Latest Recruiting Update

[BuddyB]

Have just heard from my most reliable source:

1. DT Eddie Brown has just decommitted from Neb and switched to the Ags.
2. Derrick Hall is Aggie all the way but may not be able to qualify academically.
3. OG Leroy Chevalier is a solid verbal
4. DE Eric Harper from Marrero La. has ACT problems and won't be enrolling as planned
and
5. CYRUS GRAY IS ANNOUNCING THIS SUNDAY NIGHT AT 10 PM

:gig: :gig: :gig:

[Thisjeffguy07]

Gray has been a rumor for a while... i hope you're right

[BuddyB]

I guess I should have said Gray will be announcing his choice whatever it may be on Sunday@10

[Pumchavas28]

If Hall & Harper don't make the cut, A&M could very easily fill those 2 spots....

However... you have to wonder if SHerman will do what Mack Brown does on occasion & keep a scholi open for kids who have problems????

I've seen stories about Mack doing that regardless of injury or Academic problems & in the end it often pays off for them... (one of only a few things he does that I like).

[Mole]

Why don't we make it a little easier for some of these guys to get into school. I know we're all into the student first and then the athlete but if we want to produce a national champion we need to make sure we can get the best athletes in, even if they aren't the best students.

[Aggiefan]

Why don't we make it a little easier for some of these guys to get into school. I know we're all into the student first and then the athlete but if we want to produce a national champion we need to make sure we can get the best athletes in, even if they aren't the best students.

More than likely it's the NCAA entrance requirementsts Hall needs to worry about, not A&M's.

[Aggiefan]

If Hall & Harper don't make the cut, A&M could very easily fill those 2 spots....

However... you have to wonder if SHerman will do what Mack Brown does on occasion & keep a scholi open for kids who have problems????

I've seen stories about Mack doing that regardless of injury or Academic problems & in the end it often pays off for them... (one of only a few things he does that I like).

The scholarships he holds open for injured players don't count against the 85 limit, if the NCAA approves the scholarship as such. I think it's called a medical scholarship. Let's not dub him St. Mack just yet. Other colleges do this as well. It's not like 'ol yeller has a patent on it.

[DCAggie]

I've been hopeul about Brown all along, but that sucks about Hall.
As for Harper is it a matter of him not enrolling early, or not getting in at all?
Is the deal w/ Gray gonna be one of the tv announcements or what?

[Pumchavas28]

The scholarships he holds open for injured players don't count against the 85 limit, if the NCAA approves the scholarship as such. I think it's called a medical scholarship. Let's not dub him St. Mack just yet. Other colleges do this as well. It's not like 'ol yeller has a patent on it.


I don't know who is dubing him St anything... just putting it out there... I haven't seen A&M do it for anyone... Just saying...

[phatbc]

damn hope they can get their grades/scores up to par

[Vlyrock]

Why don't we make it a little easier for some of these guys to get into school. I know we're all into the student first and then the athlete but if we want to produce a national champion we need to make sure we can get the best athletes in, even if they aren't the best students.
Really Mole? I think the athletes should be held just as academically responsible as the other freshman coming in.

Giving athletes special exceptions and entrance requirements, never helps anybody -- specfically the student. It may help the sports team for the semesters they can stay academically eligible, but I think it's completely realistic to win National Championships with kids that can meet basic entrance requirements.

With that said, I think Pum was right and it has to do with the Clearinghouse and not A&M.

[whitelightnin_23]

I think what mole is alluding to (which I'm not sure if this is the case) is the situation w/ Spurrier & SC (in not admitting recruits)...

[KCAggie]

I agree. The schools should not hold special privileges for athletes and should be held accountable like everyone else. About 1 percent of all athletes make a career out of their sport. What kind of message are we sending these kids if we just let them walk right in without the grades.

[Aggiefan]

I don't know who is dubing him St anything... just putting it out there... I haven't seen A&M do it for anyone... Just saying...

Name someone A&M should have done it for and did not. Other than Matt Nader, name others Mack and tu have done it for.

[Pumchavas28]

I can't remember that crap off the top of my head....

All I know is I've seen stories about it for tu, USC, Iowa & 2 other schools...

I just used tu as an example... Geez... Chill out.

[Mole]

My point is would any of us want a 5 star recruit, who wanted to go to A&M, to go to tu just because he couldn't meet A&M's entrance requirements.

If you can't meet the NCAA clearinghouse requirements then fine.

[Aggiefan]

No need to chill out on my part. When someone makes a blanket statement like you did, I figure you have evidence/facts to back it up. I thought you were posting facts. Now I realize you were just giving an uninformed opinion.

[Pumchavas28]

No need to chill out on my part. When someone makes a blanket statement like you did, I figure you have evidence/facts to back it up. I thought you were posting facts. Now I realize you were just giving an uninformed opinion.


Where did you get that impression from... this is what I said...


I've seen stories about Mack doing that regardless of injury or Academic problems & in the end it often pays off for them... (one of only a few things he does that I like).

And like I said in the post before this.... I had seen stories.....

So I don't see what changed.... I guess you were just jumping to conclusions again.... :popcorn:

What's funny is you even quoted it earlier....:laugh:

[BuddyB]

I wonder what the disparity may be between the NCAA clearing house standards and A&M requirements....anyway ...Cyrus Gray has wanted a little drama for his announcement...has stated he would like to do it with DMN but in this case looks as if he is trying to make the 10PM television news broadcast...I guess its better than watching the blood and broken glass coverage of the typical weekend traffic accident.

[Pumchavas28]

A lot of recruits are doing that now... Personally I don't like it.... But it's whatever.... Tellus is the only one I've seen & probably the only one I will see... JMO.

[bb-]

I guess brown switching signifies we might be losing Rod Davis. I hope not though.

[Aggiefan]

I guess brown switching signifies we might be losing Rod Davis. I hope not though.

Hopefully it has more to do with Harper being unable to enroll. Keeping my fingers crossed on Davis.

[Pokes28]

The thing is that for athletes (even at aTm) there is only one academic standard for admission that counts. That is the NCAA standard and even that is subject to variations. Historically there are only a few schools that require their athletes to have the same admission qualifications as their non-athlete counterparts (Stanford, Ivy League which doesn't have athletic scholarships, and Notre Dame off and on).

Every (other) school has what is referred to as an athletic standards waiver that is used when a kid is above NCAA but below the set incoming standard. The choice is up to the school. aTm has several athletes that don't meet their normal entrance requirements. As do OSU, OU, Texas, etc etc. Simply put, if a player qualifies he could play for any school short of those listed above. No Big 12 team has ever had a 100% entrance requirement for their student athletes since the conference began.

As for the NCAA standard, you have some schools (cough, cough, OU cough) that will even go above and beyond for particular athletes. Guys like the current #1 recruit in Texas (Calhoun) will not qualify but they took special ed classes in school can receive a special waiver that allows them to attend the University. Calhoun and his 8 on his ACT will have no problems making it on campus in Norman. The Special Ed or Learning Disability allowances are something that very few schools get in the middle of. OSU has had one kid that they did that for and it bit them pretty hard (Prentiss Elliott) as he was nothing but very talented trouble.

Qualifications are even across the board for all the schools with the exception of those listed above.


David Harrell - Pokes
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[DCAggie]

I guess brown switching signifies we might be losing Rod Davis. I hope not though.

Or not getting Square to come back. Hopefully losing Davis isn't the case, but who knows at this point.

Of course, the two possibilities aren't mutually exclusive. My bad.

[90AG]

Qualifications are even across the board for all the schools with the exception of those listed above.

I read a very plausible answer to why he didnt qualify on another site...

Nebraska doesnt require that athletes take the written portion of the ACT....ATM does require it....Harper never took it because he wasnt required to in order to enroll at NU where he WAS a FIRM commit.

I've not researched that, but sounds plausible...

[BuddyB]

Here is the latest from my inside source (aka Bobby at Aggiesforum.com)...the guy knows his stuff and is rarely wrong...

"Boyd-Heading to Kentucky it appears, Dean-80% Aggie, Woods-UCLA solid, Square-Bama solid, Davis-not going to t.u.florida is our only competition at this time. I think he is an Aggie. He is travelling to UCLA this weekend with Dean for an official but he ain't going to UCLA....

KLM will be an Aggie and will probably shut it down in another day or two. Gray will be an Aggie too and will announce Sunday night. ":gig:

[BuddyB]

Checking out for the time being...will log on later...

[DCAggie]

I wouldn't complain about that.

What's the latest on Harris and OU? It would be nice to have at least Hall or Harris commit/quailfy.

[zrf2002]

Here is the latest from my inside source (aka Bobby at Aggiesforum.com)...the guy knows his stuff and is rarely wrong...

"Boyd-Heading to Kentucky it appears, Dean-80% Aggie, Woods-UCLA solid, Square-Bama solid, Davis-not going to t.u.florida is our only competition at this time. I think he is an Aggie. He is travelling to UCLA this weekend with Dean for an official but he ain't going to UCLA....

KLM will be an Aggie and will probably shut it down in another day or two. Gray will be an Aggie too and will announce Sunday night. ":gig:

sounds pretty good to me.... i hope you and/or your source is right.

[BuddyB]

thinking my last post was pulled....trying again

Boyd-Heading to Kentucky it appears, Dean-80% Aggie, Woods-UCLA solid, Square-Bama solid, Davis-not going to t.u.florida is our only competition at this time. I think he is an Aggie. He is travelling to UCLA this weekend with Dean for an official but he ain't going to UCLA.

KLM will be an Aggie and will probably shut it down in another day or two. Gray will be an Aggie too and will announce Sunday night.

[BuddyB]

oops again...it did post...later...

[Fxalaweed]

lol would that Bobby be Bobby Brown? just curious

[muybonita]

Here is the latest from my inside source (aka Bobby at Aggiesforum.com)...the guy knows his stuff and is rarely wrong...

"Boyd-Heading to Kentucky it appears, Dean-80% Aggie, Woods-UCLA solid, Square-Bama solid, Davis-not going to t.u.florida is our only competition at this time. I think he is an Aggie. He is travelling to UCLA this weekend with Dean for an official but he ain't going to UCLA....

KLM will be an Aggie and will probably shut it down in another day or two. Gray will be an Aggie too and will announce Sunday night. ":gig:

Appreciate the inside scoop. Keep the tidbits coming.

[Chi Ag]

Why don't we make it a little easier for some of these guys to get into school. I know we're all into the student first and then the athlete but if we want to produce a national champion we need to make sure we can get the best athletes in, even if they aren't the best students.


:rep:absolutely, why should we be different than Michigan, Texas, et. al.?:gig: Good assessment.

[90AG]

BuddyB is the jackA$$ that started Firedennisfranchione.com....

Agree that he had to go, but not wild about your tactics....:bs:

[90AG]

Appreciate the inside scoop. Keep the tidbits coming.

that's not inside scoop...he's quoting Looch...

[AWolf02]

that's not inside scoop...he's quoting Looch...


Not word for word but close.

[WesTxAg]

now if we can just convince eddie that he should've de-committed tonight....

[AWolf02]

Thats what happens when you get an 18 year old kid that has wanted to go to A&M since he was little. So fired up that he forgets to decommit from Nebraska be fore he commits to us. It will all work itself out.

[Pumchavas28]

Maybe he should have tackled himself in the front yard more often....:popcorn:

[BuddyB]

I don't want to get into an arguement and I really don't want to sound defensive but I joined the fire fran website just b4 his departure this past Oct for the first time...The forum there was changed to an outlet for intelligent discussion for aTm sport activity after he left. The ppl there who post are from different schools in the Big 12 (mostly A&M) and the SEC and are not rudely arrogant toward each other. I just pass what I hear that has achieved a level far beyond rumor. If I have offended you 90Ag, or anyone else for that matter I apologize. If anything I pass along does not come to pass I will stand corrected. Just don't shoot the messenger. And if you feel that the other website has been unfair then check it out for yourself before you make a judgement as to its current intent. I think you will find it most informative. Seems to me most of the other A&M talk forums at the time I joined that one were pretty much speaking on the same level. I can't say that about this forum, which I find to be rather good, since I just joined it recently and haven't had the opportunity to get to know its basic tenor. Anyway I don't know who the administrator there is and frankly neither do any of the other members as well. The administrator there is completely anonymous and a mystery. Sorry I can't take the credit for it no more than I can take credit for this forum...

If you rather I not pass any info along I glean from other sites I won't...thought I was just adding to the knowledge base

[armyscout]

Why don't we make it a little easier for some of these guys to get into school. I know we're all into the student first and then the athlete but if we want to produce a national champion we need to make sure we can get the best athletes in, even if they aren't the best students.

Then you end up with a miami or flordia state. ;oad of dumb criminals

[90AG]

I can't take the credit for it no more than I can take credit for this forum...
If you rather I not pass any info along I glean from other sites I won't...thought I was just adding to the knowledge base

Sorry Buddy...I thought you were saying you were Bobby from the Fire Fran site....if you're not him, sorry I mis-characterized you....

the great thing about being at AF versus the others is that generally there is a bit of decorum that keeps the discussion above the norm. Most of us post over there as well and always look forward to adding new members to the fold.

IMO, the Fire Fran sites were chicken****...just my opinion....the guy that ran that site was for sure chicken****, I found that out firsthand....

Enjoy AF...I hope you hang out and get the same benefits from it that many others of us have enjoyed...

[muybonita]

Here is the latest from my inside source (aka Bobby at Aggiesforum.com)...the guy knows his stuff and is rarely wrong...

"Boyd-Heading to Kentucky it appears, Dean-80% Aggie, Woods-UCLA solid, Square-Bama solid, Davis-not going to t.u.florida is our only competition at this time. I think he is an Aggie. He is travelling to UCLA this weekend with Dean for an official but he ain't going to UCLA....

KLM will be an Aggie and will probably shut it down in another day or two. Gray will be an Aggie too and will announce Sunday night. ":gig:

How could you mistake him for Bobby after reading the 1st sentence of his post?