test for our OL, or we could blow them out for 200+ on the ground...

[texags08]

I just notcied the good curve on all of the records for both leagues i am involved in... This makes me sad, it is too statistical... There wouldnt be that many undefeated teams and that many winless teams, or that many teams with the same record... If you look at each division for the two leagues, they are all dangerously close to beiong Belle curves... This takes a little of the fun out of it for me...

[Pumchavas28]

Don't know if you can watch it go down as the game is simmed... but here is the link for the page when the game does take place...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=18752&mode=pbp (http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=18752&mode=pbp)

[texags08]

:popcorn:

[zrf2002]

we lost 7-0

[zrf2002]

had 2 more int's and a lost fumble...

[Pumchavas28]

:mad::sad:

[Pflugerville Ag]

Wow, only 7 pts scored???

[Pflugerville Ag]

How did we manage only 48.5 rushing yards?

P-ville had a pretty crappy game on special teams...only averaged 24.5 on KRs and only 11.7 on 10 PRs.

[Pumchavas28]

6 Missed tackles.... :sad:

2 INT's for us to their 1....:sad:

1.6 yds per carry to their 3.2 :sad:

They out-gained us by 17yards... :sad:

This was a slug fest....

We never even got into FG range... But they did 1 more time... :sad:

[Pumchavas28]

I take that back... we got down to their 26yd Line... but INT'd.... :sad:

[Pumchavas28]

WTF.... on 4th & 2.5 we throw a 9 yard pass instead of going for the Field Goal on the last play of the half.... :mad:

F'n CPU Sim....:mad:

[ftaggie09]

G Sprott was only in on 22 plays

[Pumchavas28]

We never crossed their 40yd line after that trip to their 35 before the 1/2... :sad:

[Pflugerville Ag]

What is up with our turn overs this year? Our RBs are fumbling and our QBs are throwing INTs.

[zrf2002]

did you change the sub in/out setting after last game? there is a pretty big discrepancy in number of plays btwn starters and back ups.... BL was only in for 13 plays, mcgee only had 3, blazing sadle had 17, ed libid only had 11, etc......

[Pumchavas28]

G Sprott was only in on 22 plays


The numbers are odd.... my DT Jolly only had 19 plays when he normally gets 20+ to 30+ plays a game...

[Agnlaw]

Dixon had 6 tackles. At first, I was thinking this was bad (if they were throwing to his side), but 5 of the 6 were the same play (pitches to the HB):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2280250
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2280268
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2280798
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2282505
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2284084

They ran this exact play 11 times.

[Pumchavas28]

did you change the sub in/out setting after last game? there is a pretty big discrepancy in number of plays btwn starters and back ups.... BL was only in for 13 plays, mcgee only had 3, blazing sadle had 17, ed libid only had 11, etc......


No... the only thing I changed in the tactics was the focus....

Since they were a run Heavy team... we went 60% Run Defense & 40% Pass Defense this game....

Nothing else was changed.... From game to game... that is all if anything I change....

[ftaggie09]

yeah I usually get like 30 something plays
Just wondering if something was changed
not complaining or anything

[Pumchavas28]

Dixon had 6 tackles. At first, I was thinking this was bad (if they were throwing to his side), but 5 of the 6 were the same play (pitches to the HB):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2280250
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2280268
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2280798
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2282505
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2284084

They ran this exact play 11 times.

My Dude Bennett F'd that 1st play up... He had the DE in the back field & let him go.

[Agnlaw]

The numbers are odd.... my DT Jolly only had 19 plays when he normally gets 20+ to 30+ plays a game...

Pug got only 12 plays.:undecided: 96 energy

Holland got 69:wow: 67 energy

Dix got 48 (and made lvl 14!) finished with 76 energy :cool:

[Pumchavas28]

No... the only thing I changed in the tactics was the focus....

Since they were a run Heavy team... we went 60% Run Defense & 40% Pass Defense this game....

Nothing else was changed.... From game to game... that is all if anything I change....


Just so folks know.... when scouting the other teams... I look at Number of Pass Plays & Run Plays over their last 3 games...

This team was slanted towards their running game....

Occasionally well up the Man to Man & drop the Zone & vice versa.... but in this game it was 50/50 Man/Zone & the Defensive Focus was towards their Running game.... (Other than 1 drive) it seems to have worked...

