Which would you prefer?

[Dustin00whoop]

1.) A coach who wins the games he is supposed to win, has his team ready to go every week, but losses some games that he is expected to lose.

2.) Or, a coach who may win some of the games he is expected to lose but also fails to have his team focused every week & losses some games that he is expected to win.

[Superaggie79]

C) a coach that builds a program to where you are expected to win more than half of your conference games.

[Pumchavas28]

C) a coach that builds a program to where you are expected to win more than half of your conference games.


Way to answer the question with one of the choices given..... typical.....

[Superaggie79]

Then don't have such extremes in answers.. They're designed to make people like me look bad. I don't want either.

[Pumchavas28]

Then don't have such extremes in answers.. They're designed to make people like me look bad. I don't want either.


Oh you mean similar to your threads you often post which are meant to make those with more patience & who are tired of the constant negativity look bad? :confused:

Kettle this is the Pot, your BLACK!!!!!!!!

[Dustin00whoop]

Yeah, Pum...pretty freaking typical. You have 2 choices one or the other. No other choices because if there were we'd all choose

D) A coach that never loses a game.

Some people are such idiots.

[Loftin]

Way to answer the question with one of the choices given..... typical.....

Way to underestimate Aggie Football and what it could and should be...typical...

[Superaggie79]

Give answers that are more logical.... typical

[Man Named Don]

I'd rather win all the games and get a crystal football.

[Pumchavas28]

Give answers that are more logical.... typical


Your threads never do that... why should this one....

[Pumchavas28]

Way to underestimate Aggie Football and what it could and should be...typical...

1) I don't underestimate Aggie Football.... I have picked us to win every week & will continue do so... we could be 0-11 or 11-0 right now & I would still pick us to beat tu.

2) You & several others are already underestimating what it could be.... If you weren't then you wouldn't be calling for the coach's head.

[Dustin00whoop]

Well, lets see....there are only 4 undefeated teams in D1-A. After Saturday, there will be a maximum of only 3 undefeated teams. That means that 116 D1-A teams have either lost to a team that they were supposed to lose to, or they were upset. I'm asking if you'd rather have the coach of the team that gets upset or that loses games that he is expected to lose. My poll covers 97.47% of the teams....thats pretty much covers them all.

[Superaggie79]

so we shouldn't strive for the best?

[DCAggie]

You know, if you don't like the options given, you could just abstain.

[Pumchavas28]

so we shouldn't strive for the best?


Yes, but when you don't get it after 3 years with 1 coach & have only achieved it 1 time in the schools history... there is some need to be a bit realistic about it.


If I remember correctly.... There was a poll on this Site asking where we would wind up as far as Bowl Games goes back before the season started or about the La Tech week.....

The Majority of the people on here predicted Holiday, and now that it seems we are headed there, people are still upset when we met the Majorities expectations for this season.

[Loftin]

so we shouldn't strive for the best?

Hold the rope, you 2%er!:mad: Fran is the man! He almost beat a couple of good teams! By the year 2020, we might win the Big XII and/or beat Texas! By wanting a better coach, you obviously hate our players! Reggie McNeal and Courtney Lewis are the reason our defense and special teams were so bad last year! Dustin has inside sources!

[Pflugerville Ag]

Yes, but when you don't get it after 3 years with 1 coach & have only achieved it 1 time in the schools history... there is some need to be a bit realistic about it.


If I remember correctly.... There was a poll on this Site asking where we would wind up as far as Bowl Games goes back before the season started or about the La Tech week.....

The Majority of the people on here predicted Holiday, and now that it seems we are headed there, people are still upset when we met the Majorities expectations for this season.

Excellent point! :rep:

[Dustin00whoop]

WHOA! You people are worse than my 17 month old when it comes to following directions. The question is....which would you rather have. Answer the freaking question or stay off the thread.

[Dustin00whoop]

What the hell...why is everyone trying to make this about a specific coach? Its a general freaking question. I'm trying to get an idea of what is worse in peoples' minds. Which would you rather have?

[Pumchavas28]

What the hell...why is everyone trying to make this about a specific coach? Its a general freaking question. I'm trying to get an idea of what is worse in peoples' minds. Which would you rather have?


I feel ya... but you know how it goes on here.

Side Note: Loftin is the one that turned it into a thread about Aggie Football... Just saying... ;)

[Dustin00whoop]

I feel ya... but you know how it goes on here.

Side Note: Loftin is the one that turned it into a thread about Aggie Football... Just saying... ;)

Unless you are answering the question, quit posting.

[Superaggie79]

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[Gravy]

A coach who wins the games he is supposed to win, has his team ready to go every week, but losses some games that he is expected to lose.

Or, a coach who may win some of the games he is expected to lose but also fails to have his team focused every week & losses games that he is expected to win.


I would have to go with option 1:

-A coach who wins the games he is supposed to win, has his team ready to go every week, but losses some games that he is expected to lose.

The operative word here is "some" In this scenerio, you win every game you are supposed to win, and only lose SOME games you are expected to lose. So as long as nobody expects you to lose, you will always win.

- Or, a coach who may win some of the games he is expected to lose but also fails to have his team focused every week & losses games that he is expected to win.

In this scenerio, you MAY win SOME games that are expected losses, but you definitely lose games that are expected wins. You would need expected losses just to have a shot at a win.

Yep, definitely option 1

[Dustin00whoop]

Thanks for staying on topic, Gravy. Now that you have clearly pointed out the flaw in the question, let me go edit & see what you think.

[Superaggie79]

^^^^answers Only!

[Gravy]

Dangit Dustin! I was done with this one! Now I have to think again....and it hurrrrrrts

[Dustin00whoop]

Pum pulled back Option 1...all because I edited? Sorry about that, I was changing it up as you were posting.

[Pumchavas28]

Pum pulled back Option 1...all because I edited? Sorry about that, I was changing it up as you were posting.


Pretty much... must think about it some more now... ;)

[nite angel]

1.) A coach who wins the games he is supposed to win, has his team ready to go every week, but losses some games that he is expected to lose.

in year 4 he better be beating some of those teams he's supposed to lose to with the resources and talent pool at hand

[Dustin00whoop]

YOU...get in the corner until you learn to follow directions. This isn't about anyone specific. Its about what you would want in general.

[SHAG69]

C. Any coach but Fran.

[Dustin00whoop]

You all suck & are not capable of following directions. For that I sentence you all, except Gravy, to death by firing squad.

[Aggie91]

I agree with Gravy. I came to the same solution. I prefer a coach who wins the game he is supposed to win--but I only take this option cause the other one is worse--however there are more and better options than those presented.

The trap here is that if he only wins the ones he is supposed to and wins some of the ones he is expected to lose (mind you not all of them but only some), he will never be one of the coaches who wins it all. He most likely will be the coach who is always in the hunt, but never finishes the job to win a championship whether conference or national. That usually means he's a good coach who's team always competes at the higher level, but that's about it.

[Dustin00whoop]

I agree with Gravy. I came to the same solution. I prefer a coach who wins the game he is supposed to win--but I only take this option cause the other one is worse--however there are more and better options than those presented.

The trap here is that if he only wins the ones he is supposed to and wins some of the ones he is expected to lose (mind you not all of them but only some), he will never be one of the coaches who wins it all. He most likely will be the coach who is always in the hunt, but never finishes the job to win a championship whether conference or national. That usually means he's a good coach who's team always competes at the higher level, but that's about it.

Well, yeah, but, there are only a handful of coaches that have "won it all." I'm not saying that certain schools or coaches aren't capable of winning it all, just that only one out of 119 coaches will win it each year & here lately, that coach has won more than just one. That being said, the chances of having a coach capable of "winning it all" aren't the highest. However, if a coach puts together a good enough team, then he could "win it all" in option 1 because he would be expected to win all of his games.

So according to the two of y'alls answers, you would rather have a coach that meets expectations & competes than one who loses some games that he shouldn't.

[Aggie91]

If that's the only two option available, yes. Fortunately, those AREN'T the only two options. :D

[techaggie]

1.) A coach who wins the games he is supposed to win, has his team ready to go every week, but losses some games that he is expected to lose.

2.) Or, a coach who may win some of the games he is expected to lose but also fails to have his team focused every week & losses some games that he is expected to win.


Of the options presented, I'll go with #1 for the reasons Gravy mentions. Win the games you should win, and win at least some of the games you're not expected to win. Fran's pretty much got the first half down. But can he get over that second hurdle?

[The Massacre]

i want option 1.)

[Dustin00whoop]

Of the options presented, I'll go with #1 for the reasons Gravy mentions. Win the games you should win, and win at least some of the games you're not expected to win. Fran's pretty much got the first half down. But can he get over that second hurdle?

Well, no one was speaking about a specific coach, but it you would like to, then Fran won a minimum 2 games he was supposed to lose this year. He was an underdog against both Mizzu & OSU for sure. I'm sure what the line ended up being for the KU game.

[AggieRed03]

To quote a friend who is an ol' ag....

"as long as we beat the hell outta tu, it's a winning season!"

That's not to say that a crystal football trophy wouldn't be wonderful to have....

[90AG]

Then don't have such extremes in answers.. They're designed to make people like me look bad. I don't want either.

you dont need Pum's help in this area....

[GSZ94]

I'll take option #1 as well. Any ideas of who would fit this mold and are they available?

[Gravy]

:gig:

[AustinAG07]

I think I would take option 1 as well. I think we have had both of those types of seasons under fran. Two years ago we weren't supposed to beat a ranked Clemson team or an undefeated OSU, but nobody dreamed we would lose to Baylor either. That hurt bad.

This year we have beat the teams we should have beat and lost to some teams that people didn't think we would beat. Personally, I think this year has been a better year for us than two years ago. JMO

[GregH]

C) a coach that builds a program to where you are expected to win more than half of your conference games.


I'll take C. We have A & B far too long.

[Dustin00whoop]

I'll take C. We have A & B far too long.

YOU...ban yourself for 3 hours until you learn to follow directions!