Anyone heard this rumor?

[Aggie91]

I realize I have nothing to back this up (I don't have any sources etc..)--but I heard today that Fran could be gone (very soon) for violating NCAA rules.

However, he didn't violate any rules did he? I don't think BB would fire him so quickly. Anyway, I just heard it today and thought I'd ask yall if you'd heard anything like this.

[spazdout]

Frans been on the hotseat since last year, the miami game and the newsletter have pretty much sealed the deal....its just a matter of when not if.

[aggie1997]

BB has stated several times that it is his policy to wait until the end of the season to determine the future of a coach. The NCAA violations that have been broken are minor in scope. Nothing that should get us sanctioned. Therefore, I would be really surprised if anything happens to Fran prior to the end of the season. I think people are just frustrated and saying things they wish would happen rather than what they know to be true.

[spazdout]

i highly doubt that he'll get fired during the season as well, i trusts BB on that statement, it would take something completely stupid to get him fired during the season.

[Vlyrock]

Head coaches don't get fired in the middle of the season (in Football). It NEVER happens. The only time it happens is when the coaches do the "pre-bowl game shuffle" and even then, it's the end of the regular season. So, if anything happens, expect it to be the end of November.

[Mac94]

Vlyrock -

Technically, thats not true .... it is rare, but coaches have gotten fired in "mid" season before. Now, they almost always finish out the year as a lame duck coach ... but the "firing" and announcement has been done during the season, North Carolina did it as did Florida with Zook.

[spazdout]

as i said it would have to be an extreme circumstance to be removed during the season i.e. murder, gambling on the team on the side, paying athletes etc.

[oklacityag75]

...extreme circumstance...aka... losing the entire team. Saturday was the most uninspired performance since zeroU in 2003. It appears our team is totally deflated.

Now our offense is as inept as our defense. The infection is spreading.......

How much more damage are you willing to allow? Our program has already been sent back to the Hank Foldberg days.

[4thgenerationag]

I think Koenning (sp?) as HC would be my worst nightmare.

[aggie1997]

I think Koenning (sp?) as HC would be my worst nightmare.

Darnell.

[12th man fan]

Yes, Darnell would be worse.

[spazdout]

i think BB should be the interim coach

[Pokes28]

I would think that the only reason that Fran would be terminated before the end of the season would be if it was determined that the University could get out of the buy-out by his actions. The problem is that it happened early enough that if what he did is bad enough to trigger a buy-out clause then it should be bad enough to get rid of him mid-season. Lack of action will very likely amount to having to pay him.

David Harrell - Pokes
dwh

[Texags Refugee]

You are not considering that he may have already been fired and that we are currently contacting/asking permission to contact replacement coaches. Just b/c it has not been announced to the public, does not mean it has not happened.

[pabloknight]

Just read that Nubb fired their AD today.

Do you all think BB will dump Fran asap to keep heat off his position?

[aggie1997]

You are not considering that he may have already been fired and that we are currently contacting/asking permission to contact replacement coaches. Just b/c it has not been announced to the public, does not mean it has not happened.

This is very possible. I am sure there is a lot to the story that the general public doesn't know. Heck, I guess the VIP Connection subscribers don't even know.

That is how BB operates.

[aggie1997]

Just read that Nubb fired their AD today.

Do you all think BB will dump Fran asap to keep heat off his position?

I honestly do not feel there is any heat on BB. He is an excellent AD that has improved Aggie Athletics in every area (except football and that is coming). I don't know why anyone would perceive this situation to be his fault.

[spazdout]

Just read that Nubb fired their AD today.

Do you all think BB will dump Fran asap to keep heat off his position?

not quite...i think with brynes other success' at A&M he is pretty clear of his job being in jeopardy...plus the interim president really won't do anything.

[Slotback]

Whatever action is being taken, is being done now. It's all behind the scenes with the lawyers.

[TexAgFromCal]

He can't be fired for the NCAA violations until the NCAA has completed their investigation and found violations in an official finding. My stance is the reason BB pushed so hard to get everything out there is twofold:

1. Putting everything on the table so quickly shows the NCAA that he wants to open and honest about it. As well as showing them that he is serious about getting this resolved.

2. This allows the NCAA to investigate quickly and come to their final conclusions BY the end of the season.

Section 2.3 Fran agrees that as a duty and condition of employment hereunder Fran will not:

(c) engage in any business transactions or fommerce, or personal action or appear on any radio or television programs, that may cause discredit to the university;

(d) knowlingly engage in, support, or tolerate any action violative of any governing constitution, by-law, rules, regulation, policy or procedure of teh CONFERENCE, or the NCAA, or the UNIVERSITY.


Section 2.4 of his contract states "....If he is found to be in violation of NCAA regulations after an OPPORTUNITY FOR A HEARING BEFORE AN NCAA COMMITTEE, he shall be subject to disciplinary or corrective action...."

Combine this with the termination clause 5.1 Fran can be suspended without pay or terminated if:

(a) fran shall negligently or intentionally fail to fulfill the duties or conditions described in sections 2.1 through 2.5...

[Texags Refugee]

I am sure it will never get to that point. Our lawyers will threaten to drag this out for a long time or offer a settlement to Fran. To avoid a lengthy process, Fran will likely agree to the settlement. Bottom line, we will pay Fran something, but it wont be the full 6 million.

[The Massacre]

Just read that Nubb fired their AD today.

Do you all think BB will dump Fran asap to keep heat off his position?

i don't think so. BB has done great things for all of Aggie athletics. I don't think his job is in any danger or has any heat.

[SHAG69]

Head coaches don't get fired in the middle of the season (in Football). It NEVER happens. The only time it happens is when the coaches do the "pre-bowl game shuffle" and even then, it's the end of the regular season. So, if anything happens, expect it to be the end of November.


I hope you are wrong. If Fran violated Ncaa rules, the regents or whomever, will NOT have to buy Fran out. and he could very well be gone this week (I hope). :gig:

[TexAgFromCal]

I hope you are wrong. If Fran violated Ncaa rules, the regents or whomever, will NOT have to buy Fran out. and he could very well be gone this week (I hope). :gig:


ONLY THE NCAA CAN DECIDE IF HE BROKE THE RULES.


That decision can only be made after a full hearing by the NCAA. That is what it will take to get out of his contract. It won't be done mid season for secondary violations.

[SHAG69]

ONLY THE NCAA CAN DECIDE IF HE BROKE THE RULES.


That decision can only be made after a full hearing by the NCAA. That is what it will take to get out of his contract. It won't be done mid season for secondary violations.

No, they could fire him pending the results of the ncaa and pay him if they are wrong.

[TexAgFromCal]

Actually they will have to pay him until the ncaa provides their report. Then attempt to collect back from him to whatever time is deemed appropriate.

Besides I would much rather have a university that follows their contracts with coaches and makes decisions accordign to that contract. AND we gain nothing by firing him now. We would gain nothing by firing him now over firing him as he walks off the field after texas.