But I don't know why the numbers are off so bad...

I know Stobie has had similar problems with his team...

[Agnlaw]

My Dude Bennett F'd that 1st play up... He had the DE in the back field & let him go.

Not like he as all alone:

on the 2nd play, Puro got juked

#3: it looked like our LBs were trying to blitz

#4: Krew Wrecker missed

#5: FC missed

That HB was just good.

[Pumchavas28]

On their TD drive.... Our Front 7 were OWNED....

Most of the Tackles were made by DB's.... :sad: I would expect that towards the end of the game, but not on the 1st drive....:sad:

[zrf2002]

Dixon had 6 tackles. At first, I was thinking this was bad (if they were throwing to his side), but 5 of the 6 were the same play (pitches to the HB):

well, they certainly did avoid passing to their wr's covered by ZAK ATTAK and dixon.... out of 54 plays for ZA, they only threw to the wr he was covering 3 times and only completed 1 pass.... i did not look at all the plays for dixon, but when ZA and dixon were in as the only cb's, they almost always threw to the tight end or the rb.... once ZA and dixon were subbed out for carpenter and fightin chicken, that is when they would throw to the wr's....

[Pumchavas28]

I noticed that also...

[Pflugerville Ag]

I have no idea what P-Ville's problem was on returns. He had open lanes all over the place, but chose to run right at people. :headslap:

[Agnlaw]

We totally shut down their #1 WR (Cooper). 58 plays, zero Rec (1 drop).

They tried to get him the ball 7 times & were DENIED!
1. Zack smothered him
2. Sprott buried him
3. Dixon drowned him.
4. Rock said "Get that weak $hit out of here" (PD)
5. Chicken said "Don't try it Holmes" (PD)
6. Dixon had him in a choke hold.
7. Krew scared him into submission (drop)
:gig::gig::gig::gig::gig:

[txags92]

I know Bort has been saying he was going to be playing with the energy usage factors over the course of several games. I know last game it seemed like the starters got pulled really early, while this one it seems like the starters stayed in forever. I suspect that we are seeing the result of him tweaking the energy use from game to game, because if anything we should have seen more time from the backups this game instead of less, given that this was a tougher opponent that should have worn us down more.

[txags92]

So have we gone to the 4-2-5 and moved our MLB to the 3rd safety position? ;)

Rock Goodag is flirting with having more PDs than tackles. Still can't figure out why his tackle numbers are so far down from last year...

[AWolf02]

We totally shut down their #1 WR (Cooper). 58 plays, zero Rec (1 drop).

They tried to get him the ball 7 times & were DENIED!
1. Zack smothered him
2. Sprott buried him
3. Dixon drowned him.
4. Rock said "Get that weak $hit out of here" (PD)
5. Chicken said "Don't try it Holmes" (PD)
6. Dixon had him in a choke hold.
7. Krew scared him into submission (drop)
:gig::gig::gig::gig::gig:

And I know from some of the plays I looked at the had AWolf helping with double coverage.

[Pumchavas28]

I know Bort has been saying he was going to be playing with the energy usage factors over the course of several games. I know last game it seemed like the starters got pulled really early, while this one it seems like the starters stayed in forever. I suspect that we are seeing the result of him tweaking the energy use from game to game, because if anything we should have seen more time from the backups this game instead of less, given that this was a tougher opponent that should have worn us down more.


I was looking for that link/post but couldn't find it....

[Pumchavas28]

And I know from some of the plays I looked at the had AWolf helping with double coverage.


Awolf had a sweet INT... :cool:

[Pumchavas28]

I have no idea what P-Ville's problem was on returns. He had open lanes all over the place, but chose to run right at people. :headslap:

Alot of our players were acting funny as I look at those replays....

:sad:

[Agnlaw]

Our D had a great game.:gig:



So did their's.:sad:

[zrf2002]

Awolf had a sweet INT... :cool:

awolf did not get the int, it was vly....

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2280887

[AWolf02]

Awolf had a sweet INT... :cool:


He did?

[zrf2002]

He did?

nope, see my post above....

[Pumchavas28]

My Bad.... I got them confused.... :sad:

[Agnlaw]

awolf did not get the int, it was vly....

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2280887


Looking at that play, I gotta wonder what Dix was doing. I've seen this before... seems like the defender is programed to cover whichever WR is closest to him; regardless if it means that he will leave his guy wide open.:huh:

[AWolf02]

We got lucky here that the ball was under thrown. I dont think the FS moved at all.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2280875

[Dustin00whoop]

It was obviously the backup QB play that cost us the game. I can't believe he couldn't lead us to at least 10 points in his 3 plays.

[Agnlaw]

We got lucky here that the ball was under thrown. I dont think the FS moved at all.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2280875


I didn't capture that attempt to Cooper in the earlier post. That actually was what I was concerned about pre-game (he was faster than any of our CB's).

[TexAg77]

Can anyone explain why Hit Man didn't play at all this week?:mad:

[Pflugerville Ag]

Can anyone explain why Hit Man didn't play at all this week?:mad:

There were so few plays run that the starters didn't get tired enough to get the back ups in very much (or not at all).

[txags92]

I suspect it goes back to the GLB admins tweaking the energy requirments. I looked a while ago and i had several guys with 60+ plays. I have NEVER had that many plays and Pum didn't change the sub in/out percentages to cause it. The only possible explanation is that they changed the per play energy use for the simulation.

Pum, any chance you can post in the GLB forums asking if they will be making big changes again next week? It obviously really impacted our plans, and we need to know whether to adjust our sub in/out for this setting or if the settings will be changing again.

[txags92]

The other interesting thing is that I didn't get as much experience as I expected to. I had several guys that I expected to level up this game, but none of them even came close despite playing nearly twice as many plays as usual.

[Pumchavas28]

I suspect it goes back to the GLB admins tweaking the energy requirments. I looked a while ago and i had several guys with 60+ plays. I have NEVER had that many plays and Pum didn't change the sub in/out percentages to cause it. The only possible explanation is that they changed the per play energy use for the simulation.

Pum, any chance you can post in the GLB forums asking if they will be making big changes again next week? It obviously really impacted our plans, and we need to know whether to adjust our sub in/out for this setting or if the settings will be changing again.


I'll send em a PM... because their FORUMS are a crap load of shyt....

They are completely horrible & trying to sift throw that mess is nothing more than a HUGE head ache...

[Gravy]

Looks like they were putting everyone in the box evertime we ran the ball.

[txags92]

If i were a team with good CBs and quality FS/SS, I would do the same thing. We haven't shown the ability to pass our way out of those kinds of situations yet. We are very much like the early and mid 1990s A&M teams. Excellent running game against weaker teams, but premier defenses stuffed our running game and we couldn't overcome it with a weak passing game.

[Pumchavas28]

:sad:

[zrf2002]

Looks like they were putting everyone in the box evertime we ran the ball.

you mean like this?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=2280233

at least LARD ASS got his first tackle ever....

[txags92]

It might be worth it to go 70-80% pass in the next game against a good defense just to see if we can catch them off guard and surprise them. But if we are already throwing 2 picks a game, that may not be a real good idea. I also wonder if we ought to change up our defensive settings some to go more for fumbles and interceptions. Getting some more turnovers each game might help put our offense on a short field more often.

[Pumchavas28]

It might be worth it to go 70-80% pass in the next game against a good defense just to see if we can catch them off guard and surprise them. But if we are already throwing 2 picks a game, that may not be a real good idea.
We tried that once & lost.... :sad:

I also wonder if we ought to change up our defensive settings some to go more for fumbles and interceptions. Getting some more turnovers each game might help put our offense on a short field more often.

That would have to be on an individual basis... There is nothing on the Tactics page that can adjust that.....

[Agnlaw]

We tried that once & lost.... :sad:



That would have to be on an individual basis... There is nothing on the Tactics page that can adjust that.....

I'm willing to adapt my advanced tactics settings to be on board with the game plan. But it seemed to me that we had a number of missed tackles & adjustments to try to cause fumbles might make this to happen more.

[txags92]

Well I haven't had a chance to look at this most recent game, so I can't say this definitively, but reviewing previous games, it doesn't look like the missed tackles that we had really caused big problems. Maybe we leave the DBs alone and only change the front 7 or something, but I see a clear trend of losing the turnover battle correlating with losing very close games to equal or stronger opponents. If we can't move the ball reliably on offense against better teams, then we need to be looking for any other advantage we can get, and maybe trying harder to get turnovers would get us that edge.

I know it would be an individual change to make, but if the coaching staff came out and asked for it, I doubt anybody would refuse...

[Agnlaw]

For sometime, I've kept Dix (he has 2 Int and 1 FFum this season) settings as:
Tackling: Wrap up (very low chance of causing fumbles)
Focus: Pass
Coverage: Close (stick to your man like glue if you can)
Style: medium (go for interception only if you have help over the top.

If Pum wants to use him for a test subject next game, I switch up the settings however you like (for 1 game to see if anything changes).

[Pumchavas28]

I'm willing to adapt my advanced tactics settings to be on board with the game plan. But it seemed to me that we had a number of missed tackles & adjustments to try to cause fumbles might make this to happen more.


Exactly....

This is how I see the whole issue with building a player & setting things up...

If I had it my way... EVERYONE would focus on tackling... the Skills Players would be fast with stamina.... The Bloody Knuckles Dudes would be Strong with Stamina.....

But as I've said before... Everyone is free to build as they see fit....

And I like it that way... It make things interesting & you can see the differences in stats & performance (see posts about BL, FC & so on... ;)...)

Also everyone creating players how they see fit, makes it realistic....

I have players on 4 teams.... On a team or two... the Owner dictates how they want the players to be built... Sounds good at 1st.... But when everyone is built the same... Weaknesses are created.... When everyone is built differently, what is one players weakness is someone elses strength & vice versa...

It makes it impossible for another to key in on something for us...

Obviously our Passing game for whatever reason is not performing at the same level as the Top Teams in the league...but it isn't completely horrible... Our DB's do a good job of picking off passes also... If anything I think most INT's from what I have seen is due to the CB's making plays & not the QB making a bad play...

But despite the struggles in the passing game... we have done nicely in building a very balanced team... Where one player is weak, his teammate makes up for it...

We have DT's that can get to the QB, & some that can stuff the run....

We have DE's who can get hurries, and some that can't....

We have LB's good against the pass & some good against the run...

We have CB's good at PD's & some better at INT's....

We have RB's with good Agility & some with better Speed...

And so on....

I don't want to be that type of owner who tells you all, do this, do that, do this, do that....

I want you all to create your players how you see fit & I will do my best to create a game plan that suites us (as a whole) best... If I wanted everyone to be uniformed & the way I wanted, I would have just created a team with nothing but my players... That would suck!!! Or I might as well play NCAA or Madden....

Of course to go along with me trying to accomodate everyone... I will need folks to be understanding when something screwy happens....

Case in point the # of plays today... I have no idea what happened with that... It's crazy really... But well figure something out... :gig:

[txags92]

I don't want you telling us what to do either. But I think from a tactics standpoint, you need to have some idea what everybody is doing so that you don't try to shift the game plan and then have some unintended consequences result from people also changing their personal advanced tactics.

Don't take what I am saying as untargeted negativity...I mean it very much as constructive criticism of all of us (including my players). The way I see it right now, we are at best middle of the pack in our conference playing the way we play right now. We have already lost to three of the teams closest to us in talent and we still have VERY tough road games upcoming against three of the teams above us. We can either stick with what got us here and simply wait two seasons until 4 teams above us move to other leagues so that we have a chance to compete for the top place in the conference, or we can start trying to identify our weaknesses and do things differently to overcome them. Right now, our running game is recognized by everybody in the league as our strength and they are all gameplanning to stop us. We can either keep butting our heads against that wall or try something else and see if it works. Likewise, we keep losing very close games to tough competition because we can't move the ball on offense and we give the other team short fields due to turnovers. The logical thing to do if we can't get our offense going is to try to have our defense pick up the slack. If nobody agrees with me, fine...we can keep doing what we are doing. But my personal opinion is that we have gone through 6 games now and have a good idea what our strengths and weaknesses are. I would feel a bit like a Torbush if I sat here with full knowledge of what isn't working and decided not to change anything.

[txags92]

Balance can also be another word for mediocre...if we don't excel at any given thing, then it really doesn't do us any good to be balanced.

[Agnlaw]

Don't know what a Torbrush is, but I'm pretty sure I'm against 'em!

I think you make a valid point though. I like the freedom to design my players attributes but would definitely have no problem setting advanced strategies to support the game plan. In fact, for this season where we're already most likely not going to make it to the play-offs, I would be totally supportive of experimenting.

One point to consider though, the communication can't be through this website (don't want anyone snooping on our gameplans).

[txags92]

How quickly they forget...

Perhaps post-traumatic stress can do that to people. If you really are serious about that, Torbush was Fran's defensive Coordinator for the first 3 years at A&M. He was exceptionally good at getting killed in the first half by opposing offenses...and then changing nothing at half time and getting killed in the second half too as a result.

I think we can still make the playoffs if we beat the teams we should beat over the next 4-5 games. We may be a low seed, but we have a chance. What you said about coordinating advanced tactics with the gameplan is exactly what I was talking about. I don't want Pum dictating to everybody what their stats should be at a given position or anything like that, but asking one group of players to focus on the run, while another focuses on the pass is well within what the coach SHOULD be able to dictate to help him with the game plan.

[Pumchavas28]

In fact, for this season where we're already most likely not going to make it to the play-offs,
(don't want anyone snooping on our gameplans).



WOW.....

We are right on pace with what we did last season & you already think we are done????

Sorry but :headslap:

Granted we are not a CPU team right now... be when the team was bought.... it was 4-3.... From Week 8 on last season we only lost 1 game....

If you are 8-8 you are almost gauranteed a playoff spot... We are 3-3 right now... I can easily see us doing better the 2nd half of the season... JMO... But you know me... I never give up.

[phatbc]

yeah Nigel only had 18 plays, but 2 catches and a first down considering.

[Agnlaw]

Ouch!!! :headslap:that hurts after the first couple of whacks.

If 8-8 gets us to the play-offs, I humbly withdraw the comment.

Regarding creating a consensus on advanced tactics however, I still see it the same way. If you would like for me to adjust the advanced tactics to support our game plan, I would support that.

[Pumchavas28]

I think we can still make the playoffs if we beat the teams we should beat over the next 4-5 games. We may be a low seed, but we have a chance. What you said about coordinating advanced tactics with the gameplan is exactly what I was talking about. I don't want Pum dictating to everybody what their stats should be at a given position or anything like that, but asking one group of players to focus on the run, while another focuses on the pass is well within what the coach SHOULD be able to dictate to help him with the game plan.

Then I want DE's to focus on Pass Rushing....

LB's are hit or miss... so that one I still leave open to interpretation... All CB's focusing on Pass Plays...

For CB's if you have help over top... Go for the INT... Same goes for LB's...

DT's... clog the middle & focus on the RUN... I know you might think it will limit your Sacks... but I have my DT's focused on the RUN & they lead the team in sacks.... :cool:

The O'Line... I want the starting OT's to focus on Pass Protection & the back-ups to focus on Run.... For the Gaurds... I see them like the LB's... Hit or miss... so they can build as they see fit.... C... Please build like the OT's....

I don't own a WR, so I can't say what their advanced settings are... I don't own a QB or HB either....

[txags92]

We have 3 games remaining that I consider us likely to lose playing the way we are right now. We have 2-3 more than are going to be tough close games. If we win the ones we should and split the close ones, we should end up around 8-8 or 9-7. That will get us in the playoffs but not homefield. If we can find a way to win the 3 close ones and steal one we should lose (on paper), then we could end up 11-5 and have a chance at home field in the 1st round.

Doing any better than that would require importing some more talent to beef up our weak spots.

[Agnlaw]

WR settings are:

Running style: Elusive, Power or Combo

Blocking focus: Pass or Run or None

Mine is set on elusive, run block

[txags92]

I think the WR is pretty much limited to blocking settings (run v pass) and carrying settings (elusive v power). There is no reason for a WR to be doing any pass blocking (they should be running routes), so they should all be set to run blocking. Not sure on the HB/TE/QB either.

[Agnlaw]

Then I want DE's to focus on Pass Rushing....

LB's are hit or miss... so that one I still leave open to interpretation... All CB's focusing on Pass Plays...

For CB's if you have help over top... Go for the INT... Same goes for LB's...

DT's... clog the middle & focus on the RUN... I know you might think it will limit your Sacks... but I have my DT's focused on the RUN & they lead the team in sacks.... :cool:

The O'Line... I want the starting OT's to focus on Pass Protection & the back-ups to focus on Run.... For the Gaurds... I see them like the LB's... Hit or miss... so they can build as they see fit.... C... Please build like the OT's....

I don't own a WR, so I can't say what their advanced settings are... I don't own a QB or HB either....


What about tackling style. Should the D line set to force fumbles?

[AWolf02]

What about the safeties?

[Agnlaw]

What about the safeties?

Keep them secret. Keep them safe.

[AWolf02]

Keep them secret. Keep them safe.

What???

[Pumchavas28]

What about the safeties?


I don't own a Safety.... Forgot to add that....

I also don't own a Punter or Kicker so I don't know what their Advanced Tactics are....

[Agnlaw]

Sorry it's a line from Lord of the Rings that came to mind & I couldn't resist.

I would think FS would have a pass focus & SS would have a run focus.

I have my SS (on the other team) set at Wrap up, run, close, loose. But I would take that with a grain of salt (he averages 11 tackles a game... after his first game yesterday). If he was more experienced, I would probably have him go for interceptions when he has help.

[txags92]

Kicker I think has tackling and blocking maybe? Or was it carrying? On tackling he is set to wrap up...forget what he is on the other one.

Safeties I think get the same as LBs...it has coverage style and whether or not to go for INTs.

[Agnlaw]

For SS the settings are the same as for CB.

[txags92]

I have Domingo (SS) set to cover like glue and only go for the INT with help over the top. I think he is neutral on the run pass focus.

[Pumchavas28]

I have Domingo (SS) set to cover like glue and only go for the INT with help over the top. I think he is neutral on the run pass focus.


This sounds about right....

[Pumchavas28]

I would think FS would have a pass focus & SS would have a run focus.



FS definetly would be focusing on Pass...

[Vlyrock]

Vly Rock had a good game... 4 tackles, 1 int and 1 fumble recovery. Don't know what the rest of you defensive players were doing. :)

[Pumchavas28]

I think our Defense is good... They haven't given up more than 17 points in any game...

Our offense just needs to score AT LEAST 21 points a game & our defense can handle the rest... :gig:

Anything over 21 is cudos for our Offense... :gig:

[txags92]

We haven't scored more than 10 against any team that is our equal yet this year. trying to average 21+ against anybody with a decent defense is going to be tough.

[Pumchavas28]

We haven't scored more than 10 against any team that is our equal yet this year. trying to average 21+ against anybody with a decent defense is going to be tough.

Our offensive players are rated just as high as theirs.... We should be able to figure it out.... :gig:

[whitelightnin_23]

It was obviously the backup QB play that cost us the game. I can't believe he couldn't lead us to at least 10 points in his 3 plays.

you're exactly right! it was his pouting & bitching on the sideline that distracted TDee when he threw those two picks!!!

;)

[whitelightnin_23]

also, if we're going to shift our focus to outside runs (pitches, sweeps, etc) our WRs need to add some SP to blocking...

[Pumchavas28]

I don't think the shift will be that drastic.... There will be some difference... But we wont go completely away from runs up the middle...

Unless of course our FB's hit the track & work on their speed also.... ;)

Just thinking out loud.....

For FB's it's a catch 22.... focus on blocking & Focus on Ball Carrying....

FB is probably one of the hardest positions to build a player... JMO.

[txags92]

Pum is right...it shouldn't be a drastic change on our inside/outside running. One thing to note when watching the outside runs (the "*** pitches to ***" plays mostly) is that the most important point in the play seems to be the ability of the pulling guard to get outside the DE in front of the RB. If that happens, the play typically gains at least 3 yards. The only time that isn't the case is when they have a really fast LB and our TE doesn't get upfield and block him. While WR blocking would seem like it should be important on those plays, it is rarely the CB that makes the tackle. The speed and agility of the guard and the relative speed of the LBs seems to dictate the success or failure.

The off tackle plays are a whole different story...those rest almost exclusively on the OTs run blocking ability and the lead blocking of the FB. When the OT can chip the DE and then move on to the LB, it lets the FB take the other LB or a Safety. If the OT and FB have to double the DE, then usually the LB makes the play and limits the run to a couple of yards.

Something interesting on our next opponent...his starting DEs have ok speed, but not much on their containment tree. So we will hopefully have a good time running those off-tackle and toss sweep plays against them.