Bradley Stephens.....

[Pumchavas28]

If he is as good as most papers are saying.... (I still have my doubts).... could he be good enough (in Sherman's eyes) to help Sherman move Goodson to WR????

Or to have A&M use more than 2 RB's similar to what USC & LSU are doing now???

I have seen several articles about him & his "bright" future at A&M... Papers in Dallas, Houston & San Antonio have all mentioned it & I am just curious....

[Superaggie79]

he doesn't look as fast as I remembered and seems more like a downhill runner

YouTube - Bradley Stephens Highlights

[Superaggie79]

well he looks faster in those last runs

YouTube - 2007 THSCA Aggie All Stars

[Pumchavas28]

I just hope he proves me wrong & is good enough to earn some playing time...

[PinetarAg]

move goodson to WR??? are you on something....he is a junior why would you fo that to the kid making him basically start over

Stephens still has 4 years left plenty of time

[Pumchavas28]

Because it happened with Sir Parker.... and Goodson is faster than any of our WR's... (Football speed that is)

[PinetarAg]

you takes more than one offseason to learn route running...you are taking our most explosive back we have had at a&m in years and want to make him a wide receiver (a short one at that)...doesn't make any sense to me....what this really is asking is Stephens better than Goodson...and I would have to say no.

[Pumchavas28]

I am not saying it will happen so calm down.....

Sherman is coming in & obviously on offense will make more moves than I think anyone realizes...

Lane to FB, Goodson to WR, JJ to WR, a surprise starting 5 at the O'Line, all are possibilities... They might not, but they very well could....

Especially if he feels someone behind a starter is a better fit...

I am just asking because like I said... papers from San Antonio, Dallas & Houston keep talking about Sherman being in A&M = a new begining for Stephens...

I find it odd that they would single out Stephens.... I haven't seen an article on JJ, any of the WR's, any TE... no one... but Stephens, a RB our Coaches felt could not beat out K. Smith or Tarrant for playing time this year gets pub in the paper...

I am wondering if there is an under-lying story there.... something we don't know about.... something between Sherman & Stephens.....

And if Sherman winds up liking him more than the other RB's for whatever reason what else would you do with Goodson if Stephens is more to Sherman's liking????

I have yet to see an article on any site about how Goodson could explode or Lane explode, or any of the other RB's on next years roster.... Yet Stephens is getting some hype....

[txags92]

JJ at WR? You need to put down the crack pipe...

[Pumchavas28]

JJ at WR? You need to put down the crack pipe...


I am guessing you don't read much....

Several sites (newspapers, rivals, scout) have mentioned it as a possibility & so have some folks on this site other than myself because of the possibility of Dorman & Tannehill....

You might think folks or myself are smoking something... but you can't rule it out... Unless of course you are Mike Sherman or you know him personally...

WOuld I want it to happen... no, but unlike some folks.... I'm not going to just rule possibilities out because of what I think should happen....

[txags92]

Yours is the first I have heard of it. I read quite a bit and outside of random speculation on message boards, I haven't heard or read anybody with any credibility saying JJ should move to WR. I have heard alot more interest in JJ starting over McGee than I have in JJ moving to WR. I lump all of that speculation in the same group that I assume is partaking of an illegal substance. With McGee unlikely to be throwing in spring drills due to his surgery, it would be absolutely foolish to shift our #2 QB )who has brought rave reviews from outsiders who have seen him in practice) to WR while giving starter's reps in the spring to two brand new and totally untested players.

If that is what Sherman wants to do, I am fine with it, because he is the coach...but until I see it suggested by somebody without a long history of comments suggestive of a serious crack habit, forgive me if I don't buy into the idea right away.

[Loftin]

I think Goodson to WR would be a good move if he's willing to make it. However, I doubt he's willing to make it.

His best plays seem to be when he's lined up as a slot receiver or wide out, and WR is one of our weaker positions. Personally, I want to see J-Train finally get the spot as the lone starting RB that he's earned. Also, Cornell Tarrant and Bradley Stephens are two players that I'd like to see used in a backup role.

[txags92]

I want JTrain to get that spot when he has earned it by getting his weight under control. He would be brutally effective at about 250-260. At ~300 he looks slow and fat and has trouble accelerating. He also looks winded after about 3 plays. He can declare for the draft now, maybe get drafted late or sign as a free agent, and get cut before the pre-season starts because he is too out of shape. Or he can stay for his senior season, get his weight under control, get the A&M TD record and a whole lot more under an offensive system that has rebuilt Ron Dayne's career from the wreck that it was, and get drafted in the first 4 rounds of the draft in 2009. Seems like an easy choice to me, but I guess those cheeseburgers do look awfully inviting sometimes...

[Loftin]

I want JTrain to get that spot when he has earned it by getting his weight under control. He would be brutally effective at about 250-260. At ~300 he looks slow and fat and has trouble accelerating. He also looks winded after about 3 plays. He can declare for the draft now, maybe get drafted late or sign as a free agent, and get cut before the pre-season starts because he is too out of shape. Or he can stay for his senior season, get his weight under control, get the A&M TD record and a whole lot more under an offensive system that has rebuilt Ron Dayne's career from the wreck that it was, and get drafted in the first 4 rounds of the draft in 2009. Seems like an easy choice to me, but I guess those cheeseburgers do look awfully inviting sometimes...

J-Train lost weight this year and was less effective (though still the best player on our team). Optimal weight for Jorvorskie's body is about 280. He's a different kind of athlete than most backs.

[txags92]

I believe he may have lost weight over the summer and into the fall, but I would almost be willing to bet that if he stepped on a scale right now, he would be closer to 300 than 280. He makes Kirk Elder look skinny and Kirk is 300+. Don't get me wrong, I love the way he runs, but I think he could be a monster like Brandon Jacobs if he were around 260.

[armyscout]

Goodson is our running. i will be ticked if he isnt.. i know some will be angry with me,but j- trian can not be the sole running back. thats just crazy really. he is hard to stop but if he is the only back the he wouldnt. teams practice all week on how to tackle him. and to me he is getting a little big. i defiantly love him in our gameplan though and he has actually shown good hands. but no way sole back

[Loftin]

Goodson is our running. i will be ticked if he isnt.. i know some will be angry with me,but j- trian can not be the sole running back. thats just crazy really. he is hard to stop but if he is the only back the he wouldnt. teams practice all week on how to tackle him. and to me he is getting a little big. i defiantly love him in our gameplan though and he has actually shown good hands. but no way sole back

History has proven that the more carries J-Train gets, the more yards per carry he gets. Crazy would be giving more carries to Goodson, who is inconsistent.

[txags92]

I would prefer to see a coach use each back in ways that work with their strengths instead of picking just one back at the expense of the other. Goodson needs space to work in and room to cut. Lane needs time to build up a head of steam.

Using Lane in the smoke draw or zone read was among the dumbest things I ever saw and we did it OVER and OVER under Fran. Lane needs to be in motion when he gets the ball or he won't have time to accelerate before the OL blocking starts to break down. If you go back and look at the plays where JT got stuffed this season, most of them were ones where he got the ball standing flat footed and there were already DLs breaking free from blocks and getting into the backfield. If he were already at full speed heading for the line, he would have a chance to dodge them or run through their arm tackles. When he is standing still, he is just a big slow target. We also didn't use him enough outside the tackles. If you go back to the Missouri game last year when he picked the team up on his shoulders and carried us at the end of the 4th quarter, it was mostly running outside the tackles. Lane is much better when given a mismatch against an outside LB or a DB than when taking on a DT, and we didn't give him many chances to show that.

As for Goodson, we need to use him more in the passing game, whether it be swing passes or circle routes or having him motion into the slot and match up against a safety or LB who is too slow to keep up with him. He also needs to get the ball in space...toss sweeps, screens, etc. that put him in space where he can pick an opening are the kinds of plays we need for him. He is actually an ideal option back, but McGee typically held the ball too long before pitching it to Goodson and he rarely had time to do much before running into the sidelines. When he did get it a second sooner where he could make a cut, he typically went for big gains (the TD in the 2006 Texas game comes to mind).

[pearland aggie93]

lets put bradley has returner????

[TIGER]

You want the scoop here it is directly from one of the upper class players! B Stephens is gonna be a great RB for the Aggies. His upside is incredible. No doubt about it! He was voted the practice team offense MVP by his teammates while only playing there per his request for 1/2 season. He wanted to get more reps in practice so he asked the coaches if he could practice on the practice squad. He has definitely gained the respect of his teammates with his play on the field. His vision is outstanding, he makes great cuts, he makes people miss in the secondary and he has the speed to take it to the endzone. He also has looked very good returning the ball as a PR and KR. The best thing they like about him is that he is extremely humble and really a likeable guy. He will be one of the leaders of the team one day in the future!

[Loftin]

You want the scoop here it is directly from one of the upper class players! B Stephens is gonna be a great RB for the Aggies. His upside is incredible. No doubt about it! He was voted the practice team offense MVP by his teammates while only playing there per his request for 1/2 season. He wanted to get more reps in practice so he asked the coaches if he could practice on the practice squad. He has definitely gained the respect of his teammates with his play on the field. His vision is outstanding, he makes great cuts, he makes people miss in the secondary and he has the speed to take it to the endzone. He also has looked very good returning the ball as a PR and KR. The best thing they like about him is that he is extremely humble and really a likeable guy. He will be one of the leaders of the team one day in the future!

Sounds great if that all pans out.:gig:

[Burnetaggie99]

Our backs where fine in the Zone read. It's a good package to have.

[muybonita]

[quote=Pumchavas28;287857]I find it odd that they would single out Stephens.... I haven't seen an article on JJ, any of the WR's, any TE... no one... but Stephens, a RB our Coaches felt could not beat out K. Smith or Tarrant for playing time this year gets pub in the paper.../quote]

They never said he could not beat out Smith or Tarrant. That's your words. Why waste a year of eligibility for a handful of meaningless carries this year? Lane & Goodson had a firm grip on the TB position.

[muybonita]

I watched lots of Stephens footage on Youtube. He is the real deal regardless of the level of competition in the Rio Grande Valley. He reminds of a smaller but quicker Emmit Smith.

[muybonita]

J-Train lost weight this year and was less effective (though still the best player on our team). Optimal weight for Jorvorskie's body is about 280. He's a different kind of athlete than most backs.

I do have some ocean front property for sale. That post is as far off base as a person can be.

[muybonita]

History has proven that the more carries J-Train gets, the more yards per carry he gets. Crazy would be giving more carries to Goodson, who is inconsistent.

Lane wears done because he is so overweight and cannot handle the carries. Yea, he wears down inferior competition but not quality competition.

[TIGER]

[quote=Pumchavas28;287857]I find it odd that they would single out Stephens.... I haven't seen an article on JJ, any of the WR's, any TE... no one... but Stephens, a RB our Coaches felt could not beat out K. Smith or Tarrant for playing time this year gets pub in the paper.../quote]

They never said he could not beat out Smith or Tarrant. That's your words. Why waste a year of eligibility for a handful of meaningless carries this year? Lane & Goodson had a firm grip on the TB position.



Your statement is right on here and absolutely correct!

[Pumchavas28]

Why waste Roger Hollands red shirt for a season where he didn't start returning punts until the end of the year & had little to no action at WR????

The logic doesn't make sense at all....

[Loftin]

Lane wears done because he is so overweight and cannot handle the carries. Yea, he wears down inferior competition but not quality competition.

The statistics directly contradict you...

[TIGER]

From what I understand Holland kinda wishes he would have red shirted as well expecially with the new coaches! This year as a receiver was pretty much a waste for him. Although, he did get that nice TD catch in one game. I gave you the real scoop and have nothing else to add. You just have to wait until spring to see for yourself. Many people who have been fortunate to watch a practice or two know the real scoop about B Stephen as well. Some who came just to see for themselves after hearing about his play on the field.

[Superaggie79]

Why waste Roger Hollands red shirt for a season where he didn't start returning punts until the end of the year & had little to no action at WR????

The logic doesn't make sense at all....
There's a simple answer to this question... Dennis Franchione was our coach.

[texags08]

JJ at WR? You need to put down the crack pipe...

people said the same about McCoy after last year, and look what happened

[whitelightnin_23]

put the best athletes on the field...period.

[texags08]

True that!

[muybonita]

Why waste Roger Hollands red shirt for a season where he didn't start returning punts until the end of the year & had little to no action at WR????

The logic doesn't make sense at all....

So logic to you is waste a year of Stephen's eligibility because frannie wasted a year of Holland's? Alrighty then! You might try enrolling in Logic 101. It couldn't hurt.

[muybonita]

The statistics directly contradict you...

Please post link to such statistics/facts instead of babbling incoherently. I watched Lane huffing and puffing on the sidelines enough to know that good to great teams would have no problem stopping a fatigued overweight RB late in the game. Please list the games against this type of competition that Lane wore down the opposition. And don't list some crappy /inferior team such as Fresno State.

[texags08]

muy >>>>:headslap: <<<< Massacre

[The Massacre]

post #30 on this very thread adds value to the thread. it tells you to quit posting dumb sheeit.

what do i win?

[muybonita]

post #30 on this very thread adds no value to the thread.
what do i win?

How about posting some of the known statistics that you boast to know. I've got money that says you are too mentally challenged to do that.

[The Massacre]

where did i boast to know those stats?

i was pointing out that loftin pwn3d you. not that i had any knowledge of the situation. learn to read, kid.

maybe one day i'll get laid and i won't have to point out all the stupid stuff you say.

[The Massacre]

loftin said the facts directly contradict your statement. i guess i should have left off the word "known" since loftin knows it and not me.

you are really scratching the bottom of the barrel to come up with something to say. i applaud your effort though.

that comment was also aimed at pretty much every post you have ever made also though. so don't count your victory as too much of a win.

[The Massacre]

awww lookey. u were editing your post while i was typing my response. see above.

by the way, i have 100% faith that loftin's facts are correct so i'm basing my knowledge off his knowledge if that makes you sleep easier.

and you calling someone an idiot is that whole pot, kettle, you're black discussion.

[The Massacre]

have a good night. be careful...it's a scary world out there.

[whitelightnin_23]

in all fairness...I haven't ever seen these "stats" that loftin proudly proclaims...

I don't doubt them...but just have never seen them...:popcorn:

[Agnlaw]

Because it happened with Sir Parker.... and Goodson is faster than any of our WR's... (Football speed that is)

How fast? Do u know his 40?

[Pumchavas28]

How fast? Do u know his 40?


I said Football Speed.... It was said last off-season that 2 other players had faster FOOTBALL SPEED than him.... neither were WR's....

ANd that was from Coaches & Players....

[Agnlaw]

I believe he may have lost weight over the summer and into the fall, but I would almost be willing to bet that if he stepped on a scale right now, he would be closer to 300 than 280. He makes Kirk Elder look skinny and Kirk is 300+. Don't get me wrong, I love the way he runs, but I think he could be a monster like Brandon Jacobs if he were around 260.

You never know what you're gonna get. Love him when he reminds me of the bus, can't stand it when he reminds me of the Fridge.

[txags92]

Originally Posted by txags92 http://www.aggiefans.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.aggiefans.com/forums/showthread.php?p=287866#post287866)
JJ at WR? You need to put down the crack pipe...
people said the same about McCoy after last year, and look what happened

I don't recall seeing anybody say that about McCoy last year...and if they did, they were smoking crack. I don't recall anybody seriously thinking that McCoy would contend for a starting QB role or even be a real serious contender for the 2nd string QB role. He was recruited as an athlete and given a chance to prove he could be a QB, with most people realizing that his role would end up as a safety or WR in all likelihood. Given what JJ accomplished in the few opportunities he got his year, moving him to WR would be crazy.

[Agnlaw]

I said Football Speed.... It was said last off-season that 2 other players had faster FOOTBALL SPEED than him.... neither were WR's....

ANd that was from Coaches & Players....

I think you're right, he's got gears nobody else has. I'd wager he runs a sub 4.4.

[74AnimalA]

It just occurs to me that there is a LOT of time between now and when they put the Pads back on.

In the meantime, Sherman will hire a Coaching Staff, players will go thru off-season workouts, and there will be a lot of getting to know their strengths, weaknesses and desires.

At the same time an Offensive coordinator will be hired.

It remains to be seen if that Coordinator will much input into the Offensive Philosophy or be one the executes what Coach Sherman wants.

I also think that I have heard the Coach Sherman wants to run a PRO STYLE Offense.

Does that mean the Zone Read, Run Option is Out the Window?

Does it mean, the next QB will be the BEST Drop Back Passer, or one who runs the Spread and is the best at scrambling?

Maybe the next QB is Tommy Dorman or Ryan Tannehill?
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It seems to me, that you guys are sure getting up tight about a lot of specifics at a pretty early stage.

Sit back, and :popcorn: enjoy Basketball for a while until we see where this is heading.....

[Agnlaw]

Lane wears done because he is so overweight and cannot handle the carries. Yea, he wears down inferior competition but not quality competition.

Ahem... :huh:
2007, averaged 4.62 yards per carry, total 780 yards (only 10 yards lost) & 16 TD's
2006, averaged 4.37 yards per carry, total 725 yards & 19 TD's

I do think he fits better as a full-time FB (don't freak on me fellas), and okay, he's a little rotund, but based on his stats... just who would be better at pounding in 1st downs & TD's?

[The Massacre]

ttt


word. :cool:

[Superaggie79]

why ttt? :spy:

[whatashame]

I really can't wait to see what Stephens can do. I know that Sherman has said every position is up for grabs. It will be interesting....if nothing else. :popcorn:

[muybonita]

I just hope he proves me wrong & is good enough to earn some playing time...

Proof is happening as I type.