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Dustin00whoop
09-06-2007, 09:44 PM
And from what I've seen things aren't as bad as I had heard. I still think Kay & Arkeith should be the starting DBs...they have looked the best so far. JP did make a great play on that ball in the end zone, but other than that, he just wasn't making plays.

That run by Goodson for the TD was sick.

How come no one (mainly Loftin) was complaining about the play calling on 3rd & 2? Once, we ran Goodson on a draw & he broke it for about 10 & a 1st down. The other time was 3rd & 2 on the two & we ran the exact same freaking play we ran against OU last year when everyone got all freaking pissed. We ran the bootleg with the option to run or pass & McGee had nothing but open field in front of him & took it in for a TD. If you're going to complain, then at least be consistent.

Mt. St. knew they were outmatched on their O-line by our D-line. The only successful running plays they had were draws &, other than the one deep ball toward the end of the half, their most successful pass plays were screens.

Harrington might not have shown up big in the stat column, but he was causing a lot of havoc in the backfield all night.

The gang tackling was awesome! Very rarely was a guy forced to make a tackle mono e mono. There was always 3 or 4 guys around the ball carrier.

Just starting the 4th so I'll update more later.

Dustin00whoop
09-06-2007, 10:04 PM
To finish it up, JJ looked great, albeit in garbage time. Nice run & a great pass to T-Mac!

Brantly & Szymanski also looked solid in the kicking game.

Slotback
09-06-2007, 10:27 PM
I did hear Harrington's name called a lot on Saturday night.

GuatemalanAg
09-06-2007, 10:49 PM
I agree with you Dustin...after actually watching the game things are not as bad as some have suggested...I really like how they are getting Mike Goodson more involved with some passes...I have enough faith on our WRs not to drop so many balls...I think that Matt Szymanski can be a difference maker in close games :gig:

Loftin
09-06-2007, 11:24 PM
How come no one (mainly Loftin) was complaining about the play calling on 3rd & 2? Once, we ran Goodson on a draw & he broke it for about 10 & a 1st down. The other time was 3rd & 2 on the two & we ran the exact same freaking play we ran against OU last year when everyone got all freaking pissed. We ran the bootleg with the option to run or pass & McGee had nothing but open field in front of him & took it in for a TD. If you're going to complain, then at least be consistent.

I did complain about J-Train not getting the ball. I did complain about us passing too much. I did complain about Fran's hesitance to give the big man the ball inside the 5.

OBVIOUSLY, when a play costs you a Big XII game, it will receive more attention than a play when we are running up the score on a I-AA team in the second half.

s_murph12
09-07-2007, 12:40 AM
It's funny how there were so many fans punching the panic button after one game. Keep the faith Ags.

hmiles619
09-07-2007, 01:08 AM
yeah, i figured once people watched it, people would feel better

Conan
09-07-2007, 01:18 AM
I was there. Not impressed with the defense or the passing game from McGee. He would've been picked off twice against Texas. Other than that I don't worry too much about it until we start to lose or cut it close. 38-7 is the most important number last Saturday.

mlp1985
09-07-2007, 01:18 AM
yeah i agree. once i watched it it wasnt as bad as i heard from a lot of people. the dbs played pretty loose and the linebackers especially mark dodge played very well. a couple of drops from the recievers but i think they'll come around. Also a very nice catch for t mac. McGee looks very strong he must of hit that weight room big time. Overall not bad, not as good as we can be, but not a bad first game.

Dustin00whoop
09-07-2007, 02:27 AM
I did complain about J-Train not getting the ball. I did complain about us passing too much. I did complain about Fran's hesitance to give the big man the ball inside the 5.

OBVIOUSLY, when a play costs you a Big XII game, it will receive more attention than a play when we are running up the score on a I-AA team in the second half.

You complained about the play call on 3rd & 2 from the 2? Really? I was out of town last weekend, so I guess I missed it....please show me.

Dustin00whoop
09-07-2007, 02:28 AM
As far as McGee & accuracy goes, he was getting hit a lot on his passes. The O-line needs to step up, first & fore most.

TexAg77
09-07-2007, 08:11 AM
Why the need to call out individual posters? Sounds like something a junior high kid does.

Just enjoy the win.

Dustin00whoop
09-07-2007, 09:53 AM
Why the need to call out individual posters? Sounds like something a junior high kid does.

Just enjoy the win.

Because said individual poster was the most adament about calling out individual personell. Enjoy your Geritol! :D

Pflugerville Ag
09-07-2007, 10:09 AM
I was there. Not impressed with the defense or the passing game from McGee. He would've been picked off twice against Texas.

You did see t.u's secondary last week, right? OU might have picked off McGee, but the only thing the sip players are picking is the seeds out of their weed.

Pflugerville Ag
09-07-2007, 10:10 AM
How come no one (mainly Loftin) was complaining about the play calling on 3rd & 2? Once, we ran Goodson on a draw & he broke it for about 10 & a 1st down. The other time was 3rd & 2 on the two & we ran the exact same freaking play we ran against OU last year when everyone got all freaking pissed. We ran the bootleg with the option to run or pass & McGee had nothing but open field in front of him & took it in for a TD. If you're going to complain, then at least be consistent.

You know the answer to that question. Just like we pointed out last year, if the play they called worked, everyone would be happy, but since it didn't work last year, everyone thinks they are smarter than the coaches. The play works this year and noone has a problem with it. Funny how that works.

Dustin00whoop
09-07-2007, 10:15 AM
Yeah, it was more rhetorical than anything. Just pointing it out.

Pumchavas28
09-07-2007, 10:19 AM
You did see t.u's secondary last week, right? OU might have picked off McGee, but the only thing the sip players are picking is the seeds out of their weed.


:laugh: :rep: after I spread some..

Pumchavas28
09-07-2007, 10:20 AM
You know the answer to that question. Just like we pointed out last year, if the play they called worked, everyone would be happy, but since it didn't work last year, everyone thinks they are smarter than the coaches. The play works this year and noone has a problem with it. Funny how that works.


That is the only thing that annoyed the hell out of me last year....

Mezentius
09-07-2007, 01:33 PM
You did see t.u's secondary last week, right? OU might have picked off McGee, but the only thing the sip players are picking is the seeds out of their weed.

That is hillarious right there.

I think the Train's biggest contribution last week was the space he created off dives on the option and via play action. The staff saw the focus Montana State was giving him and use it to their advantage.

I think this week in the heat Fran feeds him the ball.

Mole
09-07-2007, 02:01 PM
I didn't see or hear the game. I was in Nebraska. All the coverage on Monday on the local sports radio was how badly the Ags played. Dad told be they looked on-again off-again. I guess I will reserve judgement until this weekend.

Loftin
09-07-2007, 05:24 PM
You know the answer to that question. Just like we pointed out last year, if the play they called worked, everyone would be happy, but since it didn't work last year, everyone thinks they are smarter than the coaches. The play works this year and noone has a problem with it. Funny how that works.

So because no one got open and McGee had to pull a great play out of his ass, it worked? It didn't work, and McGee just made a great play against I-AA athletes. Against OU or Nebraska, that's a 4th down.

The "if it works" argument is irrelevant, because there is one option that always works. I'll give you a clue: it starts with "J" and ends in "orvorskie Lane."

Pflugerville Ag
09-07-2007, 05:36 PM
So because no one got open and McGee had to pull a great play out of his ass, it worked? It didn't work, and McGee just made a great play against I-AA athletes. Against OU or Nebraska, that's a 4th down.


He pulled it out of his ass? Way to give the rest of the offense credit. You have no clue how football is played, do you? How about the line blocked great and the WR's sold their routes so well that McGee was able to walk into the endzone?

Have you ever been involved with an organized football team or do you have your vast amount of knowledge from watching it on TV?

Loftin
09-07-2007, 05:43 PM
He pulled it out of his ass? Way to give the rest of the offense credit. You have no clue how football is played, do you? How about the line blocked great and the WR's sold their routes so well that McGee was able to walk into the endzone?

Have you ever been involved with an organized football team or do you have your vast amount of knowledge from watching it on TV?

Are you telling me that was a designed run play, because I SERIOUSLY doubt it. If it was a playaction pass, as I suspect it was, then the play was broken and McGee just made it happen. Good play by McGee, bad play call by Fran.

And yes, I've played organized football. I started at left guard my senior year of HS. It's safe to say I know a thing or two about blocking and how a play is supposed to work. Have you played football, pflug? Or do you just play Madden and think it's that easy to move an offense?

Mezentius
09-07-2007, 05:46 PM
I think it was a counter bootleg with a run pass option. He pulled down the ball pretty fast to have gone through a ton of progressions. The play was probably designed around a read on a safety/end/lb.

Pflugerville Ag
09-07-2007, 05:52 PM
. Have you played football, pflug? Or do you just play Madden and think it's that easy to move an offense?

Started for 2 years at McCullough HS in the Woodlands (now The Woodland HS) at WR and Safety. Had smaller schools contacting me about possible scholarships, but blew out my shoulder midway through my senior season.

If you pay attention to any of Fran's press conferences, you'd know that those types of plays are McGee's decision on what he wants to do (run or pass). Plus, he is given multiple plays to call and chooses what is best based on how the defense lines up.

TexAgFromCal
09-07-2007, 05:53 PM
How come no one (mainly Loftin) was complaining about the play calling on 3rd & 2? Once, we ran Goodson on a draw & he broke it for about 10 & a 1st down. The other time was 3rd & 2 on the two & we ran the exact same freaking play we ran against OU last year when everyone got all freaking pissed. We ran the bootleg with the option to run or pass & McGee had nothing but open field in front of him & took it in for a TD. If you're going to complain, then at least be consistent.


I will be consistent on this comment. I am ecstatic that our coaches can call a scoring play on 3rd and short against a D2 team with inferior talent and a coaching staff that was hired in JUNE. That is outstanding that we are paying a coaching staff as much as we are and they can make the same play that didn't work against OU last year work against a crappy D2 team.

There is no excuse for the yards we gave up last week to a poor team. The excuse of not having any tape on them is crap. That implies that we would give up that many yards to a high school team that we don't have any tape on.

Give me an f'ing break. I don't care that Michigan lost last week and it was the first game of the year. NEWS FLASH it was also THEIR first game. We should have been able to beat them on athleticism alone and allowed less yards.

Vlyrock
09-07-2007, 06:14 PM
I think it was a counter bootleg with a run pass option. He pulled down the ball pretty fast to have gone through a ton of progressions. The play was probably designed around a read on a safety/end/lb.

You are right...it was a run read with Bennett being the hot read. McGee had tons of room so he walked in.

Dustin00whoop
09-10-2007, 05:23 PM
You are right...it was a run read with Bennett being the hot read. McGee had tons of room so he walked in.

Loftin is going to need a link.