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polish
10-11-2007, 06:46 PM
"Guys were ready to run through a wall for him," said Ruud, a junior on that Nebraska team. "He was such a great motivator.
With Pelini leading the way, Nebraska annihilated Michigan State 17-3 in the Alamo Bowl, prompting fans to chant his name as he left the field. In just a few short months, Pelini's blue-collar approach had won the support of a rabid fan base that didn't even know his name a year earlier.
Tucked away in desk drawers and filing cabinets are a handful of notebooks filled with notes Pelini has taken at various coaching stops.
George Seifert, Pete Carroll, Ray Rhodes, Mike Shanahan, Hayden Fry, Mike Solari, John Cooper, Gary Kubiak, Les Miles and Bob Stoops. Pelini has been exposed to some of football's all-time greats.
"When you're around people like that – if you learn to watch and observe with an open mind – you can't do anything but get better," said Pelini, who played at Ohio State.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AurALSkYEBueTMxvwLhI_1g5nYcB?slug=jn-pelini101107&prov=yhoo&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AurALSkYEBueTMxvwLhI_1g5nYcB?slug=jn-pelini101107&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Oh please, if Fran is fired, hire Pelini. The more I read about him, the more I like him as a coach
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 09:22 AM
I think he will be a top 2 candidate with Tuberville.
Mezentius
10-12-2007, 10:02 AM
I'm not a fan of Tuberville. Yes he beats top 10 opponents and theo proceeds to lose to Mississippi State or misc. other mediocre school.
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 10:04 AM
I am a fan of Tuberville. After watching the way he gameplanned and called the game against Florida, he would be a good fit at A&M. Not too many coaches have been able to go undefeated in the SEC lately.
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 10:08 AM
I'm not a fan of Tuberville. Yes he beats top 10 opponents and theo proceeds to lose to Mississippi State or misc. other mediocre school.
I agree.. & that wont help A&M any....
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 10:08 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AurALSkYEBueTMxvwLhI_1g5nYcB?slug=jn-pelini101107&prov=yhoo&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AurALSkYEBueTMxvwLhI_1g5nYcB?slug=jn-pelini101107&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Oh please, if Fran is fired, hire Pelini. The more I read about him, the more I like him as a coach
Bo... along with the USF coach are on my short list.... but BB keeps ignoring my emails.... :sad:
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 10:11 AM
Bo... along with the USF coach are on my short list.... but BB keeps ignoring my emails.... :sad:
That's b/c the emails actually went to Mic Mac!
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 10:12 AM
:laugh:
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 10:15 AM
I'm skeptical of the USF coach's ability to recruit Texas.
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 10:19 AM
I'm skeptical of the USF coach's ability to recruit Texas.
Like I had said earlier... he could recruit 1/2 & 1/2... bring some of that Florida speed to A&M.....
He has the pipelines already & A&M has pipelines here in Texas also... he could benifit from both big time recruiting states....
12th man fan
10-12-2007, 10:21 AM
I'd take Pelini over Tubes any day.
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 10:23 AM
Like I had said earlier... he could recruit 1/2 & 1/2... bring some of that Florida speed to A&M.....
He has the pipelines already & A&M has pipelines here in Texas also... he could benifit from both big time recruiting states....
I just don't think that he could get top tier athletes from Florida to come to A&M. They are going to go to one of the big 3 Florida schools.
zrf2002
10-12-2007, 10:37 AM
I just don't think that he could get top tier athletes from Florida to come to A&M. They are going to go to one of the big 3 Florida schools.
you do have a point pflug, but look what he has done at usf in 12 years by getting the "B list" florida recruits. he has that program ranked in the top 5 right now. when was the last time we were ranked in the top 5 in the country? again, usf has only had a football program for 12 years. also, just think what he could do at a "big name program" with top notch facilities, fan base, support, and money. i am not saying he should be the next coach, but he should certainly be considered along with tubbs and pelini and whoever else we can speculate at.
Mac94
10-12-2007, 10:44 AM
Ya'll are probably right .... but, the coach at Rutgers has done a good job of getting kids out of Florida to go to New Jersey ... so maybe it could be done.
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 10:53 AM
I'm not saying that he should not be considered. I would just prefer Tuberville or Pelini more.
USF is good, but they are not a top 5 team. If they played in any other conference, they may not even be ranked.
Tubberville is the exact opposite of fran but just as bad...wins the big ones loses the small one(s)...
Schiano is a rutgers alum and a NE guy...he isnt going anywhere and i dont think he would be a good Texas fit...
USF---are you kidding? he wins because he gets the kids that cant go to Miami, Fl or FSU...dont think for a second otherwise...
Pelini is the real deal...returns the D and BB will help him find an OC that will run an Offense for this side of the Millenium...
zrf2002
10-12-2007, 10:56 AM
granted, usf is in the big east and they have not lit it up against anyone this season. BUT, they did go to Auburn and beat them. Auburn just beat florida. usf also beat wvu, who was ranked #5 at the time as well.
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 10:58 AM
Not sure why people are so negative on Tuberville. I would much rather have a guy that consistently beats top 5 and top 10 teams than a guy that just comes close every now and then.
granted, usf is in the big east and they have not lit it up against anyone this season. BUT, they did go to Auburn and beat them. Auburn just beat florida. usf also beat wvu, who was ranked #5 at the time as well.
Dude...do a little fraking reasearch...you could win with his players...none of whom will graduate and most of whom have a rap sheet that makes tu envious...
Not sure why people are so negative on Tuberville. I would much rather have a guy that consistently beats top 5 and top 10 teams than a guy that just comes close every now and then.
how about getting someone who is the beater and not the beatee?? AND who IS the top 5 team consistently?
12th man fan
10-12-2007, 11:03 AM
Quite frankly, "blue collar" and all that implies sounds really appealing right now after 5 years of Coach Clipboard on the sidelines.
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 11:08 AM
how about getting someone who is the beater and not the beatee?? AND who IS the top 5 team consistently?
Okay, I'll bite...what consistent top 5 coach will be willing to leave their current program to coach Texas A&M?
The list will look like this....
Mezentius
10-12-2007, 11:08 AM
Tuberville had Alabama essentially to himself for 5+ years with Bama being in turmoil and couldn't get over the hump.
He's a good coach, but not a great coach.
UCF coach? He's not the answer.
I would hire someone young and on fire:
Pelini has long been my first option
Flyer pick would be the someone (QB coach for example) off an angry staff....say Boise State/Colorado or maybe someone off of Schiano's staff.
Dustin00whoop
10-12-2007, 11:11 AM
Couldn't get over the hump.....he went undefeated in the SEC. What more could you ask for?
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 11:14 AM
We could just really piss of UTEP and take their football coach too.
Dustin00whoop
10-12-2007, 11:18 AM
We could just really piss of UTEP and take their football coach too.
Please no!
Mezentius
10-12-2007, 11:19 AM
Yes with two starting RB's and a QB that is also starting in the NFL...every other year he beats someone he has not business beating and then gets pasted by some patsy.
His teams just seem wildly inconsistent. I mean nobody was even talking about him until his team beat Florida....hell if anything we should be looking at his Defensive Coordinator.
I firmly believe that another middle aged veteran of multiple programs is not what this program needs. We need a new attitude, a fire that has been missing for more than a decade.
I'm tired of buttoned down and slick. I want fire and brimstone.
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 11:36 AM
Here's a question.... has anyone thought of these coaches also... Granted they are head coaches... but still...
Kirk Ferentz = Iowa
Tommy Bowden = Clemson
Karl Dorrell = UCLA
Chan Gailey = Ga. Tech
CoolaidWade
10-12-2007, 11:42 AM
Okay, I'll bite...what consistent top 5 coach will be willing to leave their current program to coach Texas A&M?
The list will look like this....
Thank You.
I don't understand why we are so stuck on getting a Established Head Coach. Just because someone is already a Head Coach doesn't mean they are the best fit. There are plenty of Assistant Coaches who have the potential to be much better then many Head Coaches out there and would kill to coach at A&M. They would have much better motivation to suceed then someone making a lateral or even a downgrade (Tuberville)
Dustin00whoop
10-12-2007, 11:51 AM
Here's a question.... has anyone thought of these coaches also... Granted they are head coaches... but still...
Kirk Ferentz = Iowa
Tommy Bowden = Clemson
Karl Dorrell = UCLA
Chan Gailey = Ga. Tech
Yeah, I thought, please don't hire any of those guys.
zrf2002
10-12-2007, 11:52 AM
Here's a question.... has anyone thought of these coaches also... Granted they are head coaches... but still...
Kirk Ferentz = Iowa
Tommy Bowden = Clemson
Karl Dorrell = UCLA
Chan Gailey = Ga. Tech
ferentz - no. they had a couple good seasons and he was mentioned as the next coach of many other schools and even in the nfl. but, they are not a good team now and have been routinely beat by iowa state.
tommy bowden - no. consistent under achiever. clemson has not finished higher than the middle of the pack in the acc for a long time.
karl dorrell - no. hasnt done anything at ucla.
chan gailey - no. hasnt done anything at ga tech and he was horrible with the cowboys and the dolphins.
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 12:02 PM
Please no!
I was kidding. I did find it funny that someone on texags said Byrne would never look at him b/c of his track record of off the field issues. I guess that dumbass didn't realize all the baggage that BCG brought with him "off the court."
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 12:03 PM
Mez, the reason that I like Tuberville and would support him as a hire is b/c he has ties to A&M. I think this is pretty important when it comes to our football coach. We need a coach that understands the fan base, the traditions, etc. Tuberville knows all this and definitely understands what the Wrecking Crew is supposed to be all about.
Dustin00whoop
10-12-2007, 12:04 PM
Mez, the reason that I like Tuberville and would support him as a hire is b/c he has ties to A&M. I think this is pretty important when it comes to our football coach. We need a coach that understands the fan base, the traditions, etc. Tuberville knows all this and definitely understands what the Wrecking Crew is supposed to be all about.
Yeah, that philosophy worked out real well for 'Bama with Shula.
whitelightnin_23
10-12-2007, 12:16 PM
call me crazy, but I'm looking for a guy with Florida or California ties as well...to bring some CA or FL recruits to an already strong Texas-recruiting school...
we could rule the world!
MarylandAG
10-12-2007, 12:17 PM
IF (looking more probable by the day) we are in the market for a coach, it is my thought that he will go hire a young, up an comer, it is his M.O. he has done this with basketball and baseball, he strayed when he hired the track coach b/c he went after a proven commodity, but I suspect he will go for a young up an comer with at least some Texas ties. The wild card is that I think the big money donors have say on the hire, to be blunt, I think the big cigars "meddle" (sp?) more when it is a football hire, instead of just getting the hell out of the way and letting BB do his job and find a coach on his own. Guess we will see.
whitelightnin_23
10-12-2007, 12:19 PM
didn't the "big cigars" meddle to get fran?
I think byrne has the leverage he needs to tell them to get the hell out of his way...;)
polish
10-12-2007, 12:40 PM
Couldn't get over the hump.....he went undefeated in the SEC. What more could you ask for?
Well in that season the hump was the voters who screwed him over ;)
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 12:52 PM
Yeah, that philosophy worked out real well for 'Bama with Shula.
Completely different. Shula was hired as Alabama's head coach with ZERO college coaching experience (assistant or head coach).
12th man fan
10-12-2007, 12:59 PM
didn't the "big cigars" meddle to get fran?
I think byrne has the leverage he needs to tell them to get the hell out of his way...;)
I agree with both sentences 2000%.
"Big cigars" = NCAA violations, and big trouble. "Big cigars" were buying Fran's VIP newsletters, no doubt. They have good intentions mostly, but bad ideas.
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 01:04 PM
Yeah, Byrne will do what is right and if its firing Fran and hiring someone else, he will do it his way. Do you really think the big money boosters wanted BCG? Hell no. Do you think they wanted Childress? Hell no. Look how those hires have worked out. One thing is for sure about Byrne, he doesn't give a damn about the good ol' boy network like Groff did.
12th man fan
10-12-2007, 01:06 PM
One thing is for sure about Byrne, he doesn't give a damn about the good ol' boy network like Groff did.
Music to my ears.
Mezentius
10-12-2007, 02:04 PM
I firmly believe this next hire is the single most important decision in the last 40 or so years of Texas A&M football.
We get this right and we are hitting on all cylinders at a time when tu might be trending down which will allow us even more momentum.
Screw it up and we were a team that was good for a few years 20 years ago.
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 02:21 PM
Mez, the reason that I like Tuberville and would support him as a hire is b/c he has ties to A&M. I think this is pretty important when it comes to our football coach. We need a coach that understands the fan base, the traditions, etc. Tuberville knows all this and definitely understands what the Wrecking Crew is supposed to be all about.
Why is that always so important???
Urban Meyer didn't know anything about Bowling Green, Utah or Florida & just won.... which led to happy fans....
Pete Carroll didn't know much about USC, but winning made everyone forget that...
What did Tommy know about Auburn before coaching there?
Knowing about A&M is a plus... but I don't think it should be a requirement for the coach.... I just want a coach that will help us win.... A coach can be taught & shown the traditions & pick them up as he goes along... JMO...
I want a coach that will win & knows football...
Thisjeffguy07
10-12-2007, 02:23 PM
I was at that Alamo bowl when pelini was the temp head coach... the team was pretty fired up and blew away that mich st team :popcorn:
Okay, I'll bite...what consistent top 5 coach will be willing to leave their current program to coach Texas A&M?
The list will look like this....
that's cute Pflueg...
what we need is an up and comer that has tested well against big programs...I'm a lot better at who we dont need(as i've posted many times) than who that person is(as i dont spend all day and night looking for top level D1 coaches)...
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 03:06 PM
Would anyone be happy if Jeff Tedford from Cal made his way to A&M?
I have heard that he could very well be the front runner.... :popcorn:
12th man fan
10-12-2007, 03:09 PM
Would anyone be happy if Jeff Tedford from Cal made his way to A&M?
I have heard that he could very well be the front runner.... :popcorn:
You have to like the job he's doing, that's for sure. And the guy will stand on your neck if he hsa you down. We DEFINITELY need some of that.
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 03:15 PM
You have to wonder if he's willing to trade Pete Carroll for Mack Brown & Bob Stoops.....
But I do like that he plays his best players as often as possible (Jackson returning punts)
12th man fan
10-12-2007, 03:22 PM
You have to wonder if he's willing to trade Pete Carroll for Mack Brown & Bob Stoops.....
But I do like that he plays his best players as often as possible (Jackson returning punts)
I don't know, but I'm sure willing to trade John Makovic for Jeff Tedford any day.
Burnetaggie99
10-12-2007, 03:55 PM
I want jeff Tedford and then we go out and get a great DC. Also Tedford would bring some of his coaches with him. With the players we have and are recruiting fit Tedford's style of play which means we wouldn't have to start all over again. Also Tedford calls all the play himself.
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 03:58 PM
I want jeff Tedford and then we go out and get a great DC. Also Tedford would bring some of his coaches with him. With the players we have and are recruiting fit Tedford's style of play which means we wouldn't have to start all over again. Also Tedford calls all the play himself.
I wonder if he would sit down McGee with a chess board like he does his other QB's? ;) McGee would probably say "OK, IF YOU COME HUNTING WITH ME"...
I don't know, but I'm sure willing to trade John Makovic for Jeff Tedford any day.
me too...although tedford wouldnt be my first choice...
Pflugerville Ag
10-12-2007, 04:10 PM
With the players we have and are recruiting fit Tedford's style of play which means we wouldn't have to start all over again.
One good thing about the thought of getting a new coach for next year is that we lose so much anyway, next year will be a rebuilding year no matter what. So, even if we get a coach that wants to put a new style of play in, its not going to hurt us much more than we will be hurting anyway.
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 04:24 PM
One good thing about the thought of getting a new coach for next year is that we lose so much anyway, next year will be a rebuilding year no matter what. So, even if we get a coach that wants to put a new style of play in, its not going to hurt us much more than we will be hurting anyway.
A&M has talent though.. the cubord isn't empty or close to empty this time around...
Whoever comes in.... won't have to bring in a ton of JUCO's & start a whole bunch of Freshman next year...
This team on Offense & Defense has players who could start for anyone in the country or at a minimum be in a 2 deep rotation with anyone in the country....
The new Coach will be inheriting a team that is filled with guys good enough to be ranked in the Top 25 Recruiting Classes almost every year, the last 5 years in Scouts.com & Rivals.com.... That wasn't the case before... Also there are no character issues with our players... so the Coach won't have anything like tu is dealing with....
The new Coach will also have Top of the line facilities as well with more on the way....
I think considering the obvious talent & the facilities in place, the new Coach could have pressure on him from the get go....
Especially if Fran finds a way to have a great year & beats tu again & also beats NU, KU, & 1 or 2 of OU, MU, & ttu....
That would equate to a team with the talent to win, so the new coach would have to be able to at least do as good or close to it....
Going 4-8 in his 1st year wont cut it this time around....
JMO.... :popcorn:
Dustin00whoop
10-12-2007, 04:32 PM
Pum, there is talent for next year, no doubt. However, a lot of that talent is inexperienced & unproven. Thats what P-ville is talking about. Here is the breakdown of what starters will have to be replaced:
80% of your O-line.
50% (maybe 100%) of your TEs
FB
Possibly one TB
2 WRs (one of which is one of the best KRs in the nation)
75% of your DL, including both DTs
100% of your LBs
50% of your CBs
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 04:46 PM
Dustin....
Of those positions... the only 2 I am worried about is TE & O'Line....
The rest wont be as huge of a loss....
If A&M loses 1 TB, A&M has a stable of guys waiting for their shot with legit talent.
WR, We will miss Franks on Special Teams, but it's not like we are losing Calvin Johnson, Desean Jackson, or Tedd Ginn Jr.... I love our players.. but c'mon....
DL.. Losing Harrington & Bryant will be big, but our D'Line guys aren't getting sacks as it is... We hear/read a ton about all these guys in the depth chart with real speed & they don't get on the field.... also, our other DT's aren't slouches... Red is a beast & with proper motivation, so could the other guys... There is depth at DT.. just not a lot of experience....
LB's... Losing the maturity of Tupe & Dodge will hurt... but A&M has assembled a good stable of LB's with a couple more committed to playing at A&M... We have seen the speed & abilities of Matt & Lewis... I am anxious to see them start.... with Chavis & Stephens backing them up & the other recruits behind them.... And if we go 4-3... Then bringing in 1 JUCO to help with Depth or experience wont hurt....
CB's... The only one leaving that could hurt is Marquis... Gorrer, Arkeith & JP will all be back.... Hopefully by Arkeith & Danny's senior years next year, I would hope that all the playing time they have recieved up till this point would pay off & they would play up to their expectations....
I'm not saying the coach has to go undefeated...
But with the guys on our Roster.... a losing season wont cut it.... Especially when Scouts.com currently has our current recruiting class ranked as the 5th best in the country... with players at every position coming in..... :gig:
http://tamu.scout.com/a.z?s=187&p=9&c=14&yr=2008
Dustin00whoop
10-12-2007, 05:00 PM
No one ever said it would be a losing season. But there aren't too many teams that return 7 total starters who contend for a conference championship.
Downplay it all you want, but there is no substitute for veteran leadership & experience. Go ahead & let me know who the leader of that defense will be next year.
Pumchavas28
10-12-2007, 05:58 PM
Why can't Pugh, Bennett, Featherson, Dixon or Gregg step up as a leader?
or even some one younger???
Red stepped up as a young Freshman or Soph as a leader.... Harrington stepped into that role last year...
Who knows... Chavis could become a leader..... Hell McGee took over as leader of the Offense as a Red-Freshman in the time span of a game & a half.....
Personally... I could see Michael Bennett stepping up as a leader.... He already goes out of his way to help other players on defense as it is & is some what a leader already... just not one spoken about.... I've read several interviews on Scouts.com & Rivals where Michael is talked about by younger players as helping them with their progression....:gig:
polish
10-12-2007, 06:53 PM
Downplay it all you want, but there is no substitute for veteran leadership & experience. Go ahead & let me know who the leader of that defense will be next year.
Billy Chavis
So that'll be $1200, payment due by Halloween :cool:
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