Is Dennis gone no matter what? [Archive]

Conan

10-13-2007, 01:47 AM

I recently decided that Dennis is fired no matter what. Even if we go 13-1 I feel like BB is done with Dennis for good. He will not be coming back to coach in 2008.

Question: Even if we go 13-1 with a BCS bowl win, do you believe that Dennis will be fired?

Personally, yes

Gigem

Dustin00whoop

10-13-2007, 01:51 AM

Nothing else matters.............not even all the wins left. WE WILL HAVE A NEW COACH IN '08!!!!

Conan

10-13-2007, 02:01 AM

Nothing else matters.............not even all the wins left. WE WILL HAVE A NEW COACH IN '08!!!!

I really do agree.

CoolaidWade

10-13-2007, 03:30 AM

Nothing else matters.............not even all the wins left. WE WILL HAVE A NEW COACH IN '08!!!!

I agree. Although I think that is not good news at all. In fact, I think that is ****ed up news and were moving backwards.

JonesyMan

10-13-2007, 08:29 AM

My biggest fear is that we win maybe one or two games before the end of the season, Fran gets fired, and JJ, Lane, McGee, Money-B, most of our top recruits, hell maybe even Goodson, all decide to leave as well. Then not only are we rebuilding with a new coach, but we will also have a very bare cupboard starting from scratch just like in 2002. Good God this season has become a nightmare.

texags08

10-13-2007, 08:39 AM

whitelightnin_23

10-13-2007, 09:03 AM

GuatemalanAg

10-13-2007, 09:14 AM

If the team wins out he's gonna be back...

Stobie

10-13-2007, 09:17 AM

No he wont..... he broke the trust of BB and that is not taken lightly.... and personally I just came to the realization... I love being an Aggie and I want my head football coach to reflect what an Aggie is and you know the phrase.....

Aggies dont lie, cheat, or steal and do not tolerate those who do. That also goes for someone disgracing this university!

BigJohn

10-13-2007, 09:25 AM

I thnk the only thing that could possibly save his job is winning the Big XII and winning a BCS bowl. Even then, I think he's still on the cusp and he may have to renegotiate his contract.

If he gets canned, the best he could possibly do is be a coordinator or maybe a HC at some small school.

GuatemalanAg

10-13-2007, 09:44 AM

If the team wins out he's gonna be back...
I hope I'm wrong...

Loftin

10-13-2007, 09:54 AM

BB called this situation "embarrassing" and fully disclosed all details in this incident. He fired McKenzie, and when asked if he was just a fall guy for doing what his boss (Fran) told him to do, BB responded that this will be a part of Fran's performance review.

BB has said on several occasions that he won't make a coaching change midseason, and while I don't necessarily agree with it, he will stick to his guns and wait.

Right now it looks like BB is setting everything up so that we won't have to pay Fran the whole buyout. The findings of the internal investigation made no bones about pinning this on Fran. BB publicly "admonished" Fran, described this situation as "embarrassing," and self-reported NCAA violations related to this. If BB publicly supports Fran, while compiling screw-ups by Fran that could be against his contract, then Fran may walk out of Aggieland empty handed.

TexAg77

10-13-2007, 10:22 AM

I just have a bad feeling that if we win out Byrne and the big cigars will take the wins over the embarrassment and keep him.

BigJohn

10-13-2007, 10:24 AM

From what I understand, the BMA's don't have the influence over BB to make him do whatever they want. BB will make the final decision

Pumchavas28

10-13-2007, 10:25 AM

From what I understand, the BMA's don't have the influence over BB to make him do whatever they want. BB will make the final decision

Pretty much.... BB does what he wants, not what other people want... he did that at Nebraska & is doing it here....

Vlyrock

10-13-2007, 12:19 PM

I think right now, the easy thing is to say Fran is gone (because everything is fresh). Now that the press conference happened, this is going to be old news in 3 weeks (especially if A&M keeps winning).

There's an old addage that says "WINNING CURES ALL" and I still think that holds true. If Fran wins out, nobody will be talking e-mail scandal. They'll be talking BCS Bowl and the future of A&M football.

Byrne understands football is the money making machine at A&M and to fire Fran, especially after a 13-1 season, would go against everything Byrne (AKA $ Bill) has done to this point.

With that said, I'm not sure we have the team to do this, so it's probably a safe bet that Fran is gone. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Fran stays if the 1% chance of going 13-1 actually happens.

Slotback

10-13-2007, 01:31 PM

Future results guarantee Fran's status. Win 10 and he stays. 9 maybe. 8 or less no.

Burnetaggie99

10-13-2007, 02:35 PM

I know from a very good source that 2 coaches have been called already by A&M. If thats true it looks like after Fran signs the 08 recruiting class he gone no matter what.:popcorn:

Slotback

10-13-2007, 02:36 PM

I know from a very good source that 2 coaches have been called already by A&M. If thats true it looks like after Fran signs the 08 recruiting class he gone no matter what.:popcorn:

Fascinating.

Superaggie79

10-13-2007, 05:02 PM

Can you give us a hint on what coaches that would be? I'll ask them how'd they like their office arranged.

macduff93

10-13-2007, 05:03 PM

I know from a very good source that 2 coaches have been called already by A&M. If thats true it looks like after Fran signs the 08 recruiting class he gone no matter what.:popcorn:

This is absolutely no surprise. BB is getting the jump on the talent that will be looking for a change after this season. :)

jagowar

10-13-2007, 05:04 PM

i voted no since i think he can win the big12 and be here next year but there is a microscopic chance that happens..... its still possible though.

Superaggie79

10-13-2007, 05:09 PM

Please be Tedford.... please be tedford

texasaggies_13

10-13-2007, 05:28 PM

From what I understand, the BMA\'s don\'t have the influence over BB to make him do whatever they want. BB will make the final decision

after CF.com, anything is possible

Loftin

10-13-2007, 05:29 PM

Please be Tedford.... please be tedford

His players blatantly defied him at the end of the Holiday Bowl. He called for a victory formation and they went for the TD.

We need someone who has control of his players.

Superaggie79

10-13-2007, 05:33 PM

His players blatantly defied him at the end of the Holiday Bowl. He called for a victory formation and they went for the TD.

We need someone who has control of his players.
I think our players would listen

texasaggies_13

10-13-2007, 06:20 PM

whoever thinks Fran is staying here needs to get a straight kick in the nuts.

jagowar

10-13-2007, 06:25 PM

after today its pretty much a forgone conclusion... this win was a must win if fran even had dreams of coaching here next year.

GuatemalanAg

10-13-2007, 06:26 PM

after today its pretty much a forgone conclusion... this win was a must win if fran even had dreams of coaching here next year.
I agree...

SHAG69

10-13-2007, 06:36 PM

I hope they Keel-Haul the SOB.

texasaggies_13

10-13-2007, 07:07 PM

I\'ll help pack his shyte to leave

90AG

10-13-2007, 07:16 PM

it's an easy call now that the tceh debacle is over....I dont know whether i'm happier to see him leave or Darnell...My 9 yr olds have better tackling form than the Aggie D....

After the 3rd middle screen for 30+ to crabtree across the middle, I actually broke a board on my fence with a football....

jagowar

10-13-2007, 07:18 PM

JonesyMan

10-13-2007, 07:21 PM

Dink and Dunk the motto of the Tceh offense. Yet we can't cover it for ****.

texag005

10-13-2007, 08:16 PM

That's been the motto of teams against us all season, throw the short pass, or run the draw, we can't pressure, cover or come off blocks to make tackles. Oh well, hopefully whoever the new coach brings in as D Coordinator will teach fundamentals of football.

Loftin

10-13-2007, 08:17 PM

Tech hasn't changed at all since Leach got there. They don't beat you when they catch the ball, they beat you after they catch the ball. Our defense has had a confused, "deer in the headlights" look every year since '03.

You'd think Fran would have them figured out by now. Stoops and Brown do...

BigJohn

10-13-2007, 08:44 PM

Stoops and Brown have speed on defense. That is how you beat Tech.

DarkX567

10-13-2007, 08:51 PM

I originally thought, if fran won out,including today, then he should stay. After the debacle today, not so much. Too many unprepared players, and too many downright dumb play calls to give keeping him any thought at all.

jagowar

10-13-2007, 09:06 PM

Stoops and Brown have speed on defense. That is how you beat Tech.
1. thats frans fault we dont have the same speed on D.
2. the key to beating tech is getting pressure with your front 3 or 4. we did that a little the first 2 drives and were somewhat successful defending them.

Loftin

10-13-2007, 09:44 PM

Stoops and Brown have speed on defense. That is how you beat Tech.

1. You beat TTU by putting pressure on Harrell. In our last 2 trips to Lubbock, we've lined up in a 3-3-5(today) or 1-10(2005) defense.

2. Fran is responsible for recruiting our talent. This roster is 100% Fran recruits. If the cupboard is bare, it's because he didn't stock it.

texasaggies_13

10-13-2007, 09:58 PM

So Fran sucks is the bottomline? I\'ve known that since TCU

Conan

10-13-2007, 10:05 PM

Dennis is gone. He sucks at calling plays, sucks at preparing for games (especially), sucks at hiring a good coaching staff, sucks at using our talent and he's a weak little weasel of a man. Couldn't be man enough to face his players at TCU or Alabama and also had his little VIP newsletter secret. He's pathetic...
Even if we lose McGee, Goodson and Money-B (gone no matter what), we are in better shape.. if we have a new coach...
Lastly, I don't care how aggressively you argue with me about recruiting. Dennis wasn't as good as someone else I can assure will be.

PS: Next time I'll let you know how I really feel.

Mole

10-13-2007, 10:06 PM

There is no way you can be this mediocre and coach at the highest levels of college football.

PJAggiegrrl

10-13-2007, 10:15 PM

After today.. I'd say he will def be gone next year...

BigJohn

10-13-2007, 10:18 PM

He's gone after the season, so let's just make the best of it and see how many wins we can get and build something for our incoming coach.

The Massacre

10-13-2007, 10:23 PM

After today.. I'd say he will def be gone next year...

holla. another monkey. :gig:

PJAggiegrrl

10-13-2007, 10:29 PM

holla. another monkey. :gig:

Yeah.. I decided I would join in. :gig:

AustinAggie

10-13-2007, 10:35 PM

I know from a very good source that 2 coaches have been called already by A&M. If thats true it looks like after Fran signs the 08 recruiting class he gone no matter what.:popcorn:

Should we start watching for the flights into and out of Easterwood (http://flightaware.com/). Anyone know the A&M tail number.

Mole

10-13-2007, 10:39 PM

I don't think they would be interviewing coaches directly at this point since the season is still going on. They might talk through "back channels" with associates and such. I don't think we need to watch planes just yet.

whitelightnin_23

10-13-2007, 11:53 PM

Yeah.. I decided I would join in. :gig:

:rep: for yo crazy monkey ass!

MarylandAG

10-14-2007, 12:25 AM

He is gone, today was the death blow. Not said with any ill will, that is just what I think.

jagowar

10-14-2007, 12:30 AM

This says it all...

Big Wins (1):
Texas 2006

Respectable Wins (5):
Utah 2003
Clemson 2004
Texas Tech 2004
Oklahoma State 2004
Missouri 2006

Embarrassing Losses (15):

2003
at Texas Tech (28-59)
at Nebraska (12-48)
Oklahoma State (10-38)
at Oklahoma (0-77)
at Missouri (22-45)
Texas (15-46)

2004
at Utah (21-41)
at Baylor (34-35)
Tennessee (7-38)

2005
at Colorado (20-41)
Iowa State (14-42)
at Texas Tech (17-56)

2006
California (10-45)

2007
at Miami (17-34)
at Texas Tech (7-35)

whitelightnin_23

10-14-2007, 12:32 AM

I would still like to see a stat on the Nationally televised games that we have lost...(Nebraska, OU, Miami, Cal, TN)...vs those we have won...

funnymug

10-14-2007, 01:45 AM

Please, please, please, get rid of this totally incompetent coaching staff.

Burnetaggie99

10-14-2007, 02:45 AM

He wouldn't tell me the coaches but this came from a players dad. He got the info from emory ballard who is very active in the A&M highland lakes club in Burnet County.

90AG

10-14-2007, 12:05 PM

He wouldn't tell me the coaches but this came from a players dad. He got the info from emory ballard who is very active in the A&M highland lakes club in Burnet County.

Huh? what came from a players dad?

texasaggies_13

10-14-2007, 12:27 PM

Yeah, what 90ag said

SHAG69

10-14-2007, 06:09 PM

I agree. Although I think that is not good news at all. In fact, I think that is ****ed up news and were moving backwards.

May "you" should stop thinking.

Slotback

10-14-2007, 06:58 PM

We haven't quite gotten to "gone no matter what". However, it is damn close. We will likely reach that point by early November at the latest. Lose to Nebraska next Saturday and its a done deal then, IMO.

CoolaidWade

10-14-2007, 10:27 PM

May "you" should stop thinking.

Why don't you shut up and think me up a beer and a donut with little sprinkles on it.

Pumchavas28

10-15-2007, 08:05 AM

I know from a very good source that 2 coaches have been called already by A&M. If thats true it looks like after Fran signs the 08 recruiting class he gone no matter what.:popcorn:

So we gotta wait till February???? That would put us WAY behind the curve unless those coaches are willing to wait......

I'd rather have the new coach signed before our Bowl Game or at least right after it....

12th man fan

10-15-2007, 09:44 AM

Fran is gone.

He was brought in to build a program to rival t.u.'s, not one to struggle against OSU and tceh. He's not getting the job done.

Say bye-bye, Fran.

Pumchavas28

10-15-2007, 10:06 AM

Fran is gone.

He was brought in to build a program to rival t.u.'s, not one to struggle against OSU and tceh. He's not getting the job done.

Say bye-bye, Fran.

Um.... ok..... Is this an echo comment???