LOD (Position Battles)

[Pumchavas28]

There will be some Position Battles taking place over the course of the 1st 8 Games of the season....

Our Team is damn deep that a bit of friendly competition will be good for the team... :)

This is how it's gonna go down...

If players are within 1 LVL of each other or at the same Lvl... There is going to be a position battle...

In the 1st 8 games.... Both players will start 4 games each (DON'T WORRY, WE STILL SUB A TON & IF YOUR #2 ON THE DEPTH CHART FOR A GAME OR SO, YOUR GUY WILL STILL SEE PLENTY OF PLAYING TIME DUE TO OUR ROTATION.)

At the end of those 8 Games... The players with the best Stats, Start the rest of the way (unless they would rather be a back-up)....

Here are the battles I see taking place right now....

#1 FB = Jamie O'Hara Lvl 12 vs CJ Oliver Lvl 11
#1 WR = King Gill Lvl 10 vs Kyro Burleson Lvl 9 vs Shawn Clark Lvl 9.
#4 WR = Nigel Tufnel Lvl 6 vs Agnlaw Holland Lvl 6
#1 OT = Moses Hall Lvl 12 vs Corn Fed Lvl 11 vs Bud-Light Lvl 11
#2 G = Agnlaw Pug Lvl 8 vs Kirk Elder Lvl 8
#1 NT = Bob Jones Jr. Lvl 11 vs Red Bryant Lvl 11 vs Rod Saddler Lvl 10 vs Johnny Jolly Lvl 10
#1 DT = Red Bryant Lvl 11 vs Bob Jones Jr. Lvl 11 vs Johnny Jolly Lvl 10 vs Rod Saddler Lvl 10
#1 LDE = Cart Hunter Lvl 11 vs Sea Aggie Lvl 10 vs Mike Bennett Lvl 11
#1 RDE = Cart Hunter Lvl 11 vs Sea Aggie Lvl 10 vs Mike Bennett Lvl 11
#1 ROLB = Puro Pumchavas Lvl 12 vs Krew Wrecker Lvl 11 vs Rock Goodag Lvl 11 vs Mark Dodge Lvl 11
#1 MLB = Puro Pumchavas Lvl 12 vs Krew Wrecker Lvl 11 vs Rock Goodag Lvl 11 vs Mark Dodge Lvl 11
#1 LOLB = Puro Pumchavas Lvl 12 vs Krew Wrecker Lvl 11 vs Rock Goodag Lvl 11 vs Mark Dodge Lvl 11
#3 ROLB = dat nikka Lvl 5 vs WhoDat When Lvl 4
#3 MLB = dat nikka Lvl 5 vs WhoDat When Lvl 4
#3 LOLB = dat nikka Lvl 5 vs WhoDat When Lvl 4
#1 CB = Zack Attack Lvl 12 vs Marquis Carpenter Lvl 12 vs Agnlaw Dixon Lvl 11
#4 CB = G Sprott Lvl 7 vs Fightin Chicken Lvl 6


As you can tell.... We have a DAMN good team from top to bottom....

If others get their players Lvled up then their players will be thrown into the position battles also...

One thing to remeber... If your player does not win the starting spot & is a back-up... It's not all bad.... Last season :

Zack Attack had one of the better STAT Sheets out of all of our CB's despite being the #4 CB. :gig:
Bud-Light (if I am not mistaken) led the O'Line in pancakes as a back-up. :gig:
Cart Hunter who started as a Back-Up saw his stats improve as a Back-Up and eventually earned his way up to a starting position. :D
Several times the 3rd or 4th WR wound up being the Leading WR in quite a few games.:gig:Those are just some good examples of back-ups not really playing a Back-Up roll despite their spot on the depth chart. :cool:

[Pumchavas28]

One thing for CB's.... Tackles wont hold as much water as it will for the other positions... It will weigh in some... But it will be based more so on Passes Deflected & INT's...

[zrf2002]

LARD ASS was a backup Guard for most of the season and moved up to starter due to good PT despite being lower in level as well....

[zrf2002]

One thing for CB's.... Tackles wont hold as much water as it will for the other positions... It will weigh in some... But it will be based more so on Passes Deflected & INT's...

that is a good thing.... the number of tackles really dropped the last few games for the db's, which i suspect was due to better player from the front 7 and the fact that we really beat the crap out of 3 of the last 4 opponents we played....

[Pumchavas28]

LARD ASS was a backup Guard for most of the season and moved up to starter due to good PT despite being lower in level as well....
Another example..... :gig:

[texags08]

I like this idea.... I loved being the Backup OT, i think i ended up avgeraging about the same amount of plays as both starters, and led the team in pancakes...

Thanks,
Bud-Lite

[Pumchavas28]

The real kicker will be for the 4 games players are back-ups... the Stats they pull in those games could be the difference maker on how they do.... :cool: (ie: making the most of your oppotunities)

[Agnlaw]

I posted this on the other thread but it seems this is the right place for the conversation. With Dixon moving down in the depth chart, will you put him on kick off & punt teams?

[Pumchavas28]

Answered on the other thread but since you moved it here... ;)

No, He's already returning Kicks & Punts, putting him on Coverage teams also will really run him ragged....

The back up CB's still get plenty of Playing time...

[Agnlaw]

Okay... keeping it on this thread. Just want to get him all the time possible & help the team (he's much stronger than a lot of the kick-off team). Maybe his future is special teams. Not giving up the CB battle but facts are facts.

[Pumchavas28]

I'll put him on the Coverage Teams also... No problem for me... :)

[Agnlaw]

I'll put him on the Coverage Teams also... No problem for me... :)

Groovy. Let's keep this as an open item -- we'll monitor the first couple of games to see how it goes.

[Pumchavas28]

No problem....

[Pflugerville Ag]

No, He's already returning Kicks & Punts

Correction, he's blocking for me when P-Ville returns kicks and punts! :)

[txags92]

Will there be competition at the other LB spots also? Seems like all 3 starting LBs are about the same and Dodge should be challenging at all 3 spots instead of only at MLB. Doesn't really matter to me...just seemed like Rock was being singled out for competition.

Also, how will the playing time work when there are 3 players competing at a position? With 2 players, it is easy to start each for 4 games. Not so easy with 3 players and 8 games.

[Pumchavas28]

My Bad... I Looked at the LB's wrong..... It's been fixed...

[txags92]

BTW...Didn't mean that to sound whiney, it looks like backups will be seeing plenty of playing time this year anyways. And I agree totally about the depth. I was looking this morning at the depth on the rest of the teams in our conference and there are only maybe 1 or 2 teams that are even close to us in quality of depth. As long as we keep the 3+ turnover games to a minimum, we should make the playoffs pretty easily.

[TexAg77]

Well I went and invested in some flex points so maybe I can get a little PT as a rookie!:D

[Agnlaw]

Looking close at the CB's, our 2 level 12's better not get to cozy. Dixon (at lvl 11) is the only one of the 3 whose scouting report is totally out of the red.;)

[AWolf02]

Well I went and invested in some flex points so maybe I can get a little PT as a rookie!:D



You need to buy equipment. It will help your Attributes and Skills.

[Pumchavas28]

BTW...Didn't mean that to sound whiney, it looks like backups will be seeing plenty of playing time this year anyways. And I agree totally about the depth. I was looking this morning at the depth on the rest of the teams in our conference and there are only maybe 1 or 2 teams that are even close to us in quality of depth. As long as we keep the 3+ turnover games to a minimum, we should make the playoffs pretty easily.
Agreed. :gig:

[TexAg77]

You need to buy equipment. It will help your Attributes and Skills.

What do you recommend first? Remember I'm a DT.

[Pumchavas28]

Well I went and invested in some flex points so maybe I can get a little PT as a rookie!:D


He will.... The DT's always get tired & are the Main part of our Defense... Your guy will definetly see the field quite a bit. :cool:

[AWolf02]

Looking close at the CB's, our 2 level 12's better not get to cozy. Dixon (at lvl 11) is the only one of the 3 whose scouting report is totally out of the red.;)



I guess Dixon doesnt have any Confidence in himself do he???

[Pumchavas28]

What do you recommend first? Remember I'm a DT.

Owning a few DT's myself....

I bought the Shirt for Strength, the Gloves for Tackling, The Eye Paint for Vision, & the cleates for Speed... JMO....

And the Custom Equipment (if you chose to buy it) I used it to boost anything I found to be weak that I knew my DT's needed help with to be effective. :cool:

[AWolf02]

What do you recommend first? Remember I'm a DT.



Buy one of everything if you can afford it. Then choose which ability or skill you want to increase.

Stamina for sure the more the better but you can put it on anything.

[Agnlaw]

I've never paid any attention to the confidence stat & don't think I will (it doesn't appear to have affected his performance or morale).

[Pumchavas28]

If you can't afford something for any reason... let me know... I'll help you out....

[Pumchavas28]

I've never paid any attention to the confidence stat & don't think I will (it doesn't appear to have affected his performance or morale).


That's cause we keep winning...

I had guys on a team that lost a few games, any my guys had more confidence that others & because of that they continued to play well even during the hard times...

Others not so much because they lost confidence in themselves....

[txags92]

If you look at the offensive and defensive line special abilities, they deal alot with breaking down another player's confidence. I get the feeling there is a modification to the player vs player stats comparison that deals with confidence.

[Agnlaw]

Playing for LOD, I'm not going to be overly concerned -- no way we'll see a sustained losing streak. He was, afterall, the only LOD player listed as a "top performer" for our last game.

[TexAg77]

If you can't afford something for any reason... let me know... I'll help you out....

Oh I'm OK. I bought the Div III package. Bought on of everything.

[AWolf02]

Oh I'm OK. I bought the Div III package. Bought on of everything.


you use your daily salary and bonus money for equipment.

[TexAg77]

you use your daily salary and bonus money for equipment.

Just noticed that. But I had to use flex points to buy my custom equipment. I guess I can make another player withe the flex points I bought.

[whitelightnin_23]

or wait until season is over to "power up"

[whitelightnin_23]

pum...when is our next game?

(also, see msg on the Team forum re: ctx info)

[whitelightnin_23]

btw pum :rep: for pointing out GLB and for keeping up with the team! :gig:

[txags92]

Save the FPs and use them to boost levels and upgrade custom equipment.

[txags92]

btw pum :rep: for pointing out GLB and for keeping up with the team! :gig:

Ditto... :rep:...after I spread some around

[Agnlaw]

btw pum :rep: for pointing out GLB and for keeping up with the team! :gig:

No doubt... Ditto:rep: . I was going to buy a team until I noted how much of your time this must take.

[txags92]

He is writing it off as mental health expenses on his taxes. Managing the team keeps him from fretting about the pace of Sherman's recruiting...

[Pumchavas28]

pum...when is our next game?

(also, see msg on the Team forum re: ctx info)
Schedules are not out yet.... :sad:

[Pumchavas28]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: He is writing it off as mental health expenses on his taxes. Managing the team keeps him from fretting about the pace of Sherman's recruiting...

[Pumchavas28]

No doubt... Ditto:rep: . I was going to buy a team until I noted how much of your time this must take.


It is a handfull... But I love that kind of stuff.... :cool:

[Agnlaw]

It is a handfull... But I love that kind of stuff.... :cool:

I'm so busy not doing my job that I can't squeeze anything else in.

[TexAg77]

btw pum :rep: for pointing out GLB and for keeping up with the team! :gig:

I'll hold off on that until I see how addicted I get to this. I may be cursing him after the season!:laugh:

Did get my rookie up to level 5 and strength, agility, stamina, and tackling ability into the 20s. Gotta work on speed.

Any suggestions coach?

[Pumchavas28]

Your on the right path...

Don't stress it TOO much in trying to catch up to the Jones'... For Lvl 5, your guy is right on pace where he needs to be...

Also if you go onto the "TEAM FORUM" section with some good info...

But your DT is right on pace on where he should be.... If you look at the Other 4 DT's on the team & pattern your upgrades based on where they are at, you should be good to go! :gig:

[bb-]

I've spent too much money on this game.

[Pumchavas28]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I know a guy who owns his own team and has filled up his entire team with more depth than ours with only his players.....

He has 1 or 2 more players at every position than we do.... That is crazy MONEY!!!!! :wow:

[bb-]

Lets just say, I've spent over $40. I think I'll go non-roidal after this season.

And what about the ROLB spot? Krew Wrecker and Marked Man Dodge are both lvl 11. Krew needs 11 more xp to go to 12.

[txags92]

He must have stolen somebody's credit card...

[Pumchavas28]

Lets just say, I've spent over $40. I think I'll go non-roidal after this season.

And what about the ROLB spot? Krew Wrecker and Marked Man Dodge are both lvl 11. Krew needs 11 more xp to go to 12.


Ah.... now we have a LB position Battle.... At all 3 Starting Spots.... :gig:

The 3 of those 4 LB's with the best stats after 8 games... will be the Starter after those 8 games....:cool:

Puro Pumchavas Lvl 12 vs Krew Wrecker Lvl 11 vs Rock Goodag Lvl 11 vs Mark Dodge Lvl 11

[txags92]

Rock Goodag is lvl 12.

[txags92]

We need about one more LB that is lvl 8+ and nobody will be able to move the ball on us...not with a DL that has about 7 lvl 10+ guys on it.

[txags92]

Somebody needs to slip Vlyrock and Pinetar some HGH brownies too...they are lagging behind the rest of the defense at FS with their "playing it clean" attitudes.

[Pumchavas28]

We need about one more LB that is lvl 8+ and nobody will be able to move the ball on us...not with a DL that has about 7 lvl 10+ guys on it.


Agreed... that is the one final guy I want (LB).... I'll even take a Lvl 1 - 4 LB for the depth and to develop them behind some seasoned Veterans...

Right now I would say we have 4-2-5 Depth at the LB spot while running a 4-3 defense....

If there is a weakness, it could be that lack of depth at LB, but our D'Line is SOOOO stacked... it helps cover up that nagging issue. :cool:

[Pumchavas28]

Somebody needs to slip Vlyrock and Pinetar some HGH brownies too...they are lagging behind the rest of the defense at FS with their "playing it clean" attitudes.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Nah... Vly & Pin are cool... if they want to they can... but if they don't that's fine also.... Our Defense is pretty damn good & it's almost impossible to single out one position on Defense... so it's not like other teams can focus on the FS position...

I'm not worried about it... They are fine... :)

[TexAg77]

Pum, do you need me to generate an LB? I have the flex points to probably get up to level 3.

[Pumchavas28]

If you'd like to, yeah that would cool... But if you'd like to use those Flex Points for upgrades to your current DT at a later time, that is fine also..... either way it helps the team...

[txags92]

To create a fully boosted LB up to lvl 4 with complete custom equipment will cost you 1400 flex points.

[Pumchavas28]

Which why if you don't have 1400 FP's... I'd just hold onto your FP's & boost your DT later on...

Speaking of which... I am toying with the idea of adding your DT to the DE depth to go along with the DT depth, just to help the overall D'Line Depth...

That would give us 9 guys rotating at 4 positions...:cool:

[TexAg77]

Hey Pum, I created an LB named WhoDat When. If you want him, make an offer quick. I leave for a camp out in one hour.

[Pumchavas28]

Offering now...

[TexAg77]

Offer accepted!

Soon the LOD's home field will resound with the crowd screaming in mad frenzy.....................

"WHODAT!"

[txags92]

Hopefully they will be screaming that after a ferocious hit causing a fumble...not a fumble return to the wrong endzone...

[TexAg77]

Absolutely!:gig:

[TexAg77]

Hey Pum,

Hit Man wants to know what's up with the new kid When getting a bigger salary!:mad:













I do hope you know I'm kidding!:laugh:

[Pumchavas28]

Hey Pum,

Hit Man wants to know what's up with the new kid When getting a bigger salary!:mad:












I do hope you know I'm kidding!:laugh:
New Contracts are gonna go out to everyone now that we have sold our Ticket Sales...:)

[txags92]

Its the GLB...rookies always take for granted what the veterans bled to achieve for them...

[Pumchavas28]

Its the GLB...rookies always take for granted what the veterans bled to achieve for them...


Rookie Owners are far worst.....

You should see the crap the new owners are spewing...

[txags92]

I saw the guy in the USA A#2 forum talking smack about his team when he will be lucky to go .500 on the season...that was pretty funny.

[TexAg77]

DAYUM! Simulated football smack!

[Pumchavas28]

Yeah some guys run their mouth.... There was a guy like that in our old league... We smacked the crap out of them...:cool:

[whitelightnin_23]

There will be some Position Battles taking place over the course of the 1st 8 Games of the season....

Our Team is damn deep that a bit of friendly competition will be good for the team... :)

This is how it's gonna go down...

If players are within 1 LVL of each other or at the same Lvl... There is going to be a position battle...

In the 1st 8 games.... Both players will start 4 games each (DON'T WORRY, WE STILL SUB A TON & IF YOUR #2 ON THE DEPTH CHART FOR A GAME OR SO, YOUR GUY WILL STILL SEE PLENTY OF PLAYING TIME DUE TO OUR ROTATION.)

At the end of those 8 Games... The players with the best Stats, Start the rest of the way (unless they would rather be a back-up)....

Here are the battles I see taking place right now....

#1 FB = Jamie O'Hara Lvl 12 vs CJ Oliver Lvl 11
#1 WR = King Gill Lvl 10 vs Kyro Burleson Lvl 9 vs Shawn Clark Lvl 9.
#4 WR = Nigel Tufnel Lvl 6 vs Agnlaw Holland Lvl 6
#1 OT = Moses Hall Lvl 12 vs Corn Fed Lvl 11 vs Bud-Light Lvl 11
#2 G = Agnlaw Pug Lvl 8 vs Kirk Elder Lvl 8
#1 NT = Bob Jones Jr. Lvl 11 vs Red Bryant Lvl 11 vs Rod Saddler Lvl 10 vs Johnny Jolly Lvl 10
#1 DT = Red Bryant Lvl 11 vs Bob Jones Jr. Lvl 11 vs Johnny Jolly Lvl 10 vs Rod Saddler Lvl 10
#1 LDE = Cart Hunter Lvl 11 vs Sea Aggie Lvl 10 vs Mike Bennett Lvl 11
#1 RDE = Cart Hunter Lvl 11 vs Sea Aggie Lvl 10 vs Mike Bennett Lvl 11
#1 ROLB = Puro Pumchavas Lvl 12 vs Krew Wrecker Lvl 11 vs Rock Goodag Lvl 11 vs Mark Dodge Lvl 11
#1 MLB = Puro Pumchavas Lvl 12 vs Krew Wrecker Lvl 11 vs Rock Goodag Lvl 11 vs Mark Dodge Lvl 11
#1 LOLB = Puro Pumchavas Lvl 12 vs Krew Wrecker Lvl 11 vs Rock Goodag Lvl 11 vs Mark Dodge Lvl 11
#3 ROLB = dat nikka Lvl 5 vs WhoDat When Lvl 4
#3 MLB = dat nikka Lvl 5 vs WhoDat When Lvl 4
#3 LOLB = dat nikka Lvl 5 vs WhoDat When Lvl 4
#1 CB = Zack Attack Lvl 12 vs Marquis Carpenter Lvl 12 vs Agnlaw Dixon Lvl 11
#4 CB = G Sprott Lvl 7 vs Fightin Chicken Lvl 6


As you can tell.... We have a DAMN good team from top to bottom....

If others get their players Lvled up then their players will be thrown into the position battles also...

One thing to remeber... If your player does not win the starting spot & is a back-up... It's not all bad.... Last season :
Zack Attack had one of the better STAT Sheets out of all of our CB's despite being the #4 CB. :gig:
Bud-Light (if I am not mistaken) led the O'Line in pancakes as a back-up. :gig:
Cart Hunter who started as a Back-Up saw his stats improve as a Back-Up and eventually earned his way up to a starting position. :D
Several times the 3rd or 4th WR wound up being the Leading WR in quite a few games.:gig:Those are just some good examples of back-ups not really playing a Back-Up roll despite their spot on the depth chart. :cool:

anyone care to update the stats for these "position battles"

[Pumchavas28]

anyone care to update the stats for these "position battles"
What do you mean???

I've made the switches to the starting line up for Game 2....

[whitelightnin_23]

meaning...
how did the starters do v. backups (for the close position battles)

EX:
What are the stats for
Sea Aggie v. Cart Hunter v. Can't Hide from Bennett?

[Pumchavas28]

meaning...
how did the starters do v. backups (for the close position battles)

EX:
What are the stats for
Sea Aggie v. Cart Hunter v. Can't Hide from Bennett?


OOOOHHHHHHHHHH..... I get ya....

I wasn't going to look at that till after Game 6... But I could update that... No Problem... But JMO, lets wait till game 2 is over, cause after 1, the stats are a bit scewed & don't really tell alot....

But after 2 games the stats should really start to take form and start showing who is & who isn't a leader in the race for starting jobs. :cool:

[Pumchavas28]

Oh what the hell... Here we go...

I also cancelled the competition for the 3 Starting LB's & the 2nd String G... My guys will play 2nd in both competitions...


#1 FB (Starting off close, but the edge goes to O'Hara after Game 1 with more yds per carry & 1 more TD.)
Jamie O'Hara = 3 Carries 20yds Rushing 2 TD's.
CJ Oliver = 6 carries 14.5yds Rushing 1 TD.

#1 WR (Another Spot Starting Off Close, Gill & Burleson are off to good starts & in a slight lead.)
King Gill = 1 Catch 15yds Receiving
Kyro Burleson = 1 Catch 7.5yds Receiving
Shawn Clark = 0 Catches

#4 WR (Tied)
Nigel Tufnel = 0 Catches
Agnlaw Holland = 0 Catches

#1 OT (Corn & BL are off to a hot start & in the lead after 1 game.)
Moses Hall = 1 Pancake
Corn Fed = 3 Pancakes
Bud-Light = 5 Pancakes

#1 NT & DT (Bryant & Jolly are off to a slim lead with 1 sack each...)
Bob Jones Jr. = 1 Tackle
Red Bryant = 2 Tackles 1 Sack
Rod Saddler = 1 Tackle
Johnny Jolly = 3 Tackles 1 Sack

#1 DE (Cart & Sea are off to good starts & in the lead for starting jobs.)
Cart Hunter = 3 Tackles
Sea Aggie = 2 Tackles
Mike Bennett = Zilch, Nada, Nothing...

#3 LB (Tied)
dat nikka = 1 Tackle
WhoDat When = 1 Tackle

#1 CB (Too Tight To Call Leaders Right Now.)
Zack Attack = 4 Tackles 1 Pass Deflections
Marquis Carpenter = 2 Tackles 2 Pass Deflections
Agnlaw Dixon = 4 Tackles 2 Pass Deflections

#4 CB (Also Close... but that 1 INT gives G Sprott the slimmest of leads)
G Sprott = 2 Tackles 1 INT
Fightin Chicken = 2 Pass Deflections

[Agnlaw]

#1 CB (Too Tight To Call Leaders Right Now.)
Zack Attack = 4 Tackles 1 Pass Deflections
Marquis Carpenter = 2 Tackles 2 Pass Deflections
Agnlaw Dixon = 4 Tackles 2 Pass Deflections


If you add the # of plays, it ain't that tight.
Zak - 46
Marquis - 48
Dixon - 35

[Pumchavas28]

#1 CB (Too Tight To Call Leaders Right Now.)
Zack Attack = 4 Tackles 1 Pass Deflections
Marquis Carpenter = 2 Tackles 2 Pass Deflections
Agnlaw Dixon = 4 Tackles 2 Pass Deflections


If you add the # of plays, it ain't that tight.
Zak - 46
Marquis - 48
Dixon - 35

True... but with them rotating at the Starting CB spot, eventually over 8 games, it should even out....

Case in point.... Zak & Dixon are starting at CB for this next game... Marquis is filling in the Back-Up role....

[Agnlaw]

True... but with them rotating at the Starting CB spot, eventually over 8 games, it should even out....

Case in point.... Zak & Dixon are starting at CB for this next game... Marquis is filling in the Back-Up role....

O yea... Dix also got a TFL... (but whose counting);)

I wonder if KR's/PR's is what is really hurting Dix (and not whether he's CB2 or CB3). He was CB2 all last year, with more stamina but still lagged behind Zak in experience (so it had nothing to do with the depth chart).

[Pumchavas28]

That could be it.... I'm still not 100% certain how the new Energy Bars work.... So far our depth has made it have little to no effect except for those on Special Teams & our QB's...

For the most part those on Special Teams lose a bit more energy since Special Teams is a full sprint for everyone on the field...

[Agnlaw]

The game should be changed to address that (by gving more XP for special teams play or something). As it stands, you get punished for playing special teams. Maybe our CBs should rotate through PR/KR duty as well.

[Pumchavas28]

The game should be changed to address that (by gving more XP for special teams play or something). As it stands, you get punished for playing special teams. Maybe our CBs should rotate through PR/KR duty as well.

Well, you do gain Experience... but you get tired after a while...

Which is why I wanted to put more Back-Ups (RB's, WR's & CB's) returning Kicks... That's why I had asked you if you were sure about returning kicks...

Also it could be that Offenses don't really go 3 or 4 WR's all that often until they are behind & trying to catch up, or if their Owner is really trying to Air it Out & is pass happy...

So naturally the 3rd & 4th CB wont see as many plays...

[Agnlaw]

Tough balance (glad I'm not an owner putting up with this ;) ).

[Pumchavas28]

After game 2... Here is how things are stacking up...

#1 FB (Still close, Oliver has 11 more Yds, but O'Hara has 3 more TD's.)
Jamie O'Hara = 10 Carries 58.5yds Rushing 4 TD's.
CJ Oliver = 14 carries 69.5yds Rushing 1 TD.

#1 WR (Burleson is starting to pull away with Gill holding onto that other #2 WR Spot also.)
King Gill = 7 Catches 66.5yds Receiving
Kyro Burleson = 6 Catch 141.5yds Receiving 2 TD's
Shawn Clark = 2 Catches 11.5yds Recieving 1 TD

#4 WR (Holland takes a slight lead with his 1 catch)
Nigel Tufnel = 0 Catches
Agnlaw Holland = 1 Catch 8.5yds Recieving

#1 TE (Tellus is off to a hot start after 2 games, Billy Bob will get his chance to catch up after these next 2 games)
Billy-Bob-Joe Wison = 1 Catch 6.5yds Recieving / 3 Rushes 13.5 yds Rushing
Tellus Bennett = 5 catches 64.5yds Recieving 1 TD.

#1 OT (BL is looking like he might lock down that LOT spot Hall & Fed could be battling for the ROT spot unless they catch up to BL.)
Moses Hall = 7 Pancake
Corn Fed = 4 Pancakes
Bud-Light = 13 Pancakes

#1 NT & DT (Jolly is the surprise of the bunch... but this is probably the closest race so far)
Bob Jones Jr. = 4 Tackle
Red Bryant = 3 Tackles 2 Sacks
Rod Saddler = 3 Tackles 1 Forced Fumble
Johnny Jolly = 6 Tackles 3 Sacks

#1 DE (Cart & Sea are off to good starts & in the lead for starting jobs. NO CHANGE)
Cart Hunter = 5 Tackles 1 PD
Sea Aggie = 6 Tackles
Mike Bennett = 1 Tackle

#1 CB (Zack & Dixon are starting to pull away from Marquis in Tackles, INT's & PD's.)
Zack Attack = 7 Tackles 1 INT (1yd) 1 Pass Deflections
Marquis Carpenter = 5 Tackles 3 Pass Deflections
Agnlaw Dixon = 9 Tackles 1INT 4 Pass Deflections

#4 CB (Also Close... but that 1 INT gives G Sprott the slimmest of leads)
G Sprott = 3 Tackles 1 INT (1yd)
Fightin Chicken = 2 Tackles 4 Pass Deflections

[whitelightnin_23]

for the DE battle, I think we should also take into account the # of "hurries"...

I think Sea Aggie & Can't Hide both had 3 this game (Cart didn't have any :sad:)

[Pumchavas28]

I'm just going off of stats that you see on a player's profile... trying to keep up with those other stats would be cool, but that take WAY to much time & effort to go back & keep adding em all together...

Besides... I'd much rather have Tackles & Sacks.... So far our DE's are good on Tackles... but ZERO sacks...:sad:

[whitelightnin_23]

I'm just going off of stats that you see on a player's profile... trying to keep up with those other stats would be cool, but that take WAY to much time & effort to go back & keep adding em all together...

Besides... I'd much rather have Tackles & Sacks.... So far our DE's are good on Tackles... but ZERO sacks...:sad:

because we've been tying up all the blockers so the DT's can go free!

[Pumchavas28]

because we've been tying up all the blockers so the DT's can go free!


That's what ya'll get for making a name for yourselves last season.... ;)

[zrf2002]

i have built CORN FED as more of a pass blocking OT.... this may be why he does not have as many pancakes as the other guys... here are his atributes. tell me if you think i should change/focus on other areas in another way...

Strength - 33.7
Speed - 16.7
Agility - 19.86
Stamina -23.8
Vision - 19.82
Blocking - 43.74

Pass Blocking tree looks like this:

Pass Block - 4
Shock Block - 4
Foundation - 3
Absorb Pain - 3
Protect - 3

Run Blocking Tree looks like this:

Run Block - 2
Get Low - 2
Hands - 2
Cut Block - 2
Pancakes - 2

i did this b/c i figured an OT would need to protect better against the pass and defend the DE's better so the qb wont get sacked.... i have created LARD ASS to be more of a run blocker at the Guard position and he has 7 pancakes compared to CF's 4 on the season...

obviously Bud-Lite is killing on the pancakes this season, but his attributes are set on run blocking too.... he is also getting more PT than any other OL since he is set as a starter and as a primary back-up in many of the games we have played....

i guess my question is..... for OT, is it better to set up the OL with more run blocking attributes than pass blocking or will it depend more on our game plan from week to week?

[AWolf02]

Looks like we could have a battle for starting TE now...

[txags92]

I think I have Moses Hall and RAB setup to be more run oriented since that seems to be our team identity. I would rather see Moses start at RT instead of LT, because I haven't put any pts into the "Protect" skill that is for LTs only. If I were to do anything with your stats, I might work on strength, as that will help with pancakes. You might also want to keep working on Stamina as that will keep you in the game for more plays.

[Pumchavas28]

i guess my question is..... for OT, is it better to set up the OL with more run blocking attributes than pass blocking or will it depend more on our game plan from week to week?

Yes on both counts... but from what I read on one of the Mods' posts... Pancakes can be achieved both in Pass Blocking & Run Blocking....

Personally... I can't figure out the Run Blocking stats... I have built 2 OT's myself on another team and neither are racking up the same number of Pancakes as our 3 Top guys on LOD...

They are both Lvl 13 & just cant...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=40556

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=40614

But I just recently upgraded their Equipment to a Pass Blocking ability yesterday due to one Coach wanting to throw more.... And the other needing more pass protection due to a lack of a running game.

But the game plan will change a bit from time to time... I don't want to be a team like ttu where we throw 80 times a game & I don't want to be like a Fran A&M team where we run 80 times a game... I'm looking for a balanced attack... (or as close to it)

[Agnlaw]

... If I were to do anything with your stats, I might work on strength, as that will help with pancakes.

I thought so too, but my G, whose strength is now 40+, still can't deliver a pancake.

here's his profile: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=45539

[txags92]

I can't figure that out either, because my G is better than my OT stat wise, but he got nothing last game against an inferior opponent, while the OT got 6 pancakes. We even had Nigel Tufnel (the Michael Corey of our receiving corps) get a pancake last game...

[AWolf02]

I thought so too, but my G, whose strength is now 40+, still can't deliver a pancake.

here's his profile: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=45539


You have to show the profile for us to see it.

[txags92]

Might be his vision...thats pretty low.

[texags08]

Well here are BL's stats...

Blocking and strength are the two most important...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=50478

[Pumchavas28]

After Game 3... Here is the update....


#1 FB (No Change after Game 3, Oliver has 9 more Yds, but O'Hara has 3 more TD's.)
Jamie O'Hara = 12 Carries 66yds Rushing 4 TD's.
CJ Oliver = 15 carries 73yds Rushing 1 TD.

#1 WR (Clark REALLY pulled himself up into a Tie for 1st withy Kyro, and Holland has thrown his name into the hat but has to make up ground.)
King Gill = 9 Catches 82.5yds Receiving
Kyro Burleson = 7 Catches 149yds Receiving 2 TD's
Shawn Clark = 10 Catches 149.5yds Recieving 2 TD
Agnlaw Holland = 3 Catches 20yds Recieving

#1 TE (Both had a rough time this last game.... )
Billy-Bob-Joe Wison = 2 Catches 6.5yds Recieving / 3 Rushes 13.5 yds Rushing
Tellus Bennett = 5 catches 64.5yds Recieving 1 TD.

#1 OT (No changes after game 3.....)
Moses Hall = 7 Pancake
Corn Fed = 4 Pancakes
Bud-Light = 13 Pancakes

#1 NT & DT (Bryant is starting to fall behind while Jones, Saddler & Jolly are kneck & kneck)
Bob Jones Jr. = 7 Tackle
Red Bryant = 3 Tackles 2 Sacks
Rod Saddler = 6 Tackles 1 Forced Fumble
Johnny Jolly = 7 Tackles 3 Sacks

#1 DE (Cart & Sea are off to good starts & in the lead for starting jobs. Mike closed the game with a 3 tackle game)
Cart Hunter = 6 Tackles 1 PD
Sea Aggie = 6 Tackles
Mike Bennett = 4 Tackle

#1 CB (Zack & Dixon still in front but Marquis had his best game of the season with 6 PD's.)
Zack Attack = 11 Tackles 1 INT (1yd) 3 Pass Deflections
Marquis Carpenter = 8 Tackles 9 Pass Deflections
Agnlaw Dixon = 13 Tackles 1INT 7 Pass Deflections

#4 CB (No Change)
G Sprott = 3 Tackles 1 INT (1yd) 3 Pass Deflections
Fightin Chicken = 6 Tackles 4 Pass Deflections

[AWolf02]

I thought you werent counting the first 2 games for the TE since there was no competition for the spot.

[Pumchavas28]

I thought you werent counting the first 2 games for the TE since there was no competition for the spot.

No.... I said since Tellus started the 1st 2 game, Billy Bob would start the next 2....

Same thing goes for WR's now with Holland boosting his guy and any other position battle that might come up due to someone boosting their players... Holland did not get a chance to start the last 3 games.... so he will start the next 3 & take his turn with the other 3 WR's who have had a chance to start...

Going back & subtracting stats from one guy & not the other & all that stuff gets too complicated...

Billy Bob will start the next game also & then the last 4 it will go back & forth.

[Pumchavas28]

Here's the post I put up on GLB....

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=110398&page=last#937087 (http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=110398&page=last#937087)


Pumchavas28 (http://goallineblitz.com/game/home.pl?user_id=4421)
Apr 30, 2008 06:41:58
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Originally posted by ABagg
Looks like we have a battle for TE now. We can just have a 6 game face off since I just lvled up to get with in range.


He can start the next 2 games & then the last 4 we can split... http://goallineblitz.com/images/game/forum/smileys/biggrin.gif

[TexAg77]

Hit Man Hayes is tied for 2nd for sacks among d line. Maybe he should get some more playing time to see what he can really do?:D

[AWolf02]

Here's the post I put up on GLB....

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=110398&page=last#937087 (http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=110398&page=last#937087)


What we wrote on GLB sounds like a 6 game face off instead of 8.

It sounds like you agreed to a 6.

[Pumchavas28]

How would it be a 6 game face off if Billy Bob starts the next 2 & they split the last 4????

The only fair thing would be to allow Billy Bob to start the last 2 games of the 1st 4 since Tellus started the 1st 2 before Billy boosted....

Then the last 4 games of the 8 would be rotated just like everyone else....

[zrf2002]

not getting picky about the stats for OL, but B-L was responsible for giving up 2 of the three sacks in the last game.......

[Pumchavas28]

not getting picky about the stats for OL, but B-L was responsible for giving up 2 of the three sacks in the last game.......


I know..... Wasn't his best outing..... but with 3 guys going for the 2 starting OT spots.... They have a slightly different rotation than those with 2 or 4 going for starting spots...

Basically it's 2 on 1 off.... and were just rotating them to see how they are doing... I'm using "print screens" to keep track of em...

In Game 1 Hall & Fed started
In Game 2 BL & Hall started
In Game 3 BL & Fed Started
In Game 4 Hall & Fed will start....

And it will continue like the until 8 games are played.... That was the only thing I could figure out for 3 guys going for 2 starting spots.....

The same thing is going on at CB....

[Pumchavas28]

Just a reminder... it's just for the 1st 8 games.... After that... the best players will start the last 8 games & the playoffs....

[texags08]

BL seems to be doing better as a backup anyway... as long as he gets around 30-40 plays i have not prob with the backup role...

We can still see how the competition plays out though...

[Pumchavas28]

BL seems to be doing better as a backup anyway... as long as he gets around 30-40 plays i have not prob with the backup role...

We can still see how the competition plays out though...


BL was a BEAST last year when he was the #2 Back up for Both OT spots & both OG spots...

But with the new energy settings... I didn't want to run him dry.... but if you would rather have him as the All-Time back-up to Fed & Hall.... I can do that & cancell the OT Position Battle... no problem from me... I've seen what he does as a back-up & a starter.... :)

[texags08]

BL was a BEAST last year when he was the #2 Back up for Both OT spots & both OG spots...

But with the new energy settings... I didn't want to run him dry.... but if you would rather have him as the All-Time back-up to Fed & Hall.... I can do that & cancell the OT Position Battle... no problem from me... I've seen what he does as a back-up & a starter.... :)


This is your call... If he can backup both OT spots and maybe get in at OG some i dont mind, i just need to know what equipment to put on...

[zrf2002]

BL seems to be doing better as a backup anyway... as long as he gets around 30-40 plays i have not prob with the backup role...

We can still see how the competition plays out though...

you might want to work on your speed some and also getting some points into the pass blocking tree..... BL is awesome with his strength and blocking attributes, but he only has 9.13 on speed... some of the quicker DE's may be able to beat him on speed alone in tougher match up... also, on the pass block tree, you have 2 on pass block, 1 on shock block and 0 for foundation, absorb pain and protect....

just a couple thoughts....

[texags08]

you might want to work on your speed some and also getting some points into the pass blocking tree..... BL is awesome with his strength and blocking attributes, but he only has 9.13 on speed... some of the quicker DE's may be able to beat him on speed alone in tougher match up... also, on the pass block tree, you have 2 on pass block, 1 on shock block and 0 for foundation, absorb pain and protect....

just a couple thoughts....

I am training Speed right now and still getting .5 per day, so that will take care of itself somewhat.... This is the first game that pass block has been a problem for him anyway...

[Agnlaw]

#1 CB (Zack & Dixon still in front but Marquis had his best game of the season with 6 PD's.)
Zack Attack = 11 Tackles 1 INT (1yd) 3 Pass Deflections
Marquis Carpenter = 8 Tackles 9 Pass Deflections
Agnlaw Dixon = 13 Tackles 1INT 7 Pass Deflections


:undecided: :huh:
Why isn't Dixon starting the next game? His performance is at least par with the other CBs, he (again) got fewer plays (52) than Zack (53) or Marquis (74) & he is behind both in XP (barely level 13, just 9/1000 in; while the other 2 were already lvl 13 going into the last game). As nip for tuck as these 3 are, it makes sense to me that there rotation in the depth chart would simply be a matter of trying to keep the xp level...

Is that not the plan? If strictly based on stats, they are basically equal but Dix (even with less playing time) edges to the lead.

[texags08]

not getting picky about the stats for OL, but B-L was responsible for giving up 2 of the three sacks in the last game.......


Both were by the same guy that is Lvl 13... The last one was rediculous anyway... Jerrod could have thrown the ball about 3 times to the Wide Open reciever on the left....

[Agnlaw]

No doubt. Python was leaping up and down with his hands in the air screaming for the ball; Clark on the right side was also open. Hate to say it, but was one where the QB deserved to be sacked.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=1642656

[Agnlaw]

#1 CB (Zack & Dixon still in front but Marquis had his best game of the season with 6 PD's.)
Zack Attack = 11 Tackles 1 INT (1yd) 3 Pass Deflections
Marquis Carpenter = 8 Tackles 9 Pass Deflections
Agnlaw Dixon = 13 Tackles 1INT 7 Pass Deflections


:undecided: :huh:
Why isn't Dixon starting the next game? His performance is at least par with the other CBs, he (again) got fewer plays (52) than Zack (53) or Marquis (74) & he is behind both in XP (barely level 13, just 9/1000 in; while the other 2 were already lvl 13 going into the last game). As nip for tuck as these 3 are, it makes sense to me that there rotation in the depth chart would simply be a matter of trying to keep the xp level...

Is that not the plan? If strictly based on stats, they are basically equal but Dix (even with less playing time) edges to the lead.

I think stamina made the difference in playing time last game -- will use all 5 points there on the next level up.

[Pumchavas28]

#1 CB (Zack & Dixon still in front but Marquis had his best game of the season with 6 PD's.)
Zack Attack = 11 Tackles 1 INT (1yd) 3 Pass Deflections
Marquis Carpenter = 8 Tackles 9 Pass Deflections
Agnlaw Dixon = 13 Tackles 1INT 7 Pass Deflections


:undecided: :huh:
Why isn't Dixon starting the next game? His performance is at least par with the other CBs, he (again) got fewer plays (52) than Zack (53) or Marquis (74) & he is behind both in XP (barely level 13, just 9/1000 in; while the other 2 were already lvl 13 going into the last game). As nip for tuck as these 3 are, it makes sense to me that there rotation in the depth chart would simply be a matter of trying to keep the xp level...

Is that not the plan? If strictly based on stats, they are basically equal but Dix (even with less playing time) edges to the lead.


It's a rotation... How you do in a game wont stop the rotation or adjust it.....

Everyone will get an equal number of games... Everyone will have the same opportunity...

If there was a Pre-Season we'd have done this then.... But our team is good enough where the 1st 8 games could be used to see "FAIRLY" how well everyone is doing given the same opportunities....

This whole Position Battle was brought on simply because people were saying their players 1 level lower did better in 1 or 2 games, but I never heard from them when their players weren't doing as good.... Also some people had said that their players weren't given a chance to start...

This is taking care of both.... Everyone is getting their shot....

Only thing is i'm not going to start a Lvl 7 over a Lvl 12.... The talent difference is just too large... So I went with (If your within 1 Lvl of each other).... And that is based on the start of the season...

I don't understand how so many people can get it wrong or understand what is going on with the position battles....




THE 1ST 8 GAMES EVERYONE WILL START THE SAME NUMBER OF GAMES.... AFTER THE 1ST 8 GAMES THE PLAYERS WITH THE BEST STATS (PERTAINING TO THEIR POSITION) WILL START THE LAST 8 GAMES & THE PLAYOFFS...

We are just NOW going into game 4.... Give it some time to work... We took over this team at Week 8 last season & dominated after that..... Once the starters have established themselves I am expecting the same thing considering those who have performed the best have stepped forward....

Relax folks.... It will work out.... :)

[Agnlaw]

This whole Position Battle was brought on simply because people were saying their players 1 level lower did better in 1 or 2 games, but I never heard from them when their players weren't doing as good.... Also some people had said that their players weren't given a chance to start...

This can't apply to Dix; as he was never 'not doing good'. I get what you are doing but the point I'm making is that with the playing time inequity he'll never catch up on the XP he lost last year due to PR/KR duty (if that factor wasn't there, it would be Zak playing catch up & I would be making the same point on his behalf).

JMO:cool:

[Pumchavas28]

Also for the CB spot....

Game 1 Zak & Marquis started
Game 2 Zak & Dixon started
Game 3 Dixon & Marquis started
Game 4 Zak & Marquis will start....

2 on 1 off..... That's the only FAIR way to rotate them right now....

[Pumchavas28]

This whole Position Battle was brought on simply because people were saying their players 1 level lower did better in 1 or 2 games, but I never heard from them when their players weren't doing as good.... Also some people had said that their players weren't given a chance to start...

This can't apply to Dix; as he was never 'not doing good'. I get what you are doing but the point I'm making is that with the playing time inequity he'll never catch up on the XP he lost last year due to PR/KR duty (if that factor wasn't there, it would be Zak playing catch up & I would be making the same point on his behalf).

JMO:cool:


Very True....

Now that Dixon is focusing on CB... he could very well squeeze out Marquis.

[Agnlaw]

Okay coach. But if he falls more than 2-3 levels behind, I'll ask you consider sending him to the rebels. Somehow with Pug, Holland & LaMantia I'm not at all concerned about this (maybe I favor my first-born); but with Dix, I'm commited to building a hall-of-famer.

[txags92]

I really think you are blowing this out of proportion...this whole position battle thing will last 8 games. EVERYBODY INVOLVED in each battle will get the same amount of starting opportunities. If they end up with fewer plays or less experience than the others given the same opportunities, then it is probably because their stamina is lower (which ultimately SHOULD be a factor in who gets chosen to start). If you are just patient and watch what goes on over the next 5 games, you will get the same chances as everybody else.

Besides, I have a couple of players that are backups, and they typically are getting the same number of plays as the starters, so it doesn't really seem to make that much difference. The whole strength of this team is that we have great depth that is very high quality and our coach/owner/GMs make a solid effort to see that everybody plays ALOT. If everybody who doesn't get the chance to start had the same attitude about taking their players to other teams, then it will destroy what we are trying to accomplish here. Why go be a superstar on a team that is losing games due to lack of quality depth, when you can be an important part of a team that is competing to be one of the best teams in the conference?

[zrf2002]

Okay coach. But if he falls more than 2-3 levels behind, I'll ask you consider sending him to the rebels. Somehow with Pug, Holland & LaMantia I'm not at all concerned about this (maybe I favor my first-born); but with Dix, I'm commited to building a hall-of-famer.

dix or any of the other players wont fall behind in levels through the rest of the season, except for the difference in current xp.... with the playing time all the players are getting, even back ups, they should all be receiving close to the same amount of xp each game and day for training.... plus, you can only level up your players through using FPs 3 levels per season, so most of the level 10-13 level players will not go up in level, except for when they level up from getting the xp...

[Agnlaw]

You make good points & as long as dix stays close on the player level scale, there's no problem. But as alluded to, I'm holding nothing back on investing in this player (as I have on the others) & built him to be a starter. He was a top performer in his first year & lost his starting job for no other reason than PR/KR duty. Now a guy who had momentum to be a top contributor over the long haul is relegated to a 2nd tier status for his remaining 9 seasons? I'm not blaming anyone but myself because I didn't understand what special teams was costing him. That said, however, I'm not prepared to watch him slip into mediocrity when he has the potential to be one of the greats. Stats-wise, he is arguably, at this moment, our best CB... just barely -- not enough for it to really count toward anything (all 3 CBs are par). He is, however, behind on XP and will not catch up under the current system.

Geez.. you'd think we were talking about real people (I have to stop & laugh at myself).:laugh:

Added: To the comment about stamina, Dixon's has been par/slightly higher than Zak's until Zak's last boost. I have not neglected this (currently 27).

[Agnlaw]

dix or any of the other players wont fall behind in levels through the rest of the season, except for the difference in current xp.... with the playing time all the players are getting, even back ups, they should all be receiving close to the same amount of xp each game and day for training.... plus, you can only level up your players through using FPs 3 levels per season, so most of the level 10-13 level players will not go up in level, except for when they level up from getting the xp...

That's only true if the starters stamina remains static. The more stamina the starters have, the longer they'll play. The longer they play, the less the CB3 plays (and the gap gets bigger overtime). In a couple of seasons, the CB3 would indeed start to have a significant gap in skill level.

Geez. I'm sounding like a titty-baby & I can't offer a solution that would be fair to the other CB's. Just damn disappointed in how this is playing out due to my own ignorance in the first season.

[Pumchavas28]

That's only true if the starters stamina remains static. The more stamina the starters have, the longer they'll play. The longer they play, the less the CB3 plays (and the gap gets bigger overtime). In a couple of seasons, the CB3 would indeed start to have a significant gap in skill level.

Geez. I'm sounding like a titty-baby & I can't offer a solution that would be fair to the other CB's. Just damn disappointed in how this is playing out due to my own ignorance in the first season.


Not true... Because as our Players go up in Stamina & Level so do everyone elses on all the other teams....

So it will cancel each other out & the # of plays will not change...

Why else do you think that the # of plays the CB's are getting isn't all that different from back when they were all Lvl 5 or so... Because the competition is getting better also & pushing our guys....

It's an arms race.... and I'd like to think we are the U.S...... :gig:

There really is no mediocrity on the team... Especially considering the fact that playing more than 50 plays does nothing more than kill energy which will also hurt a players stats...

I would understand your point if this was NCAA or Madden & we just created a bunch of guys rated 99 Overall & were playing against a bunch of CPU players....

But every game... those are people from other Forums & sites who put together a team trying to beat us.... There are no 2 teams that are the same..... And those people wont stop trying to beat us...

[Agnlaw]

:cool: (for now... reserving the right to whine later).

[Pumchavas28]

:cool: (for now... reserving the right to whine later).


Going out to buy some cheese for later.... :cool:

[Pumchavas28]

After Game 4... Here are the standings going into Game 5...


#1 FB (O'Hara still leads in TD's while Oliver is up by 15yds in the Rushing game.)
Jamie O'Hara = 13 Carries 77yds Rushing 4 TD's. 1 Rec -1.5yds
CJ Oliver = 22 Carries 92.5yds Rushing 1 TD. 1 Rec 0yds

#1 WR (King Gill really stepped up in the Receiving Yds Category. Kyro & Shawn are still the only one's with TD's.)
King Gill = 14 Catches 121.5yds Receiving
Kyro Burleson = 8 Catches 160yds Receiving 2 TD's
Shawn Clark = 11 Catches 159.5yds Recieving 2 TD
Agnlaw Holland = 3 Catches 20yds Recieving

#1 TE (Both had a rough time this last game.... )
Billy-Bob-Joe Wison = 4 Catches 22yds Recieving / 3 Rushes 13.5 yds Rushing 1 FumbL.
Tellus Bennett = 5 catches 64.5yds Recieving 1 TD. 1 FumbL.

#1 OT (No changes after game 4..... BL has moved to a back up Role for both OT spots & both G Spots & the C spot.)
Moses Hall = 7 Pancakes
Corn Fed = 4 Pancakes
Ed Libid = 5 Pancakes

#1 NT & DT (Bryant is starting to fall behind while Jones, Saddler & Jolly are kneck & kneck)
Bob Jones Jr. = 9 Tackles
Red Bryant = 3 Tackles 2 Sacks
Rod Saddler = 8 Tackles 1 Forced Fumble
Johnny Jolly = 8 Tackles 3 Sacks

#1 DE (Cart & Sea are off to good starts & in the lead for starting jobs.)
Cart Hunter = 6 Tackles 1 PD
Sea Aggie = 10 Tackles
Mike Bennett = 5 Tackles

#1 CB (Really close race)
Zack Attack = 15 Tackles 1 INT (1yd) 5 PD
Marquis Carpenter = 13 Tackles 13 PD
Agnlaw Dixon = 18 Tackles 1INT 1 FFum 9 PD

#4 CB (No Change)
G Sprott = 4 Tackles 1 INT (1yd) 4 PD
Fightin Chicken = 9 Tackles 1 Sack 1 FFum 5 PD

[phatbc]

Hell, at WR, Nigel is performing better than Holland right now...and he gives you some PR and KR production...
:cool:

[Pumchavas28]

Hell, at WR, Nigel is performing better than Holland right now...and he gives you some PR and KR production...
:cool:

His ability at PR & KR is one of the reasons I am afraid to move him to starter.... Energy levels are very shaky right now & I don't want more guys dipping below 70% after a game... That would just keep Nigel from performing at his best if he wasn't able to get back up to 100%....

[phatbc]

ahh gotcha:gig:

[texags08]

:popcorn:

[Pumchavas28]

:popcorn:


Is there a way to make that one of your players Avatar on Goal Line Blitz????? ;):laugh::laugh::laugh:

[texags08]

There should be, I will make a C called Post Padder....

[Pumchavas28]

Do it & i'll give you :rep:....

[texags08]

Do we need a lvl 4 OL or DL on LOD?

[Pumchavas28]

Do we need a lvl 4 OL or DL on LOD?


No not really to be honest... Maybe.... If anything... I would create one for Hays & I'll still give you :rep: if you get :popcorn: as his Avatar... :cool:

[texags08]

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=342151

[Pumchavas28]

:rep:

[whitelightnin_23]

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=342151

That's awesome!

[Pumchavas28]

This is how the stats look after Game 5... (3 More Games to go before Starters Are Announced for the last 8 games & the playoffs):gig:

#1 FB (O'Hara still leads in TD's while Oliver is up by 15yds in the Rushing game.)
Jamie O'Hara = 17 Carries 91.5yds Rushing 5 TD's. 1 Rec -1.5yds
CJ Oliver = 31 Carries 127yds Rushing 1 TD. 1 Rec 0yds

#1 WR (King Gill's TD really makes this race tighter.)
King Gill = 19 Catches 169yds Receiving 1 TD
Kyro Burleson = 8 Catches 160yds Receiving 2 TD's
Shawn Clark = 13 Catches 180yds Recieving 2 TD
Agnlaw Holland = 5 Catches 37yds Recieving

#1 TE (Both had a rough time this last game.... )
Billy-Bob-Joe Wison = 6 Catches 31.5yds Recieving / 3 Rushes 13.5 yds Rushing 1 FumbL.
Tellus Bennett = 6 catches 71yds Recieving 1 TD. 1 FumbL.

#1 OT (Hall is in the lead with Fed & Libid battling it out for that ROT spot.)
Moses Hall = 8 Pancakes
Corn Fed = 6 Pancakes
Ed Libid = 5 Pancakes

#1 NT & DT (With Jones... It's Bryant & Jolly with a slight lead over Saddler due to sacks.)
Bob Jones Jr. = 12 Tackles 1 FFum
Red Bryant = 7 Tackles 4 Sacks
Rod Saddler = 8 Tackles 1 FFum
Johnny Jolly = 9 Tackles 3 Sacks

#1 DE (Cart was the only DE with a stat after game 5. 1 Tackle)
Cart Hunter = 7 Tackles 1 PD
Sea Aggie = 10 Tackles
Mike Bennett = 5 Tackles

#1 CB (Really close race)
Zack Attack = 18 Tackles 2 INT (3yds) 6 PD
Marquis Carpenter = 16 Tackles 14 PD
Agnlaw Dixon = 21 Tackles 2 INT (6yds) 1 FFum 11 PD

#4 CB (No Change)
G Sprott = 6 Tackles 1 INT (1yd) 5 PD
Fightin Chicken = 11 Tackles 1 Sack 1 FFum 8 PD

[Pumchavas28]

I know the last game I adjusted the starters late.... I was FYI'ed to do that by a friend only because it keeps teams from game planning against us...

It worked in that game I hope.... Well see if it works this next game also.

[txags92]

Knowing that we need to be looking for a deeper passing game, I am inclined to prefer Kyro and Clark as starters, because for whatever reason, they tend to average longer yardage per catch. King Gill is my guy, but I am somewhat perplexed as to why he is so far behind the others on yards per catch. Any thoughts or suggestions on how to modify him to increase yds/catch would be appreciated...

[txags92]

Speaking of that, has anybody updated a spreadsheet recently with the stats for all of our players? If so, shoot me a PM so I can get an email of it. TIA.

[Agnlaw]

As a reward for the pancakes, and to give us more depth at Gaurd, I have just juiced Pug. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=45539

[Pumchavas28]

Knowing that we need to be looking for a deeper passing game, I am inclined to prefer Kyro and Clark as starters, because for whatever reason, they tend to average longer yardage per catch. King Gill is my guy, but I am somewhat perplexed as to why he is so far behind the others on yards per catch. Any thoughts or suggestions on how to modify him to increase yds/catch would be appreciated...


Kyro & Shawn both broke tackles to make plays... I haven't looked at their Special Abilities & Skills, but they might be good at breaking tackles...

[txags92]

Their YAC isn't consistently that much higher than Gill's. It just seems like they are getting open on deeper routes better than he is. Without looking at their speeds side by side, I am just guessing that Kyro and Clark have quite a bit more speed than King. Which goes back to what i said on another thread about starting him as a possession receiver type, and now realizing that we need deeper threats. So I am trying to makeup for what I didn't do before by adding speed and more on the speedster abilities table.

[Agnlaw]

As a reward for the pancakes, and to give us more depth at Gaurd, I have just juiced Pug. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=45539

He made the "top player threat" roster!:D

[TexAg77]

He made the "top player threat" roster!:D

Oh hell! There'll be no living with him now!:laugh:

[Agnlaw]

Got 5 pancakes, leveled up, and made the top threat roster all in the same day (I'm trying to get him laid but Big Ugly gets bashful around women).

[txags92]

Maybe he worships Python...not that there is anything wrong with that...

[Agnlaw]

:laugh:

[texags08]

So i have been thinking, BL not starting is at a disadvantage in close games... He will not play regarless of energy in the end of the halfs... I know it hasnt come into play yet, but with 22 PC he is by far the better run blocking guard, I dont mind at all being a backup, I;m still getting PC's and EXP so i cant complain, but if it came down to the wire, wouldnt we want our best players in?

[Pumchavas28]

So i have been thinking, BL not starting is at a disadvantage in close games... He will not play regarless of energy in the end of the halfs... I know it hasnt come into play yet, but with 22 PC he is by far the better run blocking guard, I dont mind at all being a backup, I;m still getting PC's and EXP so i cant complain, but if it came down to the wire, wouldnt we want our best players in?


But then what happens if we are down by 6 or 7 & are in a position where we need to throw the ball??? BL is a beast in run blocking,but in pass blocking he isn't the fastest O'Lineman....

It's a catch 22 & part of the problem with the Tactics...

Of course the Mods are imporving the game, but either way, it's a pick your poison issue for not only OT, but WR, TE, FB, HB, DE, DT, LB, & CB....

In certain situatoins some of the Back-Ups are better than some of the starters... But they don't allow us to dictate specific player packages... :sad:

[texags08]

Ahh, i didnt think of it that way... Like i said, i have no complaints being a backup that is getting as many plays as the starters... I also cant complain about 22 PC's...

[texags08]

I think Fighting Chicken should be considered for at least the #3 spot, he should be challenging there... In the last 3 games he has been 10-20 plays behind the starters and #3 CB, but is cpreeping up on their stats, if he was in a higher spot on the Depth Chart i think he would easily take their stats over... He is further ahead in many of the attributes that matter for the CB's than the starters are...

.........FC ....OC ....AD ...ZA
Spd 40.65 30.61 42.52 40.27
TKL 29.75 17.25 18.89 16.67
AGL 21.65 24.31 28.41 24.67
VIS 32.65 22.31 20.98 21.68


TKL and VIS seem to be extremely important... His Shutdown tree is around the same as everyone elses... The Scouting report even says that Overall he is the same as everyone, but in Pass Defense and Tackling he is better than all others... He is only 1 lvl lower than one of the starters... It seems that since i did not put anything into making him a returner, i have made him a better defender...

I really thing that he should be challenging for a starting spot... I mean there is some bias here since he is my player, but just looking at the attributes and the stats if you take into account the playing time, he is just as good as the starters...

[Pumchavas28]

TKL and VIS seem to be extremely important...

I have to ask why you think TKL is extremely important???? Carpenter has only been listed for 2 missed Tackles this season & 3 last season... 5 in 13 games... TKL isn't all that important for a CB on this game... Does it help??? Yes. but it's not one of the 4 most important stats... If anything I would replace Tackle with Stamina... Also with his Stamina at only a 23... That wont keep him on the field all that long compared to the other CB's...

But then again... we aren't looking at Ratings... we are looking at performance (Stats)... I can give FC some time at #3 if you'd think he should have a shot... I have no problem with that at all....

I would also add Jumping... Quite a few WR's have HIGH Jumping ability... while the other CB's are 1 point, higher than FC in jumping... that 1 point could be the difference...

Also I'd boost his Confidence up some also... Confidence will also play a big role with more playing time...

Not saying that Stamina & Confidence are why he's #4 right now.... That was because at the start he just wasn't within 1 LVL of the top CB, which is how this whole Position Battle Started... All the guys within 1 LVL of the highest player would be in competition...

But I can give your guy time at #3.

[Agnlaw]

:wow: Didn't we already have this conversation? :laugh:,,,, oh that was Dix not FC.

[AWolf02]

While were at it AWolf wants to return kicks...

:popcorn:

[Agnlaw]

While were at it AWolf wants to return kicks...

:popcorn:


So does Pug.

[Pumchavas28]

:wow: Didn't we already have this conversation? :laugh:,,,, oh that was Dix not FC.

Eventually everyone will have this convo... It's natural....:popcorn:

[Agnlaw]

When you have as much depth as we do, I think it is unavoidable. FC does look pretty impressive.

Just a question (back to Dix;))... How does he start (on the last game) and finish with 80 energy? Even when you slot him at CB1 he gets fewer plays.

[Pumchavas28]

When you have as much depth as we do, I think it is unavoidable. FC does look pretty impressive.

Just a question (back to Dix;))... How does he start (on the last game) and finish with 80 energy? Even when you slot him at CB1 he gets fewer plays.


That was because we ran 80+ Offensive Plays.... & I think they had around 50 to 55 offensive plays...

We had more Running plays, than they had Offensive Plays...

Our Defense was able to relax...

The Cool thing I noticed was the O'Line Energy... Despite being on the field for close to 60% of the game... The O'Line wasn't tired either... :gig:

[texags08]

I think Fighting Chicken should be considered for at least the #3 spot, he should be challenging there... In the last 3 games he has been 10-20 plays behind the starters and #3 CB, but is cpreeping up on their stats, if he was in a higher spot on the Depth Chart i think he would easily take their stats over... He is further ahead in many of the attributes that matter for the CB's than the starters are...

.........FC ....OC ....AD ...ZA
Spd 40.65 30.61 42.52 40.27
TKL 29.75 17.25 18.89 16.67
AGL 21.65 24.31 28.41 24.67
VIS 32.65 22.31 20.98 21.68


TKL and VIS seem to be extremely important... His Shutdown tree is around the same as everyone elses... The Scouting report even says that Overall he is the same as everyone, but in Pass Defense and Tackling he is better than all others... He is only 1 lvl lower than one of the starters... It seems that since i did not put anything into making him a returner, i have made him a better defender...

I really thing that he should be challenging for a starting spot... I mean there is some bias here since he is my player, but just looking at the attributes and the stats if you take into account the playing time, he is just as good as the starters...


I think these are my key points, why wouldnt TKL be that important if i am the same overall as all 3 but better in pass defense? Everyone else is the same overall because they have return abilities... And, if i am within 1 lvl why wouldnt i get to challenge for a starting role?

I am completely fine with getting some #3 time... But i dont think it will be long before FC jums into a starting role...

[txags92]

I think what he was saying was that tackling as a stat would be important if the other guys were missing tackles and your skill lvl was higher. CB is one of those funny positions where seeing a guy with a bunch of tackles doesn't always mean he is playing better than others. Most of the time when a CB gets a tackle, it is because his man caught the ball. So if a CB is getting alot of tackles, then he is letting his man catch the ball alot. That means the QB is trying to throw the ball to his side alot also, which is indicative of picking on the player the QB perceives to be the weakest. That is why Pum initially said that tackles would count less for CB than things like PD and Ints.

[Pumchavas28]

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for remembering my 2nd post...:gig:

[zrf2002]

for ZAK ATTAK, i did not build him to be a return guy and he has not been a return guy at all.... i built him to be a fast shut down corner.... i have added some on his tackling on occassion, but not very often since he has only had 2 missed tackles this season... i built him for speed to be able to hang with the fast WR's we face. i have given him plenty of agility, and worked on strength and catching to get more INT's.... his stamina is over 31 and his vision is at 22....

[zrf2002]

But then what happens if we are down by 6 or 7 & are in a position where we need to throw the ball??? BL is a beast in run blocking,but in pass blocking he isn't the fastest O'Lineman....

It's a catch 22 & part of the problem with the Tactics...

Of course the Mods are imporving the game, but either way, it's a pick your poison issue for not only OT, but WR, TE, FB, HB, DE, DT, LB, & CB....

In certain situatoins some of the Back-Ups are better than some of the starters... But they don't allow us to dictate specific player packages... :sad:


exactly.... in games where we have to pass a lot, particularily at the end of games, it is probably better to have CORN FED or another OT who is more of a pass blocking OT in the game...

CF is built to be a pass blocking OT and BL is not....

CF:
Strength - 37.1
Blocking - 46.14
Speed - 16.7
Agility - 20.26
Vision - 20.22
Pass Blocking Tree:
Pass Blocking - 4
Shock Block - 4
Foundation - 3
Absorb Pain - 3
Protect - 3

BL:
Strength - 45.46
Blocking - 55.64
Speed - 11
Agility - 18.62
Vision - 21.8

Pass Blocking Tree:
Pass Block - 2
Shock Block - 1
Foundation - 0
Absorb Pain - 0
Protect - 0

also, i have CF with a + pass block on the advanced tactics.....

[Pumchavas28]

I think these are my key points, why wouldnt TKL be that important if i am the same overall as all 3 but better in pass defense? Everyone else is the same overall because they have return abilities... And, if i am within 1 lvl why wouldnt i get to challenge for a starting role?

I am completely fine with getting some #3 time... But i dont think it will be long before FC jums into a starting role...


I'll tell you what.... Carpenter has been a beast at Pass Deflections but I'll give FC the remaining 3 games at the #3 spot with Carpenter at #4.... I know it's not the same number of opportunities considering we're talking about this AFTER the 5th of 8 games....

If he can out-perform Carpenter in PD's & INT's in Total #'s after the 8th game is played... I'll give him the #3 spot...

Currently Neither Chicken or Carpenter have an INT & Carpenter has 14 PD's, while Chick has 8....

Cool :cool:?

[Pflugerville Ag]

All you players that want to return kicks need to back off or else P-Ville is going to go Ramonce Taylor on your asses! :)

[Agnlaw]

Pug still wants to return punts. C'mon coach give him a shot!!!

[Pumchavas28]

Awolf... are you ABagg???? :bored:

I ask because you seemed overly interested in his player... Also he just asked for his TE to be released...

Since you've asked for 2 of your other players to be released already, do you plan on asking for your SS to be released also???

[AWolf02]

no