The HMiles619 Playoff System

[hmiles619]

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I Have The March Madness
The season of March Madness officially starts today with Selection Sunday and all of the drama and second-guessing to follow. I have the March Madness. I caught it tonight and I can't wait to see where it takes me.

I'll admit. I haven't always been a NCAA basketball fan. I didn't have a team to live and die with as they went for it all in the national championship. I didn't spend my weekends in March in front of the TV checking my bracket for the latest upset.

But now I have a team. The Aggies will be in it as a #2 or #3 seed and I know that we'll either win the national championship, or I'll spend one weekend absolutely crushed.

It sucks to know that I'll probably spend a weekend disappointed, but can you imagine the excitement if we won it all? University Drive would have to be shut down because the students would be running wild from northgate into the streets. Even I (the cheap one) may have to buy a round for everyone.

I couldn't find the Vegas odds on our national championship, but even the women's team has a 25 to 1 chance to win it all. I know I'm getting a little too worked up over this but hey, there's a chance.

So who's with me? Who will live or die with their favorite team? My couch better be ready. I'll be there for most of the month.

[Loftin]

Everyone has wanted this for years. Why can't the NCAA just give us fans what we want?

[PinetarAg]

but you could still end up wiht Mich/ohio state rematch which everyone is against (i'm in favor).

how is that different than them playing right now--not because everyone thinks the real controversy is who is number #2 florida or Mich but don't let Mich have a rematch

[Loftin]

but you could still end up wiht Mich/ohio state rematch which everyone is against (i'm in favor).

how is that different than them playing right now--not because everyone thinks the real controversy is who is number #2 florida or Mich but don't let Mich have a rematch

I think that if Michigan beat Boise State and Florida in a playoff, you wouldn't have people against the rematch. The reason most people don't want a rematch is that Florida would get screwed.

[hmiles619]

exactly, the problem now is that if they have a rematch and michigan wins then who is the real champion...is it michigan, is it florida, is it ohio state?

[WesTxAg]

it's the winner of the National Championship Game....no one looks back on the Super Bowl and says well, Cincinnati had beaten the Steelers earlier in the year, so by default, the Bengals deserve the title. It's that easy, accept the "title" of the game that is being played.
Argument: That means the first game that they(OSU vs. Mich) play means nothing! College football has the best regular season in all of sports...
Answer: Bullsheet! I'd rather play Louisville or USC--two struggling teams--than play the big 12 champ or the SEC champ. Or God forbid Boise isn't voted in and they go with a real team like LSU and you have to get by them in the first round. There's still controversy, there's still a VERY VERY important regular season, you've just added a THRILLING postseason! I'd rather watch these second round matchups or even some of these first round matchups rather than LSU vs. Notre Dame or Wake vs. Louisville.

[Burnetaggie99]

Just keep the bowls and have a +1 game system.

[thissamguy]

Just keep the bowls and have a +1 game system.

what do you do in a year where there are two clear cut options for the national championship?

[TwelfthAG]

How about we stop keeping score and call everyone the national champion. We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings ;)

[thissamguy]

I'm for an 8 team playoff these days, only fear is it expanding to 16 teams or more. That would be terrible.

[Asn-man]

Good post hmiles619!

I agree with all of it...now explain to me the time line?

If the bowl system goes off as planned, I would assume you are now down to 4 teams. When and where do those teams play? And who gets the semi-final and championship round games if the bowls have already been played?

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[Vlyrock]

You could play 2 games at the Fiesta (the top 2 in the bracket), the bottom 2 games in the Sugar Bowl. The semifinals (both games) in the Rose Bowl...and the Championship game in the Orange Bowl.

It rotates each year as well.

[Asn-man]

Yea I agree.

Like a poster said above, I don't know why they can't do it and give the fans what they want. Personally I feel it would be great for college football.

[hmiles619]

no vly, that's what i'm trying to avoid...How stupid is it that one team gets to play in three bowls in one year. Just have the higher seeded team host it at their home field, and at the end, everyone goes to a bcs bowl.

asn-man, timeline would start this weekend. Higher seeded teams host games this week, then next week would be the second round (or you could skip a week) then all games would be held in their normal bowl times.

[PinetarAg]

Here is the problem I think--we all agree Michigan and Ohio State would be in the plaoffs if either of them lost to each other--so we would have never had the game we had. Carr and Tressel could have easily rested a few players and called a more conservative playbook not to expose the whole things in case they play again. Once you expand to 8 teams or 16 teams that becomes more likely. The way it is now every game impacts the NC (which is what people want--play it out on the field). However I do feel something needs to happen. I think the +1 system would keeps the regular season as close to what it is ensureing only 4 teams get in.

if the field expands too big then games like tOSU and tu don't happen because they have nothing to risk playing each other. All you have to be is in the top 8 or 16 and can do that with conference victories. But if you have to be in the top 4 then you need a better marqee win or wins.

Now the Michigan OSU rematch that could have happened-- I think yall took was I was saying the wrong way, maybe I didn't explain it well. People do not think Florida is the #2 team in the nation...they simply do not want a rematch. They would rather see a very very good florida team have a shot. I think Michigan is a #2 and Florida could be a 2.5 or 3. Either way Michigan is better. the voters did not vote Florida the second best team they voted not to see a rematch. As far as solving it on the field how would you ok with Michigan not playing now but would be ok if they met in the playoff system. To me that is the same thing you take the best two teams and you play them that is what is great about the BCS. Playoff systems are good becasue a team that gets hot at the end can win it all regardless of how good they are or the season records (even head to head records). So they arguement of who the best eam is will still be evident. the cardinals won the world series and the world series wasn't that great of a draw becasue the two best teams were not playing. Hell out of the two teams one was a wildcard and the other a sub 85 win team. Now I enjoyed it but America did not. I would hate to the the NCAA NC game turn out to be something like that.

[PinetarAg]

maybe i should have wrote my own article lol

[GregH]

The more and more I think of a playoff system the more and more I disagree with using one. I have some mixed feelings about it.

[90AG]

I like the idea and the layout with both bowls and playoffs... but why not just go with the top 8 teams in the BCS? In the example above you leave out #4 LSU and #7 Wisconsin in the BCS who are both more deserving that Boise St. if for nothing else than the schedule they played in conference...

As for the Michigan/tOSU rematch, this method seems to solve the problem and I agree that nobody would be griping about it if they won their brackets and matched each other again...in fact, I think people would be hoping that they did to prove they should GET the rematch instead of having it decided by someone else's agenda...

[hmiles619]

I can see where top 8 in the BCS would be a good idea. The problem I see is getting the conferences to agree with it.

[90AG]

It really doesnt change their position though...it gives their top team(or teams) an opportunity to make more money during the playoff and have a fighting chance for more of their teams to get into the NC, and if their top team isnt in the top 8, then they're still making the same money at the same bowl they go to today.

[abileneag06]

Pinetar, do you honestly think that tOSU or Michigan would sit players or hold back to win the game. I think that you vastly underestimate the rivalry. That would be the equivilant of Fran sitting players vs. Texas if we already had the Big XII south wrapped up. Would you stand for that? I didn't think so. You wouldn't I wouldn't and nobody else would. Plus losing would drastically affect your seeding in the proposed playoff system which would generally be a bad thing.

Also, hMiles, do you really have Boise seeded above Wake Forest and Michigan seeded #2? I think that you should examine that. Also, on a practical not e, there would never be a playoff system that didn't automatically include Notre Dame if they were ranked top 10 because their couldn't be a playoff if they didn't sign off on it and they wouldn't sign off on it if that clause wasn't in there.

All of that aside I would prefer a 16 team or maybe even a 32 team playoff because I think that the team ranked #17 would have a legit complaint that they might could win (i.e. if they came on late in the year or had injuries or tough losses/ bad officiating). Just as I think that Wisconsin has a legitimate complaint that they got no consideration for the title game considering they had only one loss to a better team than Florida lost to, or OU because the only reason they weren't considered for the Title game was that they had a COMPLETE bs loss to Oregon and a legit loss to a very good Texas team. Can you honestly tell me that you think that Tennesee or BYU or even A&M would have NO chance versus tOSU, especially considering that tOSU is a team that only beat Illinois 17-10 pretty recently. I'm not saying that any teams ranked that low would make it to the title game of said playoff but just look at the Pittsburgh Steelers last year. There are very few people that think they were the best NFL team last year (and the ones that do are Steeler fans), hell they weren't even the best team in the Superbowl, just got some random big plays.

Continuing in regards to a bigger playoff field you could include every conference champion (just like Men's Basketball) and avoid any Utah like situations from a couple of years ago. Yes, maybe a couple of really good teams like LSU would be left out but the bottom line is that if you don't win your confrence or division you probably shouldn't bitcch about not getting a title shot.

In closing, I'm sorry that this post is so fragmented, I'm just taking a break from studying and it feels like I have been at Evans or WCL for the past week strait.

[hmiles619]

Also, hMiles, do you really have Boise seeded above Wake Forest and Michigan seeded #2? I think that you should examine that.

Michigan is a #3 seed. I explained my rules pretty clearly. They are seeded according to BCS ranking.

[Pumchavas28]

A playoff is better plain & simple!!!

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[abileneag06]

Why do you need rules for seeding? I think it would be much smarter to have a human selection comittee like basketball.

[hmiles619]

because rules take out alot of the controversey associated with a committee being biased. The seeding can easily be done with the system that is already in place....no need for another committee

[abileneag06]

i don't know if you have noticed hmiles, but computers only seem to add controversy.

[thissamguy]

Do you think they will really call it "The HMiles619 Playoff System"? That would be so bad ass!!

[Pumchavas28]

If There were rules as to who gets in & who doesn't, everyone would know what to expect & what it takes to get there & not automatically assume that 1 loss at the wrong time of the year, knocks them out...

[Pumchavas28]

Why would Mich & Boise be higher seeds than Conference Champs? Just curious... that doesn't make sense to me.

[hmiles619]

because they're seeded by BCS rankings....rules are rules

[hmiles619]

Also, this is how the NCAA basketball tourney works

[Pumchavas28]

Also, this is how the NCAA basketball tourney works


But it's not B-Ball.. Why wouldn't you have Conference winners get higher seeding, same way the NFL has Division Winners be seeded higher.

[hmiles619]

ehh, that'd work for me too...i'm fine with that