transgender?

[blackgloves]

I was watching MSNBC last night. The show was about "transgender" people. They had about 5 or 6 people, most of them pretty young and telling their stories. All felt they had been born in the wrong body. Meaning, though born a boy, they should be a girl, or vise versa..

Anyways, so heres my questions for you all.

1. If you had a child that wanted to be "transgender" either have the surgery, or just live their life as the opposite sex (with or without the surger). How you would feel about that? Would you be expecting of it?

2. Could you be friends with a "transgender"? Doesn't matter if you are a man befriending a girl becoming a man... any senerio you can think up.

Heres the link to the show
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18250458/

[Loftin]

Screw being PC, here's an honest answer:

1. I would feel shame.

2. No.

[BAGGIO]

1: I would feel rage, the kid would feel belts and scorn

2: no friggin way.

[The Massacre]

1. it would be the suck
2. no

[blackgloves]

Did yall check the link and see some of these people? kinda scary.....

[The Massacre]

i'd rather keep my appetite, ty though.

[Dustin00whoop]

1. no way of knowing until I was put in that position, but right now I would say no way.

2. I guess it could be possible to be friends with one w/o even knowing it. But I wouldn't go out of my way to befriend this type of person.

[BAGGIO]

me and my girlfriend decided its gross. her name is carl, shes gorgeous;)

[blackgloves]

1. no way of knowing until I was put in that position, but right now I would say no way.

2. I guess it could be possible to be friends with one w/o even knowing it. But I wouldn't go out of my way to befriend this type of person.

Im basically in the same boat as you.

Here was my take back in 98. I was fresh out of bootcamp and had lived 18 years of my life in a town of about 350 people

I stepped on board my ship (US Navy) and the first person I befriended was a guy named Marshall. Shortly after we became friends, I remember telling him when the "gay" topic came up "Yeah, Id like to catch one of those fheggets in a alley and beat them till they damn near were dead"

4 months later, after being best friends I was told by another person he was "gay" Sure enough... he was bisexual. He had a girlfriend and even a child. But I was soooo naive due to the town and life I grew up in.

So he was my first "gay friend" It was awkward at first. But as I grew older and so forth, Ive had several bi sexual friends or gay friends. Wierd thing is. Ill make friends with a guy that has a girlfriend or even a kid, then I find out months later... :(

Ok... Then at work I get a call from a coworker one day "dude... we just hired a "IT" I was like what? They go on and on to tell me that we hired someone that was born a girl but is crossing over. We put a lock on one of our bathrooms so this particular person has a neutral bathroom (lock it behind you) anyone could use it. I thought to myself... What the hell.... why are we making these arrangements for someone. This is gonna be weird as hell working with this person

Two weeks later Im driving to work, knowing I have to work with this person and Im dreeding it like hell. This story is getting to long so Ill shorten it up. basically 2 or 3 times of working with this person... we became very good friends. All the questions that us "hetrosexuals" have, I asked "dude...what did your parents say" "do you JUST like girls" "are you gonna go through with surgery and all that stuff" he was as cool about it as you could imagine. though he was born a girl.... he acted, looked like one of the guys. He likes girls just like us... not interested at all with guys.

With that said, we've become very good friends since that day. Now I will admit this, if this person had been born a boy and was flipping over to a girl, I couldn't be friends with them. I would always think a gay guy was trying to hook up with me.

[tjdavis27]

1. :headslap:
2. No

[The Massacre]

me and my girlfriend decided its gross. her name is carl, shes gorgeous;)

do you call her Hot Carl?

[Mole]

1. I think childern under the age of 18 need to be supervised and sheparded by their parents. I think you will find that most of these youngsters attitudes are nurtured by their parents. Who instead of helping them fullfill and grow into their adult male or female roles allow them to get into this gender confusion.

2. As long as the transgendered person I knew was a good person I wouldn't have a problem with them. Live and let live.

[blackgloves]

1. I think childern under the age of 18 need to be supervised and sheparded by their parents. I think you will find that most of these youngsters attitudes are nurtured by their parents. Who instead of helping them fullfill and grow into their adult male or female roles allow them to get into this gender confusion.

2. As long as the transgendered person I knew was a good person I wouldn't have a problem with them. Live and let live.

Thing is, most of the ones on this show and my friend will tell you.

They felt this away since they were very little. Like 4 or 5 years old

Now I wasn't in their household so I cant speak on the parents. But most transgenders seem to feel this away at a very young age

[BAGGIO]

if youre a boy and your dad is a rodeo cowboy your not gonna feel like yu should of been born a girl, if youre a boy and your dad is tu's football coach you might feel that way. Thinking God got it wrong with you = bad parenting.

[Curly06]

ifThinking God got it wrong with you = bad parenting.
:rep:

God doesnt make mistakes- enough said

[blackgloves]

Thinking God got it wrong with you = bad parenting.

agreed

[Mole]

Thing is, most of the ones on this show and my friend will tell you.

They felt this away since they were very little. Like 4 or 5 years old

Now I wasn't in their household so I cant speak on the parents. But most transgenders seem to feel this away at a very young age

That's the point I was trying to make. From the age of 4 or 5 the parents should have been helping this young boy or girl develop into a man or a woman. The only reason a 4 or 5 year old thinks they should be a different sex is because the parents allow it. Parents should be there to help shepard their children and help them sort through their emotions and define proper gender roles.

[blackgloves]

That's the point I was trying to make. From the age of 4 or 5 the parents should have been helping this young boy or girl develop into a man or a woman. The only reason a 4 or 5 year old thinks they should be a different sex is because the parents allow it. Parents should be there to help shepard their children and help them sort through their emotions and define proper gender roles.

well as far as that goes I cant agree or disagree then. Ive never lived a life as a "transgender" nor have I had a kid or lived in a house with a "transgender"

So im not gonna judge the parents or try to tell a transgender how they feel or shoulda felt.

I dont agree with it, its against my Christian belief. But I cant tread those grounds because I would have no way of knowing

[Curly06]

its not judging- its do you condone the behavior?
by keepin your mouth shut on a topic you believe is wrong you are supporting their postition
i would love my kids but def not support the decision

[BAGGIO]

i honsetly would disown my child if it did that. hell, Oh have you met my "daughter", her name is abby which is short for abomination.

[blackgloves]

its not judging- its do you condone the behavior?
by keepin your mouth shut on a topic you believe is wrong you are supporting their postition
i would love my kids but def not support the decision

curly curly curly curly...

I was waiting on you to challenge me on this.

I have CLEARLY stated I dont agree with it. Here in this very thread and to my friend that is. We respect each other and our opinions and beliefs. I made my point clear with him and I thought I made my point clear when I brought up my faith here on this thread.

If my child turned out that away... I said I would take the path Dustin mentioned. Id have to cross that road first. I know I dont agree or believe its right. But Im not sure Im gonna kick my kid to the curb for the rest of my life to never see them again, because of a disagreement (for a lack of a better word)

[Curly06]

im not challenging you on anything:bored:

try reading the post again- it doesnt have your name nor does it say you agree with the topic