Let the meltdown begin.....

[Pumchavas28]

Ags are 2-0.... might be ugly but were 2-0.....

[PinetarAg]

the bottom line we are 2-0, thats all that matters to me right now after two games.

a ton of the top 25 have problems this year with "lesser" opponents

[Slotback]

The masses are happy with the win. But that's about it. Byrne's email in box is probably full. The server will probably explode in a few minutes.

[PinetarAg]

we played a good first half and then the offense sucked it up in the 3rd.....then they got it together and the D screwed it up. At least we still faught through it, and FS faught through it too.

It should have never been that close, but the two teams left it all out on the field

[JonesyMan]

Didn't get to see the game, but we didn't pass at all apparently. This has got to change. Miami is two weeks away, and after the OU game today, they will be pissed to have another Big 12 opponent to play. I love my Ags, but dammit Fran needs to toughen up. He says he wants the D to play tougher, he wants McGee to throw more, I say no more talking and more producing.
Ugly 2-0, but at least we are winning.
Fresno came to play and had chip on their shoulder, remember how close they played USC. They are a tough team.

[GuatemalanAg]

No meltdown necessary Pum...We are 2-0 without a passing game...Imagine our record when we do develop a balanced attack :gig:

[Pumchavas28]

I hope I am right but in the 4th & OT I think Fran toughened up on O giving Lane the ball almost the whole time.... I just hope he sticks with it....

[Pumchavas28]

if the sips lose i'll be happier.... not 100% but it will help a bit.....

[JonesyMan]

me too Pum.

[macduff93]

I'm really disappointed in McGee's passing accuracy and decision-making. Am I alone in this? I don't enjoy thinking this way. :(

[Pumchavas28]

I'm really disappointed in McGee's passing accuracy and decision-making. Am I alone in this? I don't enjoy thinking this way. :(


Nope not alone......and I hate thinking that also.......

[PinetarAg]

TCU scores on pick 6

[Pumchavas28]

TCU scores on pick 6


Whoop!!!!!!!!!

[Pumchavas28]

I was hoping Alton would jump the slant route just like that on 4 different plays against Fresno.... :sad:

[PinetarAg]

sorry what I was typing (before the pick 6) was Mcgee just doesn't have any confidence...i don't know if that is becuase this is his first year as a starter to have a healthy arm so while he is a second year starter his arm is only a first year starter...or maybe he just isn't as good as we thought he could be throwing the ball

[JonesyMan]

I think the pressure might be getting to him. Everyone expecting to him show off that arm, but not confident enough to do so.

[Pumchavas28]

I don't want to question McGee either, but after 2 games I can't help but start to wonder...

I am also concernd with the O'Line's pass protection ability.... They can run block with the best of em, but pass protection is something else....

[JonesyMan]

They are not used to having to pass protect that much.

[macduff93]

sorry what I was typing (before the pick 6) was Mcgee just doesn't have any confidence...i don't know if that is becuase this is his first year as a starter to have a healthy arm so while he is a second year starter his arm is only a first year starter...or maybe he just isn't as good as we thought he could be throwing the ball


Yeah, I was avoiding stating that and I hope that's not the case, but then would he be as tough if he were a better passing QB?

Ideally, J.J. could be used in passing situations and Stephen in the option. Maybe that's not possible, though.

[Pumchavas28]

JJ is known more for his running from what I have heard in practice....

If McGee is tired I say use JJ more as an Option QB....

Either way... JJ needs some Clock... what happened to the Florida Formula we heard about...

Meyer used both QB"s regardless off opponent or situation...

[Gravy]

The meltdown time has come and gone years ago. Now there is only those who are satisfied with the mediocrity, and those who will wait for something better. ;)

[JonesyMan]

I still believe that this our year to win the Big 12.

[GuatemalanAg]

We have decent WRs and outstanding TEs...add to the equation good hands of our RBs!!! We should be fine with our passing game as long as our guys and coaches Believe and give it a shot!!!

[Pumchavas28]

I still believe that this our year to win the Big 12.


OU is gonna be our toughest game...

[Pumchavas28]

We have decent WRs and outstanding TEs...add to the equation good hands of our RBs!!! We should be fine with our passing game as long as our guys and coaches Believe and give it a shot!!!


WR's still have a ??????? next to them.....

[macduff93]

JJ is known more for his running from what I have heard in practice....

If McGee is tired I say use JJ more as an Option QB....

Either way... JJ needs some Clock... what happened to the Florida Formula we heard about...

Meyer used both QB"s regardless off opponent or situation...


Yes, this is what I'm thinking as well.

[JonesyMan]

OU will be the toughest, but looking at the last two years, this should be our game for the taking in their backyard. We still have plenty of time to get that passing game going, and when do, the world better watch out.:gig: :gig:

[Pumchavas28]

Hopefully by then some or our WR's if not at least 1 has stepped up..

I was mad that Holland or McCoy did not get any PT today...

[GuatemalanAg]

Franks and Taylor are decent...Brown is good...Morrow is hurt...Shankle should be good once he sheds the shakes...The McCoy brothers and the rest are a ?

[JonesyMan]

You know something, even though it was an ugly win, I don't the rest of the nation should be shocked by the outcome. For some reason, most of the little dogs have been playing like they have rabies against the big dogs. just look around the country. Ags should not hang their head for this lose, we had a very hungry FS team in our house, and won.

[Pumchavas28]

You know something, even though it was an ugly win, I don't the rest of the nation should be shocked by the outcome. For some reason, most of the little dogs have been playing like they have rabies against the big dogs. just look around the country. Ags should not hang their head for this lose, we had a very hungry FS team in our house, and won.


We shouldn't but I would guess most will....

[Gravy]

See? The acceptance of mediocrity is already here. Motioned, and seconded by the looks of it. :gig:

[GuatemalanAg]

Boise State lost so we should remain ranked...

[Slotback]

We'll move up. But we need to throw to the WRs

[GuatemalanAg]

We'll move up. But we need to throw to the WRs
Agreed...We also need to get LOD's second member more involved...

[Pumchavas28]

I want this Thread Locked... I started it & now I want it locked.... I just heard McGee's post game interview & he is right...

If your melting down or can'ing anyone your not an Ag.. Don't care if you went to school there or not..

After that game McGee said times like this are why he loves being an Aggie while the rest of us start complaining about the team...

He said it's Bull Crap & it is!!!!!

PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD I STARTED!!!!! REAL AGS DON'T MELTDOWN!!!!!!!!!!

[Slotback]

Relax Pum. Relax.

[Pumchavas28]

Just listen to his interview & you gotta feel for him... and towards the end he's right... it wasn't about X's & O's... it was about guts....

I honestly feel for the kid & all the crap I was talking during the game about him & the team... I take it back....

[Gravy]

LOL....nobody is melting down Pum. The smart ones are past that point. The others are damn happy that our team and coach used every last bit of strength and guts and all the rest of it on the field to beat the tar out of.......Fresno. So you can lay your little head down to rest peacefully now. All is well...all is well.

[jagowar]

yep there is nothing to be exited about after that imo.... only positive i can think of is fran finally learned to feed the train until he couldnt run anymore (and we tried to get martellus the ball more).

but everything else was a pretty big disappointment considering we were supposed to have that "biggest improvement from week 1 to week 2".

[PinetarAg]

Hopefully by then some or our WR's if not at least 1 has stepped up..

I was mad that Holland or McCoy did not get any PT today...


I saw Holland out there for atleast 3 plays that I can remember....he looks so small

[AustinAggie]

I just didn't understand why we had no deep pass plays. Obviously there is someone who knows more than me. It just seems like we trive on short stuff. However am I mistaken on the fact that we did seem to convert a number of 3rd downs.

[GregH]

Our pass D and FG game has some SERIOUS needs and concerns

[November Echo]

It's only two non-conference games. The rankings mean diddley squat (see Michigan).

It took Fresno State 2 1/2 quarters to figure out how to attack the Aggie secondary. Other teams with better passing offenses will follow.....

Lots of good teams out there. Our team still has a lot of work to do.

[Vlyrock]

LOL....nobody is melting down Pum. The smart ones are past that point. The others are damn happy that our team and coach used every last bit of strength and guts and all the rest of it on the field to beat the tar out of.......Fresno. So you can lay your little head down to rest peacefully now. All is well...all is well.

Fresno State history against "big name" opponents:
2004
@ Washington W 35-16
@ #14 Kansas State W 45-21
vs #23 Virginia W 37-34

2005
@ Oregon L 34-37
@ #1 USC L 50-42

2006
#20 Oregon L 24-31
@ Washington L 21-20

2007
@ #23 Texas A&M L 45-47

Fresno has a history of playing up to it's opponents and history shows that we're not in bad company. USC barely beat them in '05 and went on to the National Championship game. They travel to Oregon next week (who just pounded Michigan) so we'll learn more about the team we beat today then.

There's a difference between accepting mediocrity and supporting the team. Nobody here has accepted mediocrity, but if you can't see the type of team that Fran has fielded, in terms of the quality of the kids and the heart and desire in them, then Austin is looking for some more bandwagon fans.

We barely beat Army last year (along with a bunch of mediocre teams) en route to a 9-3 season and a Holiday Bowl bid last season. I can't believe some are jumping off the bandwagon when we're 2-0.

[Gravy]

Fresno State history against "big name" opponents:
2004
@ Washington W 35-16
@ #14 Kansas State W 45-21
vs #23 Virginia W 37-34

2005
@ Oregon L 34-37
@ #1 USC L 50-42

2006
#20 Oregon L 24-31
@ Washington L 21-20

2007
@ #23 Texas A&M L 45-47

Fresno has a history of playing up to it's opponents and history shows that we're not in bad company. USC barely beat them in '05 and went on to the National Championship game. They travel to Oregon next week (who just pounded Michigan) so we'll learn more about the team we beat today then.

There's a difference between accepting mediocrity and supporting the team. Nobody here has accepted mediocrity, but if you can't see the type of team that Fran has fielded, in terms of the quality of the kids and the heart and desire in them, then Austin is looking for some more bandwagon fans.

We barely beat Army last year (along with a bunch of mediocre teams) en route to a 9-3 season and a Holiday Bowl bid last season. I can't believe some are jumping off the bandwagon when we're 2-0.


All that looks pretty. The real facts are these:

1. Fresno exposed to every team in the nation that they only have to defend about 25 - 30 yds against us at most. (with any luck, that is exactly what we want them to think?)
2. What Fresno did to us in the second half, other teams that are used to playing us, will be trying and doing the entire game.

It really does not matter how Fresno has faired with teams in the past. people who were much more knowledgable than us ranked us, and did not rank them. I see the type of kids, quality of players, etc, etc. that Fran has fielded, and I like what I see. Those who ranked us also liked what they saw. That is how I know that coaching must be to blame when we are not controlling games like we should. First half all seemed well. Second half, coaching philosophies shone through. Let's keep that in mind, regardless of how good or bad, this unranked team had zero points at halftime, and came back to tie the game at 22 halfway through the 4th quarter.

The team played their guts out, and it took every bit of it to get this win. Since it takes everything our players have to get this win (as McGee said), then the only thing that can make the difference in the future games against better teams will be coaching......uh oh. I think we all better squeeze that we really can pass, but that is what we are holding back for whatever reason.

[Vlyrock]

Gravy, Surely you don't go by rankings to judge how good a team is (note Texas is #7 right now)....but if you do watch the polls, watch to see what they thought about our win -- more than likely we'll move up in the polls (validating us in your opinion).

I don't even want to touch your coaching philosophies argument...it's not-based in fact and is just an attempt to blame the coaches for not meeting your perception that A&M football should win every game by 40 points.

Why could you not argue that coaching philosophies shined through in the first half? Could an uncoached team really play that well together... Nice try though. :laugh:

[Gravy]

I don't necessarily believe in all the rankings, but it does not change what happened. Are you suggesting that we should have been ranked lower or Fresno higher? I was actually going to compliment the first half, but then I realized it would really be complimenting the defense, and the last 3 minutes of the 1st half. Nobody ever said that the team was uncoached, only that coaching is what will have to make the difference in the future if it truly took everything the players had to win this game (as McGee stated). I am not even going to pretend that anyone on here will even come close to understanding my point. Most of the people on here are still young and have lots of things to learn.

[Dustin00whoop]

If we don't win 9 games this year, it is the coaches, & only the coaches fault, & we should cut our losses before we get blown out in another bowl game. Pat Hill coached Fran under the table for the entire 2nd half.

The talent is there. The experience is there. If we don't win 9 games this year, there is no one else left to blame.

[Superaggie79]

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[macduff93]

If we don't win 9 games this year, it is the coaches, & only the coaches fault, & we should cut our losses before we get blown out in another bowl game. Pat Hill coached Fran under the table for the entire 2nd half.

The talent is there. The experience is there. If we don't win 9 games this year, there is no one else left to blame.


:undecided: Yeah, I've already been informed that we will not be spending precious holiday time traveling to another bowl game this year. :(

[Pflugerville Ag]

:undecided: Yeah, I've already been informed that we will not be spending precious holiday time traveling to another bowl game this year. :(

Yeah, no sh*t. As much fun as I had with my family in San Diego, I spent about $250 for every point that we scored! :(