Aggie Players' confidence in Fran after Miami

[November Echo]

Since we all agree to some extent that Fran and coaching staff-

1. Did a poor job preparing the team before the game

2. Did not make the best offensive calls during the game

3. Had the Defense in questionable coverage during the game

4. Hurt A&M's recruiting with Thursday's performance


Can some of you that have "insider knowledge" comment on how the players are feeling toward Fran's ability to coach? i.e. If troops in combat have doubts about the commander's ability to lead......

And, if the players have doubts as to his abilities to coach, what are their options? (other than the obvious thing of leaving the team) What actions can they take to improve the situation?

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[Burnetaggie99]

The players themselves stunk up the place just as bad too. If I was coach they would be running this week for their stupid mistakes.

[November Echo]

The players themselves stunk up the place just as bad too. If I was coach they would be running this week for their stupid mistakes.


No doubt about the sub-par performance from the players.
But in the case of J. Lane and other players that felt the power running game should have been utilized, how would those guys feel about the Fran's coaching at this time? I mean, shouldn't the coach be running too?

[Slotback]

Yes, the coaches should be running too.

[Gravy]

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[The Massacre]

this thread sucks. hth.

[Superaggie79]

I think it's a legitimate question.

[The Massacre]

imagine that.

the question might be somewhat legitimate,but wording the rest of the sentences to imply that the players DO have doubts in their coach is crap.

i would expect nothing less from necho though.

[Superaggie79]

well that part is true as well

[Superaggie79]

settle down broke leggs.. I was agreeing with you that it was written in a way to assume the players thoughts.

[Loftin]

The players should give 100% to whatever the coach decides, whether they have faith in him or not. This is not JV football in HS, this is the Big XII(cue Dan Hawkins jokes).

[Thisjeffguy07]

coach fran should run... he looks like the southpark kids in the world of warcraft episode :laugh:

[phatbc]

go play intramurals brother :laugh:

[aggie1997]

I agree the players should give 110% every play regardless of what the coach is doing. They can agree/disagree all they want with the directions, but they should do their best to execute and not pout. I disagree with a lot of our game plan and honestly am very confused with what our game plan even is. I understand this can be discouraging to our players, but they can't quit. You have to follow your general into war and put 100% of your trust in him, even when you don't understand the decisions he is making.

[TexAgFromCal]

How about when the general throws the team under the bus with comments like, "We just got beat by the better team today." That obviously shows that the coach is dumping the blame on the players to me.

[Curly06]

is anyone confident in Fran? our players dont ever not play their best because of a coaching disagreement

[TexAgFromCal]

Curly, can you rephrase your last post I really don't understand what you are saying.

[Curly06]

he asked about feelings towards frans coaching ability. my point is dont think anyone is confident in that right now.
later post said players should give 110% no matter what- and i was saying no matter how they feel towards coaching decisions it doesnt effect their efforts. yes they have errors, they are human. but they are still going out every game trying to win.

[TexAgFromCal]

Thanks curly I just didn't quite understand what you had typed earlier.

[Pumchavas28]

I seriously doubt these players doubt Fran... after all they did sign with him when A&M was going 4-8, 5-6, & 7-5....

Why after 1 loss would they doubt him or the staff now?

As for us Fans.... yeah doubts can develop & have developed....

But for the players... I doubt it..... if it took something as small as that to do it, they would never have signed with A&M & Fran to begin with.....

I will say this however.... I would expect the team from top to bottom to be frustrated... But each guy to be frustrated with themselves...

The Coaches mad at themselves for calling a p!$$ poor game...

The Players for giving a half @$$ effort.....

[Curly06]

Why after 1 loss would they doubt him or the staff now?
....

The Players for giving a half @$$ effort

pretty sure we've had more than one loss....
and i'd like to see you make that statement face to face:stupid:
things could have gone better but that doesnt mean they werent trying

[Pumchavas28]

LOL......

Really Curly.... your gonna pull that card with all the crap you've typed about how Fran & McGee were in love..... :laugh: :stupid:

What's up Kettle......:laugh:

I doubt you'd ever go up to McGee & tell him to his face 1/2 the stuff you've said on here......:popcorn:

[Curly06]

i dont like him on the field never have. but i woudlnt say the team didnt give their best. never would say something like that.
yep mcgee & fran are "in love" as you put it--- thats why i put my fav quote from the game on a thread somewhere
"well frans gone, hopefully he'll take McGee with him"

dont think ive ever said they dont give 100%-- think 100% from some just doent cut it. and i have said that game sucked etc to their faces-

[MarylandAG]

:wow: Now children settle down:laugh: Man things get touchy after losses.

[Pumchavas28]

Tomato, Tamato..... Either way it's a diss.... I just found it hilarious that you would would try to pull the "say it to their face" card..... :laugh:

Cause I doubt you'd say that to McGee.... anyways....:popcorn:

[Curly06]

well i kinda have. but whos better is more an opinion. saying someone didnt try his best is kinda a slap in the face after a loss. i may not think hes great and dont think he can get the job done, but hes trying- he just failed this week. wouldnt ever say a team didnt give 100:sad:

[Vlyrock]

Curly, if McGee can't get the job done, who do you think can? You think JJ is really ready to step in and gives us a better chance to win day in and day out in the Big XII?

[Curly06]

he didnt get it done at miami- he wouldnt even look downfield- im not turnin this thread into a mcgee debate- i answered the initial question... who doesnt have doubts bout fran:undecided:

[Vlyrock]

I was just going off your comment that you don't think he's great and can't get the job done. I'll leave it alone, but was curious what your thinking was behind it...

[12th man fan]

Steve's been reigned in by Coach Clipboard, just like Lane.

[Pumchavas28]

Steve's been reigned in by Coach Clipboard, just like Lane.


Not according to those who know him (burnete)..... It's more of an issue between the ears about his arm....

[Curly06]

yea hes got confidence issues- thats been published previous- not just a burnete thing. goes hand in hand with the statement that he played scared @ miami

[Dustin00whoop]

Not according to those who know him (burnete)..... It's more of an issue between the ears about his arm....

The coach in his head about throwing a pick was there long before the arm injury....but believe what you want.

[Pumchavas28]

The coach in his head about throwing a pick was there long before the arm injury....but believe what you want.


That can't be completely it.... It didn't stop Reggie from breaking A&M records or throwing down field.... :popcorn:

[The Massacre]

maybe Reggie wasn't as close to fran as Steve is. Steve might feel more pressure not to let fran down than reggie did because they have a closer relationship.

[Curly06]

That can't be completely it.... It didn't stop Reggie from breaking A&M records or throwing down field.... :popcorn:
um how can you compare mcgees head issue with reggies ability to throw downfield? seems like to separate things. if reggie had the lil coach in the head problem it sure as hell didnt hinder his ability like it does stephen

[Pumchavas28]

I doubt that's the case... If so then McGee needs to stop worrying about making everyone happy & play....

He needs to play like he's back home tackling himself in the front yard & ignore everyone else....

All this means is he is thinking far to much & not having fun.....

Which by the way, I haven't seen him play like he's having fun since tu last year.... Cal & all the games this year, he seems like he's under a ton of pressure... possibly self imposed...

[Pumchavas28]

um how can you compare mcgees head issue with reggies ability to throw downfield? seems like to separate things. if reggie had the lil coach in the head problem it sure as hell didnt hinder his ability like it does stephen


Isn't that what I just said..... :bored: :popcorn:

[whitelightnin_23]

Isn't that what I just said..... :bored: :popcorn:

this is hilarious!
:popcorn:

like playing chess with my brother's kids! ;)

[Dustin00whoop]

Like I said, Pum, believe whatever the hell you want.

[Curly06]

your post wasnt there when i was responding- who the heck cares you just said it. so i agree reggie was better.

[Mezentius]

The effort is there...the confidence in what they are doing is not there. McGee is perfectly competent at QB skillwise but he sure does look tentative. I don't think it would be a bad thing if had been sat in both the Fresno State game and the Miami game for a series or two.

Good experience for JJ and a chance to calm him down.

I think he's like the rest of the team...stuck playing a role and being a cog in a jacked up machine.

[Pumchavas28]

Like I said, Pum, believe whatever the hell you want.


Ok.... :gig:


But the stats Reggie put up even when all his WR's were hurt says alot.... :popcorn:

[The Massacre]

your post wasnt there when i was responding- who the heck cares you just said it. so i agree reggie was better.


Curly's votes:
JJ > McGee
Reggie > McGee



obv

[Pumchavas28]

Curly's votes:
JJ > McGee
Reggie > McGee



obv


I guess McGee was her 10% on the other thread....

[Dustin00whoop]

Ok.... :gig:


But the stats Reggie put up even when all his WR's were hurt says alot.... :popcorn:

He also didn't have Fran in his head from Day 1, now did he? And, just so you know, everyone handles adversity & pressure differently....you're in the military. You should know that.

[Gravy]

:popcorn:

[Pumchavas28]

True... but regardless of how we all handle adversity... the end product is still expected....

Just because a troop doesn't like the sound of guns or bombs wont keep him from deploying & doing his job.....

You still gotta produce... otherwise why even do it?

This is one of those life building situations.... Not sure what he plans on doing later after A&M.... NFL or regular job... but not everyone he works with will make life easy on him.....

[November Echo]

True... but regardless of how we all handle adversity... the end product is still expected....

Just because a troop doesn't like the sound of guns or bombs wont keep him from deploying & doing his job.....

You still gotta produce... otherwise why even do it?

This is one of those life building situations.... Not sure what he plans on doing later after A&M.... NFL or regular job... but not everyone he works with will make life easy on him.....


Everything Pum wrote could be applied to Fran.
:popcorn:

[November Echo]

imagine that.

the question might be somewhat legitimate,but wording the rest of the sentences to imply that the players DO have doubts in their coach is crap.

i would expect nothing less from necho though.


Seriously. What makes you so sure that our players don't doubt Fran?

If Lane, for one, made the statement "Nobody can stop our offense..." to the media and then gets completely left out of the Offense for the first half. You think he doesn't doubt Fran or disagree with Fran's decisions? Would he be the only one? Is it really crap to think that there might be some players that doesn't agree with Fran's decisions?

[Dustin00whoop]

Ne....IM when you get a chance.

[Conan]

The players themselves stunk up the place just as bad too. If I was coach they would be running this week for their stupid mistakes.

If I was the coach I'd run the players, but at least admit the team's performance was my responsibility. Also players were bad, but still could have won easily.

[Dustin00whoop]

The players themselves stunk up the place just as bad too. If I was coach they would be running this week for their stupid mistakes.

If you work their butts off on the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th day before the game your about to play, you may just end up wearing them out & they may come out flat come Gameday. You have to find a happy medium, Fran....uh...wait, I mean Coach Weis. :huh: