Moving the A&M/TT game help the Ags?

[Vlyrock]

There's rumors about moving the Ags/TT game to Dallas (I guess in a weak attempt to match the OU/Tex Rivalry) <-- Even though, we're not really big rivals.

Question, does keeping the game out of Lubbock help the Ags in the series? Does it hurt us taking it from Kyle?

[EconAg05]

There's rumors about moving the Ags/TT game to Dallas (I guess in a weak attempt to match the OU/Tex Rivalry) <-- Even though, we're not really big rivals.

Question, does keeping the game out of Lubbock help the Ags in the series? Does it hurt us taking it from Kyle?

Taking any home game away from Kyle is a bad thing (for me at least) and should never be done IMO. The only thing well get out of moving the game out of lubbutt is *maybe* increased security but with the history of tektards, i wouldn't put anything past them. I say we leave it how it is. They're not our true rival and there is no reason to glorify that game.

[Slotback]

This is a bad idea. Now if 2 games are played there, with each team giving up 1 game, then fine. I think we can all live with that.

[AggieWill]

This move is beyond stupid.

I love our rivalry between us and TT but it isnt worth moving to a neutral site.

[RNUOVR]

Stupid, stupid, stupid. No. In no way am I for this. Damnit.

[Loftin]

They barely get 50,000 fans for home games. How are the tards gonna get almost 40,000 to make the LONG drive to Dallas? This might be a financial disaster.

[TwelfthAG]

They barely get 50,000 fans for home games. How are the tards gonna get almost 40,000 to make the LONG drive to Dallas? This might be a financial disaster.

We'll just make it "North Kyle Field North" and fill the whole stadium. :cheesy:

[MarylandAG]

Not a good idea, enough said!

[CHHS_Aggie]

I have to agree with Maryland it is a stupid idea.

[CoolaidWade]

No amount of money is worth being a freaking joke to everyone else. The A&M/TT game will never compare to the UT/OU game and it's like we are trying to copy them.

A terrible idea! :mad:

[texag005]

Personally I do'nt think it's a good idea, but if it happens and it kind of sounds like it's going to happen, i have to agree that should it occur in dallas, we just make the cotton bowl Kyle Field North. I'm not worried about it, we'll BEAT THE EVER LIVING FIGHTIN TEXAS AGGIE HELL OUTTA tech anyways!

[AggieWill]

Neutral game sites are pretty incredible.

Georgia/Florida in Jacksonville is arguably the best neutral game site over UT/OU, imo.

[Vlyrock]

Here's a new article from the Houston Chronicle. It says Tech and A&M are in informal discussions now and that's it. This year's game will not be affected.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/fb/fbc/3236887


Hope it doesn't happen next year, because I wouldn't want to give up the HFA at Kyle. :) Make Tech move the game to Dallas first.... :)

[sarge07]

very bad idea!!!

[12thman]

there arent ehough seats to hold a 1/3 of the A&M fans. then you have to have seats for those tech tards

[polish]

Bad, bad plan, i'd never get to go. For students UT and Tech, and right now OU are the biggest games. Don't take that away.

[CHHS_Aggie]

I still think its a stupid idea and I don't want to see the game at the Cotton Bowl. But if they do move to Dallas they should wait tell the new Cowboys Stadium is built then hold the game there and we would be able to fit more Ags in the new stadium.

[12thman]

no that wouldnt work either, tech doesnt play well in a good stadium. :p haha

[CHHS_Aggie]

I'm just saying if this happens they need to start it once the new stadium is built and just keep going home and home tell it is built.

[CoolaidWade]

Terrible suck ass idea. On too many levels.....

1. Moving any game out of Kyle is bad. Money out of pocket.
2. No recruiting issues. The game is just hours away.
3. A&M/TT will never be UT/OU. It's freaking embarrassing.
4. The cotton bowl is the biggest piece of dump on the face of the earth. Why it hasen't been condemned yet is beyond me.

[Slotback]

The more I think about it, the less I like the idea-under any circumstances.

[12thman]

how far is Lubbock from Dallas?

[Loftin]

1. The Cotton Bowl is a dump.
2. Texas Tech is not our rival.
3. Taking the Tech game away from Kyle every other year and replacing it with a home game against a D-IAA or crappy D-IA opponent is not a fair trade.
4. This just makes A&M look bad.
5. Texas Tech is not our rival.
6. For those of you saying you won't go to Lubbock after the incident, how many of you actually travel to away games anyway? Baylor and Texas are usually the only ones that a lot of Ags travel to.
7. This looks like a wannabe RRS.
8. Texas Tech is not our rival.
9. Tech is a tough, CONFERENCE opponent where a win is needed and home field advantage is also needed.
10. Did I mention that Texas Tech is not our rival?

[CHHS_Aggie]

Settle Killer. We understand its a stupid idea and that Tech isn't out rival.

[EconAg05]

I dont think he mentioned that tceh is not our rival

[Loftin]

No offense to Tech people, but seriously, our rivalry has always been with Texas and making our game against Tech in any way special undermines that. I really can't stress enough how much I don't like this idea. I've already done the "email Bill Byrne" thing on AggieAthletics.com to let him know how I feel about it. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one, either.

[redraider217]

Taking any home game away from Kyle is a bad thing (for me at least) and should never be done IMO. The only thing well get out of moving the game out of lubbutt is *maybe* increased security but with the history of tektards, i wouldn't put anything past them. I say we leave it how it is. They're not our true rival and there is no reason to glorify that game.


whether or not were youre TRUE rival we are you rival....at least the series is close. the texas series is more of a blowout than a rivalry. i like the lubbutt and techtards comments.....really doesnt make us look all that bad when others call us names

[redraider217]

i guess maybe its a status thing....you dont want to be the school that has to be rivals with #3 tech. you want the big daddy texas. but how does it make you guys feel when texas people denounce the tamu rivalry (and you know they do)

the simple fact that all threads can one way or another be linked to the fact that you dont like tech and you keep having to reiterate that tech is not your rival NOT YOUR RIVAL tech is not our rival......that proves in itself that tech is a rival. argue it all you want but every aggie i have ever hung out with in CS admits it to be true. even the 2 football players i have met. u may not see it as a rivalry but i guarntee you the teams do

[12thman]

REDRAIDER217 who is techs rival? just answer me that

[polish]

Texas is the Archrival . And Tech and OU are really be big games

[Loftin]

but how does it make you guys feel when texas people denounce the tamu rivalry (and you know they do)

It's all an act. They do it for the SOLE purpose of irritating us. That's why they love the "atmosphere" of the RRS, it gives them one weekend where they can act like they aren't our rival.

Tech is a rival, but not our arch-rival. I think that our rivalry with Tech is equal to our rivalry with OU and Baylor. Sure, it's a rivalry, but Texas is our ARCH rival. Talk to any Horn in person(not on a message board), and they will tell you that A&M is their rival.

"Texas Fight! Texas Fight! So it's good-bye to A&M!"
-Quote from Texas' fight song

"Saw varsity's horns off! Saw varsity's horns off!
Saw varsity's horns off! SHORT! AAAAAAAAA!"
-Quote from Texas A&M's fight song

[Vlyrock]

Agreed...plus any in-state school is a rival -- whether you acknowledge it or not.

[CoolaidWade]

I wouldn't say Tech is a rival as much as they are annoying as hell. And the fact they light us up on a regular basis seems to contribute alot to that annoying factor.

That freaking game is always scary as hell and it would be dumb to take it out of Kyle.

[AggieWill]

Making games at a neutral site is for BIG rivalries.

Us and TT aren't that big.

[TwelfthAG]

Why ever have neutral games? That's just one less opportunity to be at Kyle every other year.

[AggieWill]

Why ever have neutral games? That's just one less opportunity to be at Kyle every other year.

Because they can be a LOT of fun.

The Red River shoot out and the Worlds Biggest Outdoor Cocktail parties......are better then a home game, imo.

[redraider217]

Making games at a neutral site is for BIG rivalries.

Us and TT aren't that big.


agreed.... that is about the best way to sum it up. we are not your BIG rival but were definatly #2....even if you dont acknowledge a #2....... Baylor doesnt deserve a rival lol and besides...in all honesty TCU is historically Baylors rival. The game should stay where it is and if they move it i will be PISSED.....

[TwelfthAG]

I can't find one person happy about this, at A&M or Tech. I hope our ADs are listening.

[TwelfthAG]

Tech Articles on the subject:

http://www.redraiders.com/stories/062605/foo_062605045.shtml

http://www.redraiders.com/stories/062605/big_062605043.shtml

[Loftin]

I can't find one person happy about this

Go to HornFans, they are loving this.

[CHHS_Aggie]

Go to HornFans.

Rep -1, J/K, but don't ever suggest that human display of fecal matter to another human being.

[TwelfthAG]

Go to HornFans, they are loving this.

I bet, ugh. :mad:

[AggieWill]

Hornfans gets happy about anything that A&M is arguing about.

Shows how hypocritical their "A&M is always talking about us" arguments are

[redraider217]

i dont want to move the game because it hurts tech big time......tamu has a bigger fan base and so the game may as well be a tamu home game. plus,,, why keep adding on to our stadium if our big games are only gonna get moved....tamu as well... werent we your maroon out game last season?

[Loftin]

i dont want to move the game because it hurts tech big time......tamu has a bigger fan base and so the game may as well be a tamu home game. plus,,, why keep adding on to our stadium if our big games are only gonna get moved....tamu as well... werent we your maroon out game last season?

Kyle Field holds 82,600 VERY EXPENSIVE seats(although for a Big 12 South game, we likely get about 84,000). That means that every other year we'd lose money in ticket sales by going to the Cotton Bowl. If Tech adds on to their stadium, the capacity advantage won't be by as much as it is now.

This is a big home game for both teams and I don't think that anybody wins here. We are in the same state and the same conference, and we're both good teams. This cheats season ticket holders out of one of the top 3 home games every other year, for both schools.

Yeah, if Tech gets 50,000 to go to home games, what makes anyone think they are going to bring the 35,000 or so half crowd to the Cotton Bowl that's several hours away?

Yes, Tech was the maroon out game. The last home game of every season is the maroon out game.

[txaggie07]

this is an absolutely terrible idea. the only reason why theyre doing this is to make more money. they dont lose a home game because there's gonna be 12, but more than likely that home game will be sam houston or something like that. i emailed byrne about it after his weekly column and i suggest that you guys do the same just so he knows how many people are against this. although i dont think it will matter. hopefully dollar bill wont live up to his name on this one.

[redraider217]

man i seriously doubt we can fill our half of the cotton bowl..... but i have small hope.... we managed to bring 15000to san diego and when we play AT SMU we make their whole stadium red lol. its so funny because they get booed at their home stadium when its over run by visiting teams

[TwelfthAG]

Y'all are playing at SMU!?!
That's going to be crazy!

[redraider217]

no no no....not this year.... i meant when we play smu....like we usually do. we dont play the again till next year though..... sorry. we played @ smu kliffs senior year.....vs smu bj's year and @ smu last season.


(went to both games at smu and it was HILARIOUS)

[Loftin]

Somebody will lose money if this deal happens. No matter how much money the Cotton Bowl guarantees both teams, it can't profit as opposed to what the teams would get on their own. The game is already on ABC, so it's not like they can offer us TV money that we don't already get.

[CHHS_Aggie]

Its a bad idea and thats all there is to say about it.

[Loftin]

Its a bad idea and thats all there is to say about it.

Amen!

[TwelfthAG]

Looks like the vote is 106 to 0

[CHHS_Aggie]

Awesome.

[TwelfthAG]

At this rate it'll be infinitybillion in no time

[redraider217]

oh please oh please oh please dont take the game away from the jones!!!

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Shrek_2_Cat-eyes_L-01.jpg



if that dont convince you ..... consider yourself without a heart

[CHHS_Aggie]

oh please oh please oh please dont take the game away from the jones!!!

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Shrek_2_Cat-eyes_L-01.jpg



if that dont convince you ..... consider yourself without a heart

Saw Shrek 2 a week or so ago. Rep +1

[redraider217]

rep + 1????

[CHHS_Aggie]

Reputation points

[CHHS_Aggie]

Reputation Link (http://www.aggiefans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=765&highlight=Reputation)


This might explain the reputation question.

[redraider217]

for me, CHHS, shrek, or the cat?

[CHHS_Aggie]

I don't know

[TwelfthAG]

redraider217, you have 22 rep points.. meaning people have thought you had a post good enough to vote postivitly 22 times :)

[redraider217]

oh god im so lost

[CHHS_Aggie]

That stinks I only have 18 :cry:

[TwelfthAG]

That stinks I only have 18 :cry:

lol, you have less than the raider :D

[CoolaidWade]

I have even less the the Red Raider.... :(

[Loftin]

I've been at 28 for awhile now.

[sportsfan1]

I'm sure I will shortly have negative rep points.

[redraider217]

how do you guys know rep points?

[TwelfthAG]

how do you guys know rep points?

Click http://www.aggiefans.com/forums/images/buttons/reputation.gif under your name to see how many you have.
Click http://www.aggiefans.com/forums/images/buttons/reputation.gif under other people's names to give or take away points.

:gig:

[jagowar]

I voted yes (the only one :)) for one reason only.... never having to go back to the craphole known as lubbock and jones sbc tractorpull stadium.

[EconAg05]

i hate the idea of us losing a game at Kyle, but the money, and not having to go to lubbutt will be positive in my book :gig:

[Loftin]

I HATE this idea so much it's not even funny. Most A&M and Tech fans feel EXACTLY like I do.

[TwelfthAG]

Alright, who voted for option 1???? :mad:

[redraider217]

I voted yes (the only one :)) for one reason only.... never having to go back to the craphole known as lubbock and jones sbc tractorpull stadium.


cute.....how many times have you been to "tractor pull stadium?"

and of those times.....how many times did tech win?

[TwelfthAG]

cute.....how many times have you been to "tractor pull stadium?"

and of those times.....how many times did tech win?


I'd say this look like crap:
http://football.ballparks.com/NCAA/Big12/TexasTech/aerial.jpg

Now that it looks like this
http://ib1.campusnetwork.com/lun1/exhibition_view/1a/51/dade3beb6d1a9078232e51480d11c2af.jpg
we have less to make fun of...

[Loftin]

I wasn't at the infamous game when the goalpost was thrust into the A&M section, but I can't imagine going to a game in Lubbock is that bad usually. When you go to an away game, you are in enemy territory. Some people don't seem to understand that. I personally want to keep this game at Kyle and Jones rather than Dallas.

If we do a neutral site game, let's make a new rivalry with LSU or Arkansas and play at Reliant.

[Raider Insider]

I voted that it would help the aggies because I think it will. Take away Tech's home field advantage and A&M will win a lot more of those games.

[TwelfthAG]

I think by moving it to Dallas we are accepting that we are the second teir of Texas Athletics. There will be the great OU/tu game and the not as good TAMU/tech game.

[redraider217]

I'd say this look like crap:
http://football.ballparks.com/NCAA/Big12/TexasTech/aerial.jpg

Now that it looks like this
http://ib1.campusnetwork.com/lun1/exhibition_view/1a/51/dade3beb6d1a9078232e51480d11c2af.jpg
we have less to make fun of...


oh hell it aint that big of a deal....i mean this IS another schools site and i cant imagine everyone here likes lubbock. but it is another thing to just jup on the lubbock sucks bandwagon having never visited. i know i heard that CS was a tiny little town with a big ass college and that there was no reason to go there, yet every time i do i still have fun

[RNUOVR]

I have visited Lubbock. It is in the middle of nowhere - you have to drive about the last two hours through the most boring, flat, dry farm lanscape you can imagine. It becomes very monotonous. The town itself is nothing to write home about and looks like the surrounding desert. That and it has the drawbacks of tumbleweeds that scratch people's cars, dust storms, it's a dry county, and oh yeah, it snows there in the winter.

College Station is trumped up waaay too much by Aggies, I will admit. It isn't that great. Sorry. BUT, it IS better than Lubbock. First of all, it is GREEN. That just helps my mental health. There are no dust storms or tumbleweeds. It doesn't snow. (I know snow is a novelty to Texans but the fun wears of QUICK.) You can buy beer or booze by just walking from where you live to the store or bar. That, and it is 1.5 hours from Houston, about 2 hours or so from Austin and however far from the METROplex. It isn't 8 hours from civilization like Lubbock where you feel like you are stuck in some remote desert outpost on an alien planet inhabited by a strange species of STD infected drunken riot causing humanoids known as the race of Tcehtards.

[RNUOVR]

I wasn't at the infamous game when the goalpost was thrust into the A&M section, but I can't imagine going to a game in Lubbock is that bad usually. When you go to an away game, you are in enemy territory. Some people don't seem to understand that. I personally want to keep this game at Kyle and Jones rather than Dallas.

Oh, but it is. I've been there. I've written up my horror stories about it on this site already. You should go and see for yourself. I've allways said, the Ags who lack the burning hatred of all things Tceh are the ones who haven't been to an away game at SBC. I'm going back, just because I think that if we expect the team to go there, survive the abuse of that hellhole, and win, then we need to go there too and support them.

[RNUOVR]

All that said, move the game? Hell no. I will miss the home game at Kyle and that is a horrible copycat game that makes us second fiddle to the sips.

[redraider217]

I have visited Lubbock. It is in the middle of nowhere - you have to drive about the last two hours through the most boring, flat, dry farm lanscape you can imagine. It becomes very monotonous. The town itself is nothing to write home about and looks like the surrounding desert. That and it has the drawbacks of tumbleweeds that scratch people's cars, dust storms, it's a dry county, and oh yeah, it snows there in the winter.

College Station is trumped up waaay too much by Aggies, I will admit. It isn't that great. Sorry. BUT, it IS better than Lubbock. First of all, it is GREEN. That just helps my mental health. There are no dust storms or tumbleweeds. It doesn't snow. (I know snow is a novelty to Texans but the fun wears of QUICK.) You can buy beer or booze by just walking from where you live to the store or bar. That, and it is 1.5 hours from Houston, about 2 hours or so from Austin and however far from the METROplex. It isn't 8 hours from civilization like Lubbock where you feel like you are stuck in some remote desert outpost on an alien planet inhabited by a strange species of STD infected drunken riot causing humanoids known as the race of Tcehtards.


you feel like you are stuck in some remote desert outpost on an alien planet inhabited by a strange species of STD infected drunken riot causing humanoids known as the race of Tcehtards

i guess with that statement you were trying to show everyone your ass?

so cs is better than lubbock....why just because you live there? your previous statement already proved your bias therefore rendering you unable to produce an objective opinion. And last time i looked out the window lubbock was green..... there may be dirt farms outside but south lubbock is especially green. you should get out more. And i am not even going to argue with you about snow.... i havent ever heard anyone complain about SNOW....thats a bit of a stretch. also having lived here since 2001 i have yet to reciece a single scratch from tumble weed...... lay off the wild wild west movies.

[Loftin]

Offseason has hit a new alltime low with CS vs. Lubbock weather smack.

[Slotback]

This just in....the masses for both teams agree that this is a bad idea and needs to be killed off ASAP.

[redraider217]

agreed.... im done.


just seems that RNUOVER always has a crappy comment for anythign and everything tech. makes it hard to have a decent conversation.

[Dustin00whoop]

How about this...my in-laws live in Lubbock & my father-in-law is willing to take a massive pay-cut just to get out. He has been in the cotton seed business since '84 & of course, as you move up in that industry the closer you get to Lubbock. Well, now he is a regional sales manager, living in Lubbock & he is willing to get out of the cotton seed business completely, start all over in his career, just to get out of Lubbock. That isn't weather smack, college smack, or anything else. Its just one person's views of the town.

[EconAg05]

Offseason has hit a new alltime low with CS vs. Lubbock weather smack.

lol werd :D

[redraider217]

How about this...my in-laws live in Lubbock & my father-in-law is willing to take a massive pay-cut just to get out. He has been in the cotton seed business since '84 & of course, as you move up in that industry the closer you get to Lubbock. Well, now he is a regional sales manager, living in Lubbock & he is willing to get out of the cotton seed business completely, start all over in his career, just to get out of Lubbock. That isn't weather smack, college smack, or anything else. Its just one person's views of the town.

Its just one person's views of the town.


there you just summed it up in one sentence. it is just one persons view, therefore it has no bearing on what is going on right now.

[redraider217]

out of curiousity.....did ur uncle go to tamu?

[Slotback]

Lock the thread quick, before it completely melts down into cotton seed smack.

[Vlyrock]

I'm just amazed that there's been 110 votes for no...didn't know that many people voted....how did that work out?

[Slotback]

It's because the masses are speaking.

[TwelfthAG]

Survey Results Show Lubbock Businesses Want TTU, A&M Game To Stay (http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=3543906)

[Loftin]

I'm just amazed that there's been 110 votes for no...didn't know that many people voted....how did that work out?

This is an issue that a vast majority of Aggies feel VERY strongly against.

[AggieWill]

I'm just amazed that there's been 110 votes for no...didn't know that many people voted....how did that work out?

I see 61 votes for no :confused: