L$U wants to play us

[Pflugerville Ag]

Not that we didn't really know this already, but L$U has officially said that they want to play us in 2008, but that Byrne told them to fu** off. Thoughts? Would you guys want to play them again in an OOC game? I can see both sides of it. It would be a blast for the fans to play them every year (either rotate home games or keep it in Houston at Reliant), but it would also make recruiting against them a little tougher.


At the top of Ausberry’s list: Texas A&M. Unfortunately, he said, A&M Athletic Director Bill Byrne isn’t biting.

Byrne’s contention, according to Ausberry, is LSU’s decision in the 1990s to cancel the final two years of the contract between the two schools set for 1996 and 1997.
The Tigers and Aggies played home-and-home from 1985-95 but haven’t met since in football — not even in a bowl game.

“He said people there have long memories,” Ausberry said

http://www.2theadvocate.com/sports/lsu/featured/7738937.html

[Pumchavas28]

I would love for the Ags to play them.....

Hell we had FSU scheduled, we have Miami right now.... I would love for the Big 12 to go around & start picking on the other BCS conferences & start playing them....

Man up & put your helmet where your mouth is....

A&M vs LSU would be great... although winning at their place would be a bytch... I think the Ags could take em at Kyle by 10 points.... JMO.....


NO SCORE PREDICTION!!
A&M WINS PERIOD!!!!!!!!

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[Superaggie79]

I think it'd be awesome and necessary to be considered an elite program

[jagowar]

I would like to see it played every year.... would give us that one "marquee" game every year.

That said im sure byrne/fran would be scared sh%wwtless to play those guys right now. We still need a few more years to get back to a point where we could beat every year. No need to play this game when we would just get our asses kicked every year (like we would have the past 5 yrs)

[Pflugerville Ag]

SA, why would it be necessary to be an elite program? Plenty of elite programs never play anyone in OOC games.

[hmiles619]

they want to play a home and home or at a neutral site?

[CoolaidWade]

I think it'd be awesome and necessary to be considered an elite program


Yeah, I agree. Put the past behind and let's play them. Our non-conference is historically a joke. I'm glad were playing Miami but we need to start getting more teams in there. If LSU wants to play us I say let's tack them on.

[Superaggie79]

SA, why would it be necessary to be an elite program? Plenty of elite programs never play anyone in OOC games.
But this would make us super elite. Sorta like how USC has stepped and played Nebraska, tu played ohio state, notre dame plays the service academies ;)

[aggie1997]

I wish we would bring that series back. It was one of the greatest OOC match-ups there was.

[Pflugerville Ag]

they want to play a home and home or at a neutral site?

Not sure, but it sounded like they just wanted a game in '08.

[Pflugerville Ag]

SA, no way you can include t.u. in that list of having a hard OOC schedule. The tOSU series was the first tough OOC game they have played in a long freaking time.

Wade,
What team do you follow? How is our OOC schedule "historically a joke?" In the last 10 years, we have played Florida State, Notre Dame, Pittsburg, Va Tech, Utah, Clemson, and now Miami. Plus, Florida State backed out of a series. That is no joke of an OOC schedule.

[Pumchavas28]

Lets not forget Michigan State backed out also.....

[Superaggie79]

SA, no way you can include t.u. in that list of having a hard OOC schedule. The tOSU series was the first tough OOC game they have played in a long freaking time.

Wade,
What team do you follow? How is our OOC schedule "historically a joke?" In the last 10 years, we have played Florida State, Notre Dame, Pittsburg, Va Tech, Utah, Clemson, and now Miami. Plus, Florida State backed out of a series. That is no joke of an OOC schedule.
not great teams.

[Dustin00whoop]

Didn't Utah go undefeated the year we played them?

[Superaggie79]

yes but it still wasn't a name team to play when we played them. When we scheduled them they were just another win marked up for us.

[Pflugerville Ag]

SA, you are showing some serious ignorance. Utah, Clemson, and Pittsburg were all ranked teams when we played them.

[Superaggie79]

And other than Utah (who I explained we scheduled as a "W" the fact they did so well was a surprise) how did they perform? And they're not a "name" team on a national level. Clemson is notorious for under achieving and without Fitzgerald Pitt would be nobody. Scheduling so far in advance those aren't that impressive of games.

[Superaggie79]

Also if you do some research. Pitt wasn't ranked when we lost to them Utah was 19 and Clemson was 25.

[Dustin00whoop]

So now the OOC schedule & the quality of it has to do with intent? I know they were all ranked teams, but we didn't expect them to be ranked when we scheduled them, so our OOC schedule sucks! :laugh:

[Superaggie79]

So now the OOC schedule & the quality of it has to do with intent? I know they were all ranked teams, but we didn't expect them to be ranked when we scheduled them, so our OOC schedule sucks! :laugh:
If you schedule a team with the understanding that the teams won't be very tough than that doesn't speak much for our scheduling.

[Pflugerville Ag]

For teams that were not "name teams on a national level," kinda funny that they were nationally telelvised ESPN/ABC/TBS games. I guess TV execs normally likes to telelvise a bunch of no name teams for their marquee games, don't they?

[Pflugerville Ag]

If you schedule a team with the understanding that the teams won't be very tough than that doesn't speak much for our scheduling.

So I guess Byrne has a crystal ball in his office that tells him how good teams are going to be 10 years from now.

[Superaggie79]

So I guess Byrne has a crystal ball in his office that tells him how good teams are going to be 10 years from now.
nope but there's better odds that LSU will be better than Utah

[Pflugerville Ag]

nope but there's better odds that LSU will be better than Utah

So when we scheduled Utah and Notre Dame, I guess you thought Notre Dame would be much better than Utah, right?

[blackgloves]

I for one want to see us play L$U each year or atleast put them on the schedule for a home and away game. The ONLY bad thing about the whole ordeal is that L$U gains more from this than we do. They dont have a whole lot of problems recruiting Texas players. And no the flip side theres not tons of talent in LA for us to impress as we trip to play them there in LA

But schedule it for the 3rd or 4th game each year in our OOC and that would be great

[Superaggie79]

I for one want to see us play L$U each year or atleast put them on the schedule for a home and away game. The ONLY bad thing about the whole ordeal is that L$U gains more from this than we do. They dont have a whole lot of problems recruiting Texas players. And no the flip side theres not tons of talent in LA for us to impress as we trip to play them there in LA

But schedule it for the 3rd or 4th game each year in our OOC and that would be great
Our OOC is already stellar :bored:

[Pflugerville Ag]

I want to see us play one team from a BCS conference and two cupcakes each year. Until there is a playoff system in college football, scheduling anything else is stupid if you want to have a chance of playing for a national championship.

[blackgloves]

Our OOC is already stellar :bored:

SA...

We haven't played one team in the last 3 or 4 years that is on the same level as L$U.

Miami is not.... historically good but not on the same level as L$U right now
Clemson wasn't, and never has been
Utah.... dont kid yourself

[Superaggie79]

SA...

We haven't played one team in the last 3 or 4 years that is on the same level as L$U.

Miami is not.... historically good but not on the same level as L$U right now
Clemson wasn't, and never has been
Utah.... dont kid yourself
I was being sarcastic

[Dustin00whoop]

Do you want a National Championship or a stellar OOC schedule?

[Superaggie79]

I want to see us play one team from a BCS conference and two cupcakes each year. Until there is a playoff system in college football, scheduling anything else is stupid if you want to have a chance of playing for a national championship.
what do we do with the extra game they're adding?

[blackgloves]

Do you want a National Championship or a stellar OOC schedule?


in order to achieve a MNC you must have a great OOC schedule, so my answer is "both"

we need a Miami or a L$U on our schedule (not both) each year

[Pflugerville Ag]

in order to achieve a MNC you must have a great OOC schedule, so my answer is "both"

we need a Miami or a L$U on our schedule (not both) each year

You don't need a stellar OOC schedule to win a MNC if you are in the Big 12. Run the table and chances are, you will be playing for a MNC. Go ahead and point out that Auburn got screwed a few years ago, but that is not going to happen very often. I want the ags to win a national championship and am willing to sacrifice a super hard OOC schedule to do so.

[whitelightnin_23]

You don't need a stellar OOC schedule to win a MNC if you are in the Big 12. Run the table and chances are, you will be playing for a MNC. Go ahead and point out that Auburn got screwed a few years ago, but that is not going to happen very often. I want the ags to win a national championship and am willing to sacrifice a super hard OOC schedule to do so.

agreed...
:popcorn:

[blackgloves]

You don't need a stellar OOC schedule to win a MNC if you are in the Big 12. Run the table and chances are, you will be playing for a MNC. Go ahead and point out that Auburn got screwed a few years ago, but that is not going to happen very often. I want the ags to win a national championship and am willing to sacrifice a super hard OOC schedule to do so.

Yes Auburn and any year that we damn near had a 3 undefeated or 3-one loss teams

Run the tables with a butter milk OOC schedule decent chance

run the table with one tough OCC and theres no question

[Dustin00whoop]

In order to win a MNC you need to have one "tough" OOC game! I wouldn't consider one OOC game with two or three cupcakes to be a stellar OOC schedule, but maybe you would! Bottom line is, you aren't going to win a MNC by scheduling two big name teams & two middle-of-the-road teams!

[blackgloves]

how about this:

One team is undefeated.... Say USC and A&M, L$U, Florida and ARK all have one loss

Does the maroon and white get to play the undefeated team for the MNC?

[Superaggie79]

Past National Champs OOC
Florida: FSU, W. Carolina, Southern Miss, UCF
Texas: Ulala, tOSU, Rice
USC: VaTech, BYU, Notre Dame, Colorado State
LSU: LaMonroe, Arizona, Western Illinois, LaTech
tOSU:T Tech, Wazzu, Kent State, Cinci, San Diego State

[blackgloves]

each one of those has a really good team or two on their schedule, for sure Florida. t.u played Ohio freaking State

USC played ND!!!

Arizona is not a total cup cake but at the same time not a power house

[Superaggie79]

Yeah LSU is the exception there. Wazzu was #7 when tOSU played them.

[whitelightnin_23]

Past National Champs OOC
Florida: FSU, Tenn, W. Carolina, Southern Miss, UCF
Texas: Ulala, tOSU, Rice
USC: VaTech, BYU, Notre Dame, Colorado State
LSU: LaMonroe, Arizona, Western Illinois, LaTech
tOSU:T Tech, Wazzu, Kent State, Cinci, San Diego State

I assume you meant middle tennessee, TSU, or tennessee tech (for Florida's OOC)??? TN is in the SEC.

[Superaggie79]

crap... I guess I was thinking I was in another conference. :sad:

I edited it

[Dustin00whoop]

One decent team for each school & all the rest are cupcakes! You can't count Wazzu as being good for tOSU because no one expected Wazzu to be good when tOSU originally scheduled them!

[Pflugerville Ag]

One decent team for each school & all the rest are cupcakes! You can't count Wazzu as being good for tOSU because no one expected Wazzu to be good when tOSU originally scheduled them!

damn, beat me to it!

[blackgloves]

One decent team for each school & all the rest are cupcakes! You can't count Wazzu as being good for tOSU because no one expected Wazzu to be good when tOSU originally scheduled them!


If we ended up a one loss team last year would we have bounced FL or Mich for the title game with Ohio State?

[Pflugerville Ag]

Anyone think the sips expected TCU to be worth a **** when they scheduled this year's game many years ago?

[Dustin00whoop]

If we ended up a one loss team last year would we have bounced FL or Mich for the title game with Ohio State?

Don't lose one game & you don't have to worry about it! Thats our whole point...the easiest road to being undefeated is the best chance for playing for a national title!

[blackgloves]

Don't lose one game & you don't have to worry about it! Thats our whole point...the easiest road to being undefeated is the best chance for playing for a national title!


ok you wanna go that route then we go back to when Auburn go hosed


again, give me one really good OOC game or give me a playoff system

nothing else is worth a damn. You dont have a notable person on the OOC schedule then you cross your fingers that theres not more than one undefeated team. thats lame

[Pflugerville Ag]

Exactly Dustin. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that. Now if the NCAA ever goes to an 8 team playoff where a loss or even 2 wouldn't matter as much, then I will be all for scheduling a harder OOC schedule.

[blackgloves]

Anyone think the sips expected TCU to be worth a **** when they scheduled this year's game many years ago?


No I think they thought TCU would be pretty good, I just think they thought in 07 they would be far better. Typical sip thinking. Now look at them.... probably the worst football team they will have in 4-6 years. Still good but Im putting money on TCU

[Pflugerville Ag]

ok you wanna go that route then we go back to when Auburn go hosed

again, give me one really good OOC game or give me a playoff system

nothing else is worth a damn. You dont have a notable person on the OOC schedule then you cross your fingers that theres not more than one undefeated team. thats lame

Blame that on the system, not the school for not scheduling hard OOC games.

[blackgloves]

Exactly Dustin. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that. Now if the NCAA ever goes to an 8 team playoff where a loss or even 2 wouldn't matter as much, then I will be all for scheduling a harder OOC schedule.


I understand it just fine

as soon as we go undefeated with nothing but cup cakes and get run out of the big game due to FL, USC, or MICH being undefeated then Ill come back and say

"I dont see what is so hard to understand" for guys like you that think because you run the table your in it

[blackgloves]

Blame that on the system, not the school for not scheduling hard OOC games.


Or accept the system sucks and do the right thing

schedule one of the following Miami, L$U, ARK a TCU someone that people can recognize

[Pflugerville Ag]

How are you guys gonna feel when we lose to Miami next year and then run the table after that and miss out on the MNC game!! :)

[Pumchavas28]

I gotta tip my hat off to LSU for even talking to A&M about it.....


Folks always bash the SEC for not playing anyone OOC, I know I have heard several on here to include myself of the same...

Part of me kinda feels jipped because they came calling & A&M is saying no....

It would be nice to see the SEC play better teams...



But this goes back to my solution for that..... Whoever you play in a bowl game... you play them the following year in your OOC schedule with winner of said bowl game getting home field for that game......:gig:

[Pumchavas28]

How are you guys gonna feel when we lose to Miami next year and then run the table after that and miss out on the MNC game!! :)


Miami will lose.. (in my Ivan Drago voice)

[Pflugerville Ag]

I think its badass that Byrne told them to fu** off b/c of what they did to us.

[blackgloves]

:rep: for starting a thread (creating good talk)

[Superaggie79]

I think it'd be more badass if we nutted up and added a tiger pelt to the wall

[Dustin00whoop]

BG, your example of Auburn has happened exactly once! However, one loss schools get screwed damn near every year. So I'll take my chances of going undefeated in the Big XII!

[blackgloves]

BG, your example of Auburn has happened exactly once! However, one loss schools get screwed damn near every year. So I'll take my chances of going undefeated in the Big XII!


what about in 06? Mich had one loss, so did FL, Bosie "ran the table"

[Pflugerville Ag]

what about in 06? Mich had one loss, so did FL, Bosie "ran the table"

Boise St. going undefeated is not the same as a team in the Big 12 doing the same. You know that.

[Dustin00whoop]

Hence the reason I said, I'll take my chances of going undefeated in the BIG XII!

[blackgloves]

Boise St. going undefeated is not the same as a team in the Big 12 doing the same. You know that.


Yet they beat our #1 team here in the mighty Big XII

[blackgloves]

Hence the reason I said, I'll take my chances of going undefeated in the BIG XII!


you see what Im creating? a debate

the same debate your gonna have with a undefeated A&M waxing 4 girlie schools for OOC

[Superaggie79]

are we talking bikini or brazilian?

[Dustin00whoop]

you see what Im creating? a debate

the same debate your gonna have with a undefeated A&M waxing 4 girlie schools for OOC

As soon as a Big XII team goes undefeated & gets left out of the Championship game (regardless of who they played in OOC), then I'll listen to you! Until then, lets concentrate on going undefeated!

[whitelightnin_23]

are we talking bikini or brazilian?

the Telly Suvallis special.

[Loftin]

I am 100% against playing LSU OOC. They backed out of our deal when our program reached its' peak and theirs was dropping. And now that we have Fran and they are a perennial top 10 team, they want to play us? Screw that!

I am all for us making our OOC schedule better. Playing Miami for 2 years is a great start. However, I wouldn't play LSU anywhere outside of College Station unless they pony up some(lots) reparation money.

[MarylandAG]

Interesting, all the factors seem to be in LSU's favor and now they want to play. Yep we have long memories in TX and people in LA have short ones. I vividly recall the games LSU came to Kyle, I also recall a player, Harvey Williams (RB), that pulled a Perioulx on us, bad blood between the schools back then.

[Mezentius]

I would love to see a home and home series with LSU.

Historically good rivalry...my dad has stories of the games he went to in Baton Rouge in the 60's.

I don't want to give LSU a free pass to have unofficial visits easily done in Houston while we can officially host recruits during home game years.

Seeing a game as a visiting fan in Death Valley is a pain the arse but its still a good time.

I'm all for as many big games as possible. I would imagine both would stand a good chance of being night games on ESPN, especially the road game.

IMO you can't be a great team without a great schedule. I say play all comers.