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whitelightnin_23
10-14-2007, 12:11 AM
Please be articulate & specify why you believe whether coaching or execution
was the PRIMARY reason for our loss today...

I'm not too sure there were any play calls that I necessarily disagree with...
The defense was NOT ready...
but also didn't make plays when they were there to be made...

Honestly, I'm thoroughly confused & have no idea on which is more to "blame"...

Your thoughts?

jagowar
10-14-2007, 12:14 AM
its both... if this was one game i would say its the execution but we have seen a very long pattern of these performances so it has to be coaching (or lack thereof)

whitelightnin_23
10-14-2007, 12:14 AM
Fran (post-game):
I'm surprised they ran the ball as much as they did...why??? YOU were rushing 3 the entire game...:bored:

LBs didn't see the screens/slants

Also post-game conference:
Our guys have been focussed & our coaches have done all they need to do...that's some bs right there...

Mole
10-14-2007, 12:15 AM
I thought we gave up on running the ball to early. We seemed to go with the pass when the run was working just fine and it blew up in our faces. Then we go behind and everything went downhill from there.

whitelightnin_23
10-14-2007, 12:16 AM
its both... if this was one game i would say its the execution but we have seen a very long pattern of these performances so it has to be coaching (or lack thereof)

maybe that's why I'm so confused...

watching the game objectively, I see execution...but when you drill down...as to WHY they execute (or mis-execute)...you get to the root...everything eventually goes back to coaching.

whitelightnin_23
10-14-2007, 12:16 AM
I thought we gave up on running the ball to early. We seemed to go with the pass when the run was working just fine and it blew up in our faces. Then we go behind and everything went downhill from there.

but last week, the passes helped set up the run...if they could respect the pass/play-action...it would have opened the run more...

CoolaidWade
10-14-2007, 12:18 AM
I have no clue. I'm going with both. I had no problem with our offensive game plan..... In the first quarter. Then Tech adjusted and we had nothing. And never really tried to re-adjust.

Mole
10-14-2007, 12:18 AM
but last week, the passes helped set up the run...if they could respect the pass/play-action...it would have opened the run more...

I agree, except this week the pass just got us behind.

November Echo
10-14-2007, 12:18 AM
We looked good making tech go 3 and out on their first possession and scoring on our first drive.

We then stopped them again and drove the ball into the red zone.

But tech made some adjustments (coaching) and our D didn't stop 'em much after that.

Had we made those FGs (execution).....it wouldn't have changed much...

Looks like the Aggies got out-coached, again.

:popcorn:

whitelightnin_23
10-14-2007, 12:19 AM
It's almost like a chess player who has the 9 moves (the goal # of moves to put someone in checkmate)...but when the opposing player does something unscripted...he short-circuits & lays his king down (he's defeated)...

legelegel
10-14-2007, 12:21 AM
You've got to have your mind straight to play at this level. The minds of players and coaches have been a little distracted to say the least this week.

whitelightnin_23
10-14-2007, 12:23 AM
^
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no excuse....

I see what you're saying, but there is no excuse for that.

If you're playing for a NC, or a major bowl, you're going to have "distractions" as well...
Distractions can be positive. Media attention, good or bad...is a distraction...and we have proved (over and over) that we do not do well on the big stage...

legelegel
10-14-2007, 12:26 AM
^
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no excuse....

I see what you're saying, but there is no excuse for that.

If you're playing for a NC, or a major bowl, you're going to have "distractions" as well...
Distractions can be positive. Media attention, good or bad...is a distraction...and we have proved (over and over) that we do not do well on the big stage...

There's a difference betweem internal and external distractions, and there is far too much internal here right now. They have got to get their minds straight and take advantage of the rest of the season.

whitelightnin_23
10-14-2007, 12:28 AM
I agree about the difference...but the fact remains, the team has shown an inability to play with ANY distraction (good OR bad)...

legelegel
10-14-2007, 12:32 AM
I agree about the difference...but the fact remains, the team has shown an inability to play with ANY distraction (good OR bad)...

They got it together after being 17 points down at the half a week ago. The internal distractions had started several days before that game.

MarylandAG
10-14-2007, 12:32 AM
Probably a little of both. However, you've played tech several years as a head coach here, you know what they are about and you still can't stop it? Coaching! I know it is difficult to compare, but UTEP put up something like 30 pts on this tech team, and no one can tell me the Miners have the fire power we do, yes new d-coord now, but even so, come on!

whitelightnin_23
10-14-2007, 12:33 AM
as I said in post #10...it's like we have our game plan...and don't have any other way to win...

uh-oh...they shut that down...guess we'll just keep trying because we can't win anyways else...

legelegel
10-14-2007, 12:37 AM
Their coach has been reprimanded for sharing confidential information about them with others. How would you feel? Would it undermine what you were doing on the playing field?

They have to find a way to get over it.

whitelightnin_23
10-14-2007, 12:41 AM
so you're saying it's coaching...for putting the distraction in their place?

a mentally tough athlete should be able to block that out...

that being said...it would be tough to play for someone you don't respect (IF that is the case...I don't have enough of a pulse of our team to definitively make that call).

legelegel
10-14-2007, 12:43 AM
so you're saying it's coaching...for putting the distraction in their place?

a mentally tough athlete should be able to block that out...

that being said...it would be tough to play for someone you don't respect (IF that is the case...I don't have enough of a pulse of our team to definitively make that call).

I don't either. But I can tell you this, a male athlete will play for a coach he dislikes, but a female athlete will not.

I have to go for now. Keep your heads up kids.

Superaggie79
10-14-2007, 12:46 AM
I'm convinced the first quarter gameplan wasnt as great as everyone thought. Leach seemed to just be trying to get through the quarter so that they could get the wind. Then he just turned it on they didn't adjust anything. He pretty much did the same thing in the third quarter. Their plan was to beat us in 2 quarters with the wind. Our offense isn't really controlled by the wind however we did nothing after the first drive.

whitelightnin_23
10-14-2007, 12:54 AM
one thing the announcers said (several times) in this and last week's game...is that

our offense "isn't built to come back from this kind of lead"...or to come back from 3rd & long...

doesn't that kind of have to be a necessity at this level???
I mean, if 17 points is the biggest comeback in school history...:spy:

texasaggies_13
10-14-2007, 08:58 AM
Who ever is to blame for this debacle?????

Mezentius
10-14-2007, 01:04 PM
It's evident that for the last say 10 years there has been no offensive identity. I mean in Fran's tenure we've gone from a quick strike/multiple offense to this bizaar conglomoration of the option and the non passing game.

The first quarter I thought to myself, "finally consistency in the execution on offense...then of course out came the smoke draw and changing up to fool folks."

This was going on before Fran and we need a coach that will bring consistency to the program. I'm tired of mediocrity at $70 a ticket.

SHAG69
10-14-2007, 01:22 PM
Coaching or Execution?

How about executing the coaches?

TexAgFromCal
10-14-2007, 02:06 PM
There is no reason the same play should burn us multiple times in the same game for so many yards. AND they have done it year after year. THAT IS COACHING. Not having a defense that can stop that, (OTHERS DO) is coaching. IF you want to lay it at not having athletic enough players, THAT IS COACHING. Having players "out of position" every year against the same team, THAT IS COACHING.

texasaggies_13
10-14-2007, 02:09 PM
It\'s evident that for the last say 10 years there has been no offensive identity. I mean in Fran\'s tenure we\'ve gone from a quick strike/multiple offense to this bizaar conglomoration of the option and the non passing game.

The first quarter I thought to myself, "finally consistency in the execution on offense...then of course out came the smoke draw and changing up to fool folks."

This was going on before Fran and we need a coach that will bring consistency to the program. I\'m tired of mediocrity at $70 a ticket.

Well recruiting isn\'t the issue for sure like some are stating. It\'s kinda like making a soldier go attack the enemy with blanks; you can be the best soldier in the world, but the blanks are useless. So yes, Fran is giving our guys blanks

Vlyrock
10-14-2007, 02:29 PM
There is no reason the same play should burn us multiple times in the same game for so many yards. AND they have done it year after year. THAT IS COACHING. Not having a defense that can stop that, (OTHERS DO) is coaching. IF you want to lay it at not having athletic enough players, THAT IS COACHING. Having players "out of position" every year against the same team, THAT IS COACHING.
nobody's stopped Tech's offense yet, so you can't really use that as an argument. I think the timing and playcalling on Tech's side was brilliant. They called those Crabtree screen passes on the few plays where we were blitzing and it burned us. Definitely got outcoached (or Harrell made some great audibles at the line).

macduff93
10-14-2007, 02:34 PM
It doesn't take brilliance to out coach Fran. :bored: