Can we pass?

[hmiles619]

The biggest question of the offseason was whether or not McGee could throw downfield. I haven't seen it yet in two games.

[Pumchavas28]

I doubt it from the looks of things...

If the WR's are open, we can't block, & if we can block then we can't run the right route....

[hmiles619]

if that is the case then we're not gonna win many games. Once teams figure out that all they need to do is stop the run then we're finished. Looks like Fresno figured it out.

[macduff93]

I'm very disappointed in the passing game. :sad:

[BigJohn]

Their LB and CBs are cheating up. If we would at least ATTEMPT a downfield pass, they wouldn't do that as much.

[Pumchavas28]

Wow... we completed a pass to a WR.....:bored:

[macduff93]

J.J. ?

I'd put him in.

[Pumchavas28]

Not sure I'd trust him either right now with his 50/50 game play he had last week..

[Superaggie79]

We don't run routes longer than 10 yards. It's been consistent for 3 years now. And if it's 3rd and 6 we run a 5 yard route :bored:

[Pumchavas28]

We've ran a couple but the O'Line can't pass block longer than 2.5 seconds...:sad:

[Superaggie79]

We've ran a couple but the O'Line can't pass block longer than 2.5 seconds...:sad:
More than enough time to throw a fade. I can't even remember the last time we threw that route.

[Pumchavas28]

We've had some WR's run it but McGee was knocked down each time... 1 was a fumble...

[Superaggie79]

We've had some WR's run it but McGee was knocked down each time... 1 was a fumble...
He held on to the ball to long then. A fade is 1,2,3 throw one the third or fifth step in rythm and let the wr run under it.

[November Echo]

Someone pointed out that the last time we threw the ball over 35 yards in the air successfully was against Nebraska last season......and it was J. Lane that made the pass!

Somebody tell me that's not true!

[jagowar]

i wish whoever came up with that lame 2-3 yd out would get fired (esp when you have martellus run is).... a complete waste of a pass imo.

[The Massacre]

J.J. ?

I'd put him in.

that is one of the dumbest suggestions i have seen in a while. and that's saying a lot. u think JJ is a better passer than McGee? geez.

[Vlyrock]

McGee doesn't seem to have the presence in the pocket to make good decisions. i watched him today and he seemed hesitant to go downfield...he just wants to throw those short routes.

The longest pass attempt was the option pass where he got hit and missed a receiver.

And can somebody please get EJ Shankle some stick 'um? That's like 3 passes in 2 games he has just dropped with nobody on him.

[GSZ94]

McGee doesn't seem to have the presence in the pocket to make good decisions. i watched him today and he seemed hesitant to go downfield...he just wants to throw those short routes.

The longest pass attempt was the option pass where he got hit and missed a receiver.

And can somebody please get EJ Shankle some stick 'um? That's like 3 passes in 2 games he has just dropped with nobody on him.

Could this be due to so much pressure to develop a deep-threat passing game? Expanded thoughts on the tread I started......:)

[macduff93]

that is one of the dumbest suggestions i have seen in a while. and that's saying a lot. u think JJ is a better passer than McGee? geez.


Your opinion is of absolutely no value to me. :stupid:

[The Massacre]

Your opinion is of absolutely no value to me. :stupid:

that doesn't surprise me at all. i wouldn't see how logic or common sense would be useful to someone making a comment as ridiculous as the one u made earlier.

[Dustin00whoop]

They did get some pressure on him, but lots of times Steve had all day to throw & guys running free in the secondary in man on man coverage & he just wouldn't throw the freaking ball. I think the coaches have completely mind-f**ked him.

[Superaggie79]

why is there civil discussion on this thread and negative thoughts about mcgee but when I try to complement Goodson I get killed? :spy: racists

[Mezentius]

They did get some pressure on him, but lots of times Steve had all day to throw & guys running free in the secondary in man on man coverage & he just wouldn't throw the freaking ball. I think the coaches have completely mind-f**ked him.

He looks afraid to throw it outside...

[macduff93]

They did get some pressure on him, but lots of times Steve had all day to throw & guys running free in the secondary in man on man coverage & he just wouldn't throw the freaking ball. I think the coaches have completely mind-f**ked him.


Whatever's causing it needs to be corrected. Why do you blame the coaches for it?

[Superaggie79]

Because he threw into tighter coverages in high school. They want him to "manage" the game so badly it's freaked him.

[4thgenerationag]

Texags claims that the coaching staff is saving the passing plays for the Miami game - thoughts? :huh::huh::huh:

[Superaggie79]

http://sketches1.netfirms.com/miscphotos/delusional.jpg

[jagowar]

Whatever's causing it needs to be corrected. Why do you blame the coaches for it?
i think its not so much hes scared but its more frans style to never make the "big mistake" on offense. and i think we have seen a pattern of this first with reggie (anybody remember how open and free things were against ou when reggie was a frosh?) and how he turned into a very safe qb. i think we are seeing the same thing again.

in that ou game i think we took more downfield shots than all the games since. i know its wrong but its not that far off.

[macduff93]

i think its not so much hes scared but its more frans style to never make the "big mistake" on offense. and i think we have seen a pattern of this first with reggie (anybody remember how open and free things were against ou when reggie was a frosh?) and how he turned into a very safe qb. i think we are seeing the same thing again.

in that ou game i think we took more down field shots than all the games since. i know its wrong but its not that far off.


How open does a receiver have to be to be considered a sure thing? Would a less than sure shovel pass or screen be considered more safe than a wide open down-field receiver?
Many of the passes thrown were very high or totally off target. Does that not make you wonder how comfortable McGee is, though, given how fearless he is in general?

[Dustin00whoop]

Whatever's causing it needs to be corrected. Why do you blame the coaches for it?

Because I was talking to a couple of guys this weekend, & they said that has been the case since he took over the starting job. They are so in his head about turning the ball over that he is gun shy to a fault.

[Stobie]

I blame everyone... McGee... the guy does what he is told... but like a good leader he doesnt take chances he cannot control... but that is his shortcoming at the same time.

I blame the Oline for pass protection when we do get someone open... just seems like bad luck but oline needs to improve if we wish to improve our complete game.

I blame the recievers for getting comfortable not getting the ball through the game... you werent open, get open... ect... I know they do this, but we need to find ways for them to get open.

I blame the position coaches for not fixing this problem, from oline, to reciever, to QB ect...

I do blame Fran to for not lighting a fire in someones arse about getting this issue fixed.

Ok with that rant over my overall assesment is we have a heck of alot of junk in our closet that we need to fix before we have a solid passing game. I think our guys can do it and I believe they will... NOT one is at fault, In the whole scheme of things, I know we need improvement and we will. The question is how much!!!

GIG EM AGS!!! BTHO Anyone who plays TAMU!!!!

:gig: :towel: :flag:

[macduff93]

Because I was talking to a couple of guys this weekend, & they said that has been the case since he took over the starting job. They are so in his head about turning the ball over that he is guy shy to a fault.


:wow: I certainly hope so. ;) Sorry, couldn't let that one go, Dusty. :laugh:


I don't get the impression that McGee is that easily manipulated, especially given his instincts and gut-driven desire to win.

Burnet tells us he as a pure passer in High School. Have those skills and instincts totally vanished? I would love to see him turn that back on if not. He would be an unmanageable threat if he could, would he not?

[The Massacre]

Because I was talking to a couple of guys this weekend, & they said that has been the case since he took over the starting job. They are so in his head about turning the ball over that he is guy shy to a fault.

that sounds VERY likely to be the case. i was just thinking something similar during sat.'s game.

[Superaggie79]

i think its not so much hes scared but its more frans style to never make the "big mistake" on offense. and i think we have seen a pattern of this first with reggie (anybody remember how open and free things were against ou when reggie was a frosh?) and how he turned into a very safe qb. i think we are seeing the same thing again.

in that ou game i think we took more downfield shots than all the games since. i know its wrong but its not that far off.
And hasn't that been the blueprint to beating ou? Over the top is how most teams have successfully attacked that defense.

[Superaggie79]

Maybe he's trying to win that last qb to throw an interception thing?

[90AG]

Whatever's causing it needs to be corrected. Why do you blame the coaches for it?

can you change your avatar back...it's hard for me to recognize your princessness with the one you have up there now...

[macduff93]

can you change your avatar back...it's hard for me to recognize your princessness with the one you have up there now...


You don't like Kirk? :sad:

[90AG]

You don't like Kirk? :sad:

Don't know Kirk...Do know Rev....

[whitelightnin_23]

that sounds VERY likely to be the case. i was just thinking something similar during sat.'s game.

if D says it, I'll have to take it into consideration...he (or his sources) don't miss on much...

Wasn't reggie pretty efficient too before "the season he quit"